If AT&T Do What Verizon Is About To Do: I WOULD DROP THEM!
I just saw a news report this morning that VERIZON is planning to install the technology in their DVRs that R E C O R D everything said in your homes....".for advertisement purposes".
According to the report, VERIZON will impose this "new feature" on their customers whether they like it or not. They "claim" the data they collect from your voice conversations, accent, discussions, watching on tv sounds , etc.....(better watch them "nooners").... and sell this info to agencies that will then, force ads upon you according to your "tastes".
THERE'S ONE CALL I WOUDN'T MAKE:
Thats what those who got a little "somethn'-someth'n" on the side should be thinking about. Yup, if this thing passes, and "if" you have an option to opt-out, you dont know if "others" have declined and have one of these listening devices in their home. So, better watch out for them "Booty Calls". Thats one number that might come back and bite you in yours.
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They can put it in all day long, but they can't just turn it on arbitrarily. And they can't make it a condition of their service either. It would violate privacy and wiretapping statutes, to name a few.
There's a big difference between applying for a patent and forcing this technology into your home. Frankly, I don't see any possible way that this could be put into anyone home involuntarily without it blowing up in the face of the company doing it. It would be a marketing disaster for Verizon, if not corporate suicide.
It would be a marketing disaster for Verizon, if not corporate suicide.
Couldn't of said it better myself, pretty sure they wouldn't try and do this, i mean let alone pretty sure it violates some issues with privacy and wiretapping like Luna said too.
True, they couldnt or shouldnt but my tin hat says they collect my info for free then turn around and sell my info so to have more ads pushed my way. The only only ones who benefit monetarily from our privacy willnbe VERIZON and ad agencies. Their pockets phat enough from our nickled and dimed services. Why not pay for them to "listen in".
I am not ok with any of it. We need an "app" for that and block it
But, will see how it goes. Verizon have listened (not in the abovr content) to their customers amd declined some changes theyve triex to amend into customef contracts. AT&T could care less what a customer thinks and would do it if theyve covered their butts from lawsuits.
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All telecom companies must track usage for billing and technological reasons. It's what they do with that information that should be more transparent to the consumer. But, we are being tracked constantly. Our purchases at the grocery store, gas pumps, pharmacy, et al all provide an overall picture of our spending habits for the marketers to use to target us.
I don't have a problem with them knowing that 5.32% of the consumers in a 20 mile radius spend approximately $4.00 when they stop for gas, but I do have a problem with firms other than the merchant knowing *I* bought Allegra 6 times last year.
Yes, thats a known fact as far as purchases, when we use credit card buying habits, web-browsing etc. We are practically conditioned to expect that sort of thing. But how would you feel if I sold you my say, DVR, and I placed a recorder in it so I can listen to everything going on in your house, which recordings were not initiated by some product purchase transaction or otherwise?
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Originally Posted by Rico ANDROID
Yes, thats a known fact as far as purchases, when we use credit card buying habits, web-browsing etc. We are practically conditioned to expect that sort of thing. But how would you feel if I sold you my say, DVR, and I placed a recorder in it so I can listen to everything going on in your house, which recordings were not initiated by some product purchase transaction or otherwise?
If you sold it to me and didn't tell me about it, and I discovered it, I'd call the cops.
If you sold it to me with the condition that it was always on, I'd call my lawyer.
If you said i could buy the DVR with that "feature" off for $100 or with it on for $50, but either way it wouldn't effect it's operation, I'd be okay with that since I had a choice to make that deal.
If you sold it to me and didn't tell me about it, and I discovered it, I'd call the cops.
If you sold it to me with the condition that it was always on, I'd call my lawyer.
If you said i could buy the DVR with that "feature" off for $100 or with it on for $50, but either way it wouldn't effect it's operation, I'd be okay with that since I had a choice to make that deal.
And the point being I would not want such "convenience" in my home with readily-available" technology already built in, even if I decided to "opt out" . Especially with some remegade loyal employee who decides to flip switches anyway, for some hacker to gain access or hear a year or so that verizon has been "fined" for "unknowingly" logging private inhome conversations.
TV's can be made to peer into our home via photoresistors, any mobile can transmit audio even when powered off. Webcams can easily be hacked and used to monitor us as can the mic on our computers. Every phone call and internet data packet is intercepted, recorded and used to profile us. There are new devices which allow law enforcement to peer directly into homes without our knowledge. HARRP can intercept all non-encrypted radio based communications from the Ionosphere at any point on the globe. And for the super paranoid listening devices similar to Orca ears (SOSUS) have been placed all over our oceans. So anyone who thinks a DVR might be worthy of a tin hat let me suggest a tin roof instead.
And all of the above is declassified so just think about all the classified stuff being developed to monitor us in the future.
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TV's can be made to peer into our home via photoresistors, any mobile can transmit audio even when powered off. Webcams can easily be hacked and used to monitor us as can the mic on our computers. Every phone call and internet data packet is intercepted, recorded and used to profile us. There are new devices which allow law enforcement to peer directly into homes without our knowledge. HARRP can intercept all non-encrypted radio based communications from the Ionosphere at any point on the globe. And for the super paranoid listening devices similar to Orca ears (SOSUS) have been placed all over our oceans. So anyone who thinks a DVR might be worthy of a tin hat let me suggest a tin roof instead.
And all of the above is declassified so just think about all the classified stuff being developed to monitor us in the future.
Awwwe Luney now, I see how you gotcho name! LOL but its all true! Theres really no such thing as absolute privacy. "BUT" I do think that a reputable company such as Verizon should not throw its tin hat into the ring and announce its about to record every sneeze, bump-n-grind I make in MY house "in the name of privacy" ..... just aint cool!
I don't have nothing to hide (talking in a very low voice) so i wouldn't mind having this.
RushMush! I didn't realize this was you till now! Tell you what, I aint gonna sell that DVR to you... im sending it your way now! postage paid! Cant wait to see what "Rush's up to on those Android Forum Video Vault offline-moments" ...hehheh
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"BUT" I do think that a reputable company such as Verizon should not throw its tin hat into the ring and announce its about to record every sneeze, bump-n-grind I make in MY house "in the name of privacy" ..... just aint cool!
Wait till you see what your fridge is going to do in the next few years. You wont even need a grocery list because your appliances will monitor what you put in and take out using RFID. They will probably even warn you what not to eat or notify your doctor and health insurance company all about your dietary habbits. Just think when your wife, husband or whoever is able to put a calorie lock on the fridge, oven and microwave. Most of us will probably either be single and using Antique appliances or starving in the future.
We must embrace big brother for the sake of humanity.
Wait till you see what your fridge is going to do in the next few years. You wont even need a grocery list because your appliances will monitor what you put in and take out using RFID. They will probably even warn you what not to eat or notify your doctor and health insurance company all about your dietary habbits. Just think when your wife, husband or whoever is able to put a calorie lock on the fridge, oven and microwave. Most of us will probably either be single and using Antique appliances or starving in the future.
We must embrace big brother for the sake of humanity.
Another Reason Personal Consumer Tracking Not So Good:
Just watched a news report that revealed how the data gathered bybreacking what we look up, watch (or talk about in our homes) , basically the consumer choices results from our (data) generates customed product ads thats ppushed at us "but with higher pricesl.
Kinda makes you stay alert to these "Dynamic Pricing" , recognizing when the price we see is such and , if we really want the product, to look further elsewhere for it.
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If AT&T Do What Verizon Is About To Do: I WOULD DROP THEM!
