Might as well start off the first thread for the TELUS forum!
So, who is waiting for the MILESTONE? Personally I am an avid BlackBerry user on a BES/Exchange server platform, but this may be the device I have been waiting for. Using BlackBerry for about 8 years now, I want a device that brings a new look and feel, but functional for my business needs.
What are your thoughts on it, you folks waiting it out, or are you too excited to see a droid device that you are jumping on the Hero bandwagon?
I jumped on the Hero right away, coming from blackberry for the past 5-7 years myself.
I am not really reading anything that would make me want the milestone over the hero anyways, will wait to see what android 2.0 brings to the Hero, but I like the smaller Hero over the large milestone.
Waiting for it VERY IMPATIENTLY. My Rogers subscription ends in February, so I'm gonna switch to Telus to congratulate them for having the sexiest phone ever. Hopefully they will be selling it by then.
Asmo, maybe you can tell me if Telus allows paid downloads from the Android Market? I know Rogers doesn't, but maybe it's just carrier specific and not just because Canada is ********.
Waiting for it VERY IMPATIENTLY. My Rogers subscription ends in February, so I'm gonna switch to Telus to congratulate them for having the sexiest phone ever. Hopefully they will be selling it by then.
Asmo, maybe you can tell me if Telus allows paid downloads from the Android Market? I know Rogers doesn't, but maybe it's just carrier specific and not just because Canada is ********.
Nope, no paid apps yet, it is a Canada thing unfortunately. But the free apps are very good, and paid apps will come eventually.
Joh, spamming the boards with this post isn't gonna make you new friends. You've copy-pasted it, what, 4 times already? Anticipation is good, and I can't wait either, but you're pushing it.
I'm still gonna answer the only intelligible question you asked in that wall of text.
500 mb is enough to surf standard (read: text and images) web pages all month, but not enough to stream music or video. You'll be better off doing your heavy downloading over wi-fi. Try downloading a bandwidth meter for your PC and use it for a few days so you can get an idea of how heavy your web browsing is. Look at the file sizes of the music, movies, games, etc. that you downloaded on your computer, and you'll quickly get a grasp of just what 500mb is.
For what it's worth, Rogers states on their website that over 80% of their members' monthly data usage falls under 500mb each. But that's your average Joe. I'm pretty sure that when I get the Milestone I'll need the 1gb plan from Telus, or need to rely a lot on wifi hotspots.
P.S. Are you from Quebec?
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I am also waiting for the Milestone. Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard if the Eris coming north? Also, is it just me or are the "plans" for smartphones/BB's starting to get really restrictive/constrictive? I just feel like there's no winning with any of those plans they have now.
Also, those US Voice/Data "30 day passes", is that really all that's available for roaming? They seem bleh at best. At one point I was considering signing up with Verizon because from what I've read it seems they have a more viable plan for roaming in Canada (Nationwide plus Canada).
The eris is a cosmetic variation on the CDMA hero. The GSM hero is available on Telus, like, right now. Don't tell me you don't like the chin I couldn't care less; all new devices you're gonna see in Canada from now on are gonna be GSM anyway so get used to it.
I was confused at your reply at first, but I see where I went wrong.
By "plans" I did not mean the roadmap for Telus' device or network deployment, I meant the actual "PLANS" we get for the phones (Telus' terminology). IE: Their new thing is the Clear Choice Plans for Individuals/Sharing (Blackberry flavour as well).
Regardless of any chin, I'm awaiting the Milestone so my opinion of the Hero's cosmetic appearance is moot. My friend, on the other hand, won't be too happy with this news about the Eris.
Anyone have any feedback/tips for US roaming with Telus? I feel as though I'm gonna get juiced with those US Voice/Data 30 Day pass things...
Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard if the Eris coming north?
That's what I was answering to.
Sorry if I sounded rude, having a really bad week. To make up for that, I'm gonna give my opinion on your actual question :P
Plan prices in Canada aren't too bad IMO. It's just that they come with ridiculous contracts and data caps. I don't mind paying 50 bucks a month for voice and data, but 500 mb? come on. I don't really mind data caps, maybe it's because I'm used to them here in Canada, but I use like ONE GB A DAY on my desktop, and I'm scared to see how I'm gonna use on a device that's always in my pocket. And it looks like the trend here is to have the subsidized phones at the same price as what the US would get for a 2-year contract, but here it's 3 years for that same price. Blame the CRTC and the Rogers-Telus-Bell oligopoly.
If you plan on roaming in the US, you're mega-screwed though. I wouldn't touch my browser unless I was 100% certain I was in at least 3 wifi hotspots at the same time. 3$ per megabyte? are you serious Telus? what is this, the 90's?
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@kblack: you're very rude and you think you're very intelligent but you're not! You're trying to make up all your shortcoming by trying to be smart and very rude. I bet you don't even have any friends.Btw,i hope you choke on an Apple, ifanboy!
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I have a Rogers contract/relationship ending soon - and the Milestone (still going to call it "Droid" in my head, though) looks much more promising than the Androids that my carrier advertises.
I will be out at the stores looking at the demo models as soon as they are available.
Tarius, I'm in the same situation here. Rogers contract ending in february. I was happy to see that they were the first to get android phones here in Canada, but they are dropping the ball on the new generation. I'm not a fan of any carrier, but I'm a fan of android and good hardware, so Telus here I come.
Joh, I wrote an answer for you but just deleted it because I have a policy about feeding the troll.
Sorry if I sounded rude, having a really bad week. To make up for that, I'm gonna give my opinion on your actual question :P
Plan prices in Canada aren't too bad IMO. It's just that they come with ridiculous contracts and data caps. I don't mind paying 50 bucks a month for voice and data, but 500 mb? come on. I don't really mind data caps, maybe it's because I'm used to them here in Canada, but I use like ONE GB A DAY on my desktop, and I'm scared to see how I'm gonna use on a device that's always in my pocket. And it looks like the trend here is to have the subsidized phones at the same price as what the US would get for a 2-year contract, but here it's 3 years for that same price. Blame the CRTC and the Rogers-Telus-Bell oligopoly.
If you plan on roaming in the US, you're mega-screwed though. I wouldn't touch my browser unless I was 100% certain I was in at least 3 wifi hotspots at the same time. 3$ per megabyte? are you serious Telus? what is this, the 90's?
Surprisngly I've only managed 700mbs this month and that is with tethering TRYING to rack up megabytes lmao. Also its like 20 us dollars a megabyte to roam in canada. Iits rediculous carriers need to come to better agreements since the countrys are so close and traveling anywhere in canada to me is like going anywhere in the us.
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It can't be too far off now. It's been released in Brazil on networks that run 3G/HSPA on 850 mhz. My guess is we'll see it early January
Yeah but they use 2100 and 850 umts.
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any idea as to how much it will cost unlocked? i want to get it so i can use it with AT&T in the US since they both run on the same 3G band
Well considering the iPhone 3G S 16GB is for sale with no contract for $699.00 (NOT unlocked), I think it would be somewhere around there. But I'm guessing you would be able to get it unlocked from some place.
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Well I was thinking about getting a Hero, but I'm holding out until I can get a chance to try the Milestone out in person. So lets hope the rumor of Feb 18 release is accurate, so far all things are pointing to it being.
The first one to unlock it would be nice to inform us if it worked, where you got the code, and what provider SIM (rogers, fido, bell) you're using with it now
Went to try to track down one in person, none of the Telus stores, dealers or Futureshop/BestBuy have it in yet (at least in NW Calgary). Bestbuy figures their preorders will be in tomorrow, FS had no idea. The telus mobility store at Market Mall figures their order should be in around noon tomorrow, though they only brought in 5 initially.
From what it sounded like the dealers were given the heads up that the release was supposed to be tomorrow on the weekend, and as such they weren't able to place their orders from Telus until this morning.
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Went to try to track down one in person, none of the Telus stores, dealers or Futureshop/BestBuy have it in yet (at least in NW Calgary). Bestbuy figures their preorders will be in tomorrow, FS had no idea. The telus mobility store at Market Mall figures their order should be in around noon tomorrow, though they only brought in 5 initially.
From what it sounded like the dealers were given the heads up that the release was supposed to be tomorrow on the weekend, and as such they weren't able to place their orders from Telus until this morning.
It is the same here in Ontario. Telus stores said maybe tomorrow, Futureshop thought i was talking about a mouse, and bestbuy says its not out till the 18th and they will have there shipment a few days after that
Yep. On the upside though the one Telus dealer I was at did have the mock phone in their display cases, looks as good in person as the video reviews looked.
Stopped by the store I'm getting mine from when it comes in to see what accessories, cases, etc, they'll have and good news on that front. They have the media docks already in store, and theres a half dozen covers, one leather pouch and a one of the 'ruggedized' covers all available (at least its in their computer system). Plus Telus is giving away a free car mount, you just need to go to the website once you have your milestone and fill in the form.
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Like the title says Very nice device, it's so unlike my curve I feel like an idiot trying to get things to work but it is very nice all the same. Clearest display I have ever seen and very fast!
I got to play with one at the Telus store in Oakville yesterday. I noticed that it has "Google" on the back, and NO Telus branding, so I guess that makes it a "Google-branded" phone?
I wonder what that means for updates compared to Rogers & HTC, and/or if it means we finally get paid apps in Canada!?
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I got to play with one at the Telus store in Oakville yesterday. I noticed that it has "Google" on the back, and NO Telus branding, so I guess that makes it a "Google-branded" phone?
I wonder what that means for updates compared to Rogers & HTC, and/or if it means we finally get paid apps in Canada!?
Yea this stumped me. Although it says "with google" on the back Motorola Handles the updates. It also has Motorola's motonav on it making it not a google experience phone.
The Milestone is a great phone to have here in Canada, almost as good enough as the iPhone. Homerun Battle 3d is an awesome game to have on the Milestone. Very addicting and fun and that game is also available on the iPhone. Which my buddy who has a Motorola Droid says the game on the Droid/Milestone looks much than the iPhone/iTouch. Wooooo droid rocks.
Yea this stumped me. Although it says "with google" on the back Motorola Handles the updates. It also has Motorola's motonav on it making it not a google experience phone.
The updates may come through Motorola, but if there are no modifications to the ROM then you would be getting the updates as Moto received them from Google.
As for Motonav being installed, Motorola can surely pre-install any apps they want without changing the ROM, thus it's not really a "Motorola" phone, but a "Google" phone with motorola's apps pre-installed.
Compare it to the problems we had with Rogers and the HTC phones. Rogers had HTC customize the actual ROM, which meant that any update to the OS by Google would likewise need to be customized before being given to us. Since this costs them time and money, there is little to no incentive to do it.
If the Milestone's ROM has not been customized, then Motorola can just pass along the OS updates from Google without having to make any changes.
That's also what T-Mobile has done with the HTC phones. The G1 and MyTouch say "With Google" on them, and HTC refers to them as "google-experience" phones. When those US phones were updated to 1.6 (including the 911 bug fix) it was delivered by T-Mobile and HTC, not by Google, though it was a matter of passing along the update from Google. A T-Mobile rep made it clear in their forums that the update was coming from T-Mobile with the help of _HTC_. HTC used this "google-experience" difference as an excuse for not updating the Rogers HTC phones.
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The updates may come through Motorola, but if there are no modifications to the ROM then you would be getting the updates as Moto received them from Google.
As for Motonav being installed, Motorola can surely pre-install any apps they want without changing the ROM, thus it's not really a "Motorola" phone, but a "Google" phone with motorola's apps pre-installed.
Compare it to the problems we had with Rogers and the HTC phones. Rogers had HTC customize the actual ROM, which meant that any update to the OS by Google would likewise need to be customized before being given to us. Since this costs them time and money, there is little to no incentive to do it.
If the Milestone's ROM has not been customized, then Motorola can just pass along the OS updates from Google without having to make any changes.
That's also what T-Mobile has done with the HTC phones. The G1 and MyTouch say "With Google" on them, and HTC refers to them as "google-experience" phones. When those US phones were updated to 1.6 (including the 911 bug fix) it was delivered by T-Mobile and HTC, not by Google, though it was a matter of passing along the update from Google. A T-Mobile rep made it clear in their forums that the update was coming from T-Mobile with the help of _HTC_. HTC used this "google-experience" difference as an excuse for not updating the Rogers HTC phones.
The difference between motorola and htc is htc didn't sign pieces of the rom. So modifications have to be made before the roms are sent out to us
Who's waiting for the MILESTONE?
