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Old January 7th, 2013, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default $70 plan to lose 5GB soft cap!

They are saying that the current plan will be replaced by a truly unlimited 4G experience on the 9th. If that's true, I'll be ecstatic!

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mobiles-unlimited-data-plan-coming-soon-to-monthly4g/

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Old January 7th, 2013, 09:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That seems like a really good move for T-Mobile. The $70 plan was just too expensive for only giving 5 GB of 3G/4G data, particularly when compared to Straight Talk or other MVNOs. Unlimited data would seemingly make the plan worth the $70.
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That seems like a really good move for T-Mobile. The $70 plan was just too expensive for only giving 5 GB of 3G/4G data, particularly when compared to Straight Talk or other MVNOs.

And compared to my $30 5gb plan. Of course, that's only 100 minutes too.
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That seems like a really good move for T-Mobile. The $70 plan was just too expensive for only giving 5 GB of 3G/4G data, particularly when compared to Straight Talk or other MVNOs. Unlimited data would seemingly make the plan worth the $70.
Indeed, this would make it a truly unlimited everything (minus tethering) plan for 70 dollars. Still a little on the expensive side (would probably still go for the $30 dollar 5gb plan), but much better that what the competition. I think Verizon prepaid is 80 dollars for unlimited talk/text and only 1gb of data on a very small selection of phones. They might only be 3g phones which is terrible.
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I like the $30 for 5GB which is alot but the 100 minute thing is a challenge. If at work, then you can always use the company phone.
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Do you all notice why AT&T is never the leader in pricing? They are not humble.

Yet people still use this company for all the wireless.

Verizon has the best LTE deployment but I dont like CDMA anymore.
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Do you all notice why AT&T is never the leader in pricing? They are not humble.

Yet people still use this company for all the wireless.

Verizon has the best LTE deployment but I dont like CDMA anymore.
Agreed. I can't wait to leave Verizon and their control freak nature.
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Agreed. I can't wait to leave Verizon and their control freak nature.
thats why prepaid is so good if you use it for a month and the service sucks you can say screw you im going somewhere else
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thats why prepaid is so good if you use it for a month and the service sucks you can say screw you im going somewhere else
Having prepaid means you are variable too.

For example, some months you need more/less data vs phone calls.

The only thing left is that you have to buy your own phone. Thats easy. Buy from ebay.
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Having prepaid means you are variable too.

For example, some months you need more/less data vs phone calls.

The only thing left is that you have to buy your own phone. Thats easy. Buy from ebay.
on my $30 plan i always keep an extra 5-10 bux in the account in case i need more minutes at 10 cents a minute after the 100 its more than enough for me
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I like the $30 for 5GB which is alot but the 100 minute thing is a challenge. If at work, then you can always use the company phone.
Unless you are on the phone all day, it's not much of a challenge. I use GrooveIP over Wifi when I can and I haven't even touched my 100 minutes.Also, my T-mobile data signal is strong, I can usually make phone calls over it.

Of course, this assumes you have a wifi connection at work or home. If you don't, then it's a challenge
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Unless you are on the phone all day, it's not much of a challenge. I use GrooveIP over Wifi when I can and I haven't even touched my 100 minutes.Also, my T-mobile data signal is strong, I can usually make phone calls over it.

Of course, this assumes you have a wifi connection at work or home. If you don't, then it's a challenge
I might want to try that for a month and see. Or just go to a McD or B&N to make free call.

I do have good Wifi speed at home.

But it would not be a good thing to do VOIP when you have a job interview.
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I might want to try that for a month and see. Or just go to a McD or B&N to make free call.

I do have good Wifi speed at home.

But it would not be a good thing to do VOIP when you have a job interview.
McD has good wifi. I take advantage as much as possible as they have 69 cent coffee.

I would not do a VOIP call during an interview. I would use my minutes for that. Luckily, I'm not looking for a job right now.
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Today is supposedly the day that the plan changes.

I'd originally wanted the $30 Wal-Mart plan but they told me I couldn't put insurance on my phone since it wasn't a Wal-mart exclusive phone. Honestly, the Note II was pretty pricey and it's quite large so easily dropped. So I'd found insurance to be worth being on the $70 plan for.

Now let's see if they really give unlimited, I'll be using this phone even more. I'll make good use of that seventy bucks.....

Edit: Just went to the website, it doesn't say anything about the 5GB cap anymore on the $70 plan.
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That seems like a really good move for T-Mobile. The $70 plan was just too expensive for only giving 5 GB of 3G/4G data, particularly when compared to Straight Talk or other MVNOs. Unlimited data would seemingly make the plan worth the $70.
Would like to point out straight talk has an ambiguous throttle of 2GB along with other restrictions to their so called unlimited data plan.
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Would like to point out straight talk has an ambiguous throttle of 2GB along with other restrictions to their so called unlimited data plan.
While this is true for Straight Talk using AT&T SIMs, what I've seen from Straight Talk users on the T-Mobile network is that they get 4 GB before being restricted.
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You pay $70 for 1 month I pay $70 for 2 months.. and have $10 left over for food
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You pay $70 for 1 month I pay $70 for 2 months.. and have $10 left over for food
I don't mind now that I'm not being throttled. I could use two months worth of service... In half a month. I'm happy that I can leave all my dohickies and gadgets running all day and night. Hahaha. ^.^

I went from 2.5GB to like 4.8GB after my data counter for T-Mobile stopped counting. LOL
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I think this is the perfect move for T-mobile. A truly unlimited 4G, plus unlimited minutes and texting will basically be the best prepaid plan available - at least the one with the best value for those who use a substantial amount of minutes, messaging and data.

That said I'm still going to stick with their $30 a month, 5 gb plan. I have a lot of wifi access and hardly need all that data. And not only can I use VoIP calling, I am used to it to the degree that I prefer it. VoIP calling allows me surf the Internet on my phone while I'm on a call; using the actual phone function does not.
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Damn, you've been streaming video from mars to your phone? I've seen data rise like nothing when watching vids and especially streaming music, my payment is due on the 11th(Friday) and I've only used 375mb of data...I wanna get a nexus 7 or chromebook for media use, so I can keep away from using the phone like a computer... Actually wanna get a raspberry pi to learn software/programming but my knowledge on computer "talk" has me going nuts, like to get into making ROMs/kernals/theming/rooting for android devices...
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Damn, you've been streaming video from mars to your phone? I've seen data rise like nothing when watching vids and especially streaming music, my payment is due on the 11th(Friday) and I've only used 375mb of data...I wanna get a nexus 7 or chromebook for media use, so I can keep away from using the phone like a computer... Actually wanna get a raspberry pi to learn software/programming but my knowledge on computer "talk" has me going nuts, like to get into making ROMs/kernals/theming/rooting for android devices...
I'd just started using all the apps I have that are data hogs, downloading music, and streaming. I don't actually use that much data but I was testing this new "Non-throttled" plan. Sure enough, even though it still shows me on the old plan, I'm past 5GB now and still normal.

The lady at T-Mobile said all the plans were automatically updated on their system. It just hasn't updated via my account just yet.
My data counter stopped showing me a blue circle around 3AM on the 9th. I'm guessing that's when they did the upgrade for us!

Yes, I'd got up constantly through the night because I was excited for some reason. Haha.

Good luck on making ROM's and other awesome geeky stuff. If you make one for the Note II, I might just try it! ^^.
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I'd just started using all the apps I have that are data hogs, downloading music, and streaming. I don't actually use that much data but I was testing this new "Non-throttled" plan. Sure enough, even though it still shows me on the old plan, I'm past 5GB now and still normal.

The lady at T-Mobile said all the plans were automatically updated on their system. It just hasn't updated via my account just yet.
My data counter stopped showing me a blue circle around 3AM on the 9th. I'm guessing that's when they did the upgrade for us!

Yes, I'd got up constantly through the night because I was excited for some reason. Haha.

Good luck on making ROM's and other awesome geeky stuff. If you make one for the Note II, I might just try it! ^^.
Haha when did you switch to T-Mobile? I haven't been around these parts in quite some time.
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I have Vonage as my house phone so I downloaded Vonage Extensions and that's been okay.

Groove IP works better with Wi-Fi connections and Talkatone works better with 3G connections, based on the codecs they use.

For a limited time (I heard it's running through all of 2013), that the Vonage app (not the extensions app), will give you 3,000 minutes a month to call anywhere in the US, Canada and Puerto Rico I think. See how that works for you.
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I have Vonage as my house phone so I downloaded Vonage Extensions and that's been okay.

Groove IP works better with Wi-Fi connections and Talkatone works better with 3G connections, based on the codecs they use.

For a limited time (I heard it's running through all of 2013), that the Vonage app (not the extensions app), will give you 3,000 minutes a month to call anywhere in the US, Canada and Puerto Rico I think. See how that works for you.
Have you try calling your own phone to hear your voice mail using one of this app? It didnt work for me on Vonage app.
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Have you try calling your own phone to hear your voice mail using one of this app? It didnt work for me on Vonage app.
I've only used it to call my wife, she said it was pretty clear.
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I still have Boost Mobile too. Just really wanted the Note II. ^.^
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I still have Boost Mobile too. Just really wanted the Note II. ^.^
Ahh. I dropped the Evo for a Nexus 4 hahah. I still use it as a Wi-Fi device though.
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Since the Unlimited data on the Postpaid value plan is also the same price at $69.99 I wonder what T-Mobile will do to differentiate these plans and give people a reason to choose the contracted value plan over prepaid. I'm guessing they will restrict their upcoming LTE network to only their postpaid subscribers.
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The difference is going to be with a contracted value plan you'll be able to get a new phone for the $20 extra a month and with the pre-paid you still have to pay outright for a new phone.

Remember T-Mobile is trying to be unique from the other big carriers. So where as the others like ATT and Verizon prepaid options are extremely limiting T-Mobile is trying to offer the same access as their contracted plans just with the caveat of if you want a new phone you have to pay outright for it.
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Probably, considering Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint don't allow pre-paid users onto their LTE networks at this point in time.
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Probably, considering Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint don't allow pre-paid users onto their LTE networks at this point in time.
That isn't really a fair comparison. Neither AT&T nor Verizon are competitive for prepaid, and Sprint has just had LTE a few months and still only in limited (12?) cities. I'm not sure why the MVNO's on Verizon's and AT&T's networks aren't allowing LTE, if they are too cheap to buy the access or that Verizon/AT&T don't want to sell it. Additionally, the rumor is that Sprint (through Boost and Virgin Mobile) will be allowing LTE in the next couple of months and MetroPCS already allows their prepaid users to use LTE.

I think T-Mobile will allow Monthly users to use LTE. The biggest limited factor, in the short term, will likely be that most users won't have phones that support LTE, as well as the limited availability of LTE for the next year. Also, as others have said, the huge advantage with the Value Plan is that people can buy a phone with a no interest loan, rather than having to buy it outright.
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That isn't really a fair comparison. Neither AT&T nor Verizon are competitive for prepaid, and Sprint has just had LTE a few months and still only in limited (12?) cities. I'm not sure why the MVNO's on Verizon's and AT&T's networks aren't allowing LTE, if they are too cheap to buy the access or that Verizon/AT&T don't want to sell it. Additionally, the rumor is that Sprint (through Boost and Virgin Mobile) will be allowing LTE in the next couple of months and MetroPCS already allows their prepaid users to use LTE.

I think T-Mobile will allow Monthly users to use LTE. The biggest limited factor, in the short term, will likely be that most users won't have phones that support LTE, as well as the limited availability of LTE for the next year. Also, as others have said, the huge advantage with the Value Plan is that people can buy a phone with a no interest loan, rather than having to buy it outright.
By March Boost Mobile will have LTE. At least that's the word from our Regional Rep.

Virgin Mobile will get it shortly after. Though they may decide to give it to them first since Virgin Mobile already flopped on the WiMAX introduction.

I think that T-Mobile will likely give LTE to their prepaid but it's a question on pricing. It's highly unlikely it'll be unlimited considering they've made the true unlimited move with their HSPA+. That's what I think anyways.
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By March Boost Mobile will have LTE. At least that's the word from our Regional Rep.

Virgin Mobile will get it shortly after. Though they may decide to give it to them first since Virgin Mobile already flopped on the WiMAX introduction.

I think that T-Mobile will likely give LTE to their prepaid but it's a question on pricing. It's highly unlikely it'll be unlimited considering they've made the true unlimited move with their HSPA+. That's what I think anyways.
That's good news. Probably won't help me here because Sprint doesn't have LTE where I live, and probably won't for a while. Rochester was a launch LTE city for Verizon and it took AT&T well over a year after launch to bring it here. I don't imagine T-Mobile will bring it here any time soon either.
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If 4G can do 18 mbps download(which I have seen), then why would u want to care about LTE?
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Since the Unlimited data on the Postpaid value plan is also the same price at $69.99 I wonder what T-Mobile will do to differentiate these plans and give people a reason to choose the contracted value plan over prepaid. I'm guessing they will restrict their upcoming LTE network to only their postpaid subscribers.
T-Mobile has never discriminated against their prepaid plans in terms of network capacity, and I doubt they are about to begin now.

What will differentiate their contract plans from their prepaid plans will be the same things that thus far have:
  • Prepaid users cannot choose a different number to forward for voicemail (they can only deactivate this feature).
  • Prepaid users do not have roaming data access.
Remember that T-mobile's prepaid business has been growing while its postpaid model has seen contraction in its consumer base. Prepaid users, while not bound by a contract, present no risk of running up a bill and then not paying it, which contract users may do. They realize this is where the market is going eventually, and that they have a head start. They want to keep that head start.
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Does T-Mobile pre-paid get to use the roaming agreements with other providers? If not that's another differentiator from post-paid.

Edit: yfan beat me to the punch on the roaming angle.
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Does T-Mobile pre-paid get to use the roaming agreements with other providers? If not that's another differentiator from post-paid.

Edit: yfan beat me to the punch on the roaming angle.
They can partially, T-Mobile prepaid does offer voice roaming but you do not get data roaming; so that is another difference (as yfan mentioned).

As yfan also mentioned, I also think T-Mobile will allow prepaid users LTE. I think they keep true unlimited on the $70 plan since Sprint offers unlimited. I don't believe, if T-Mobile were going to not allow unlimited LTE, that they would have introduced it to the $70 plan just a matter of months before the LTE rollout.
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There will be many many people that got turn off by buying a smart phone. It ant cheap.
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If 4G can do 18 mbps download(which I have seen), then why would u want to care about LTE?
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Did you know T-mobile sold their towers to raise cash to deploy LTE?

Why upgrade to LTE when 4G is good? I dont get it.
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Did you know T-mobile sold their towers to raise cash to deploy LTE?

Why upgrade to LTE when 4G is good? I dont get it.
Because LTE is faster, particularly the newer LTE that T-Mobile is deploying. The other advantage is much better upload speeds, HSPA+ upload speeds are little faster than 3G speeds.
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I am just curious it cause alot of money to upgrade from 4G to LTE. Every phone company are moving up on this in phase n can take 2-3 yrs.

So what happen if there is another new technology better than LTE? Another wait of 2-3 yrs and special phone to upgrade?
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So Chong T-Mobile didn't sell their towers they leased them out for 28 years with an option to buy them at the end of 28 years for $2.4 Billion. A practice which other carriers do as well.

There are several reasons for going to LTE Advanced. #1 an extremely high data throughput capability with one demonstration showing 5Gbit/s which means significant future proofing.
#2 By going to LTE it opens a wider range of handsets to be able to hop on their network and also makes phone costs for T-Mobile go down as they'll be in line with other carriers.
#3 It takes advantage of the spectrum they acquired from AT&T and Verizon and will take advantage of MetroPCS's already in place LTE service.

Will a better technology come out in a few years? Probably, though will it be so good that all the US carriers will switch to it? I doubt it unless it can get around not having enough spectrum to give terrific speeds. Remember ALL the major carriers are investing heavily in this technology so they won't be quick to change it.
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Why its called LTE, LTE= Long Term Evolution
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