A legal question


  1. thequeenscheese

    thequeenscheese Well-Known Member

    Just wo deri g as ive seen other nasty markets offering hacked apps, as android is open source what are the legals on unofficial / hacked/ pirated apps is it really ilegal with android being open source, or is it to the dev to make sure it haas to be registered in some way as LVL or other methods?

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  2. mikedt

    mikedt 你好 Guide

    IANAL but destributing copyrighted proprietary software without the copyright holders express written permission is illegal...end of.

    The Android OS might be open source, but something like Angry Birds is most definitely not free open source software(FOSS).
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  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ~Play Nice~ Moderator

    An open source OS (Android) does not make pirated apps legal or right. There are many places to get legitimate copies of apps sanctioned by the developers such as the Play store, Amazon App Store, GetJar, etc. There are probably many others so ask here if you have any questions.

    There are also many sites that offer pirated versions of the apps. I'll say officially that discussion of these sites is against the rules here. I'll personally say stay away from these as there is nothing but bad news as there is mostly malware and viruses chunked on to the apps, let alone no updates. Also, the devs put a lot of work into their apps and a buck or two (usually) is not a lot to pay.
  4. thequeenscheese

    thequeenscheese Well-Known Member

    I know where to get origionals from, I was just wondering, and as open source is free for anyone to use tinker with got me thinking if the first person to prosecuted for an android based whatever if the fact that it roots are open source code or whatever means it cant upheld ? Or officially its still all open source etc as the dev did not develope or ever own the origional, obv no one on here is goi g to say its right or they agree with it rar rar rar just thought id pose the question, is apples making everything ilegal if it aint apple etc like jailbreaking which got me thinking and also what google stance would be..
  5. RAZRi_Man

    RAZRi_Man Member

    Just because the OS is open source does not mean that applications designed to run on it are.
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  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ~Play Nice~ Moderator

    Android itself is open source with some limitations such as a developer needs to meet certain requirements to include Google Apps (which are not open source). Apps in the Play store however, are not open source. The source code is owned by the individual developers that have created the app. Them publishing them on an open source platform does not make them open source, hackable, or free to distribute.
  7. thequeenscheese

    thequeenscheese Well-Known Member

    Is any of this fact tho or speculation?
  8. Davdi

    Davdi Well-Known Member Contributor

    to clarify: Open source software is generally published under a version of the GPL (GNU Public License, more info at: The GNU General Public License v3.0 - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)
    While Linux and Android are Open source (this means that the source code is available for anyone woth the relevant shills to ownload and modify, provided all such modifications remain open source, and upstream contributors are credited for their work.

    Most Apps however, are definitely not open source and copyright remains with the creators. Just because Linux, Android or any other OS is FOSS (Free, open source software) does not mean that all Apps running on it are. While it is legal (and encouraged) to redistribute Open source software, it is most definitely not legal to redistribute copyrighted Apps/music/boks etc.
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  9. Xyro

    Xyro 4 8 15 16 23 42 Moderator

    It is fact. Unless the developer specifically states otherwise on their website/elsewhere, you can be safe in the knowledge that their app is proprietary code and copyrighted like you would expect of most software.
  10. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    Everything stated is fact.

    The only thing that's open source is Google operating system(aosp) and the Linux kernel.


    Applications and many other pieces of software (such as sense or touchwoz overlays) are closed source and property of the company or person that makes them.

    Distributing them without consent is illegal

    No speculation, fact
  11. SiempreTuna

    SiempreTuna Well-Known Member

    There are some (e.g. Apple, Microsoft, Oracle) who claim bits of Android aren't - or at least, shouldn't be - open source and are spending millions suing to prove it :)
  12. thequeenscheese

    thequeenscheese Well-Known Member

    Ok I take you guys word for it , but why are so many markets allowed to opperate still in this case?
  13. Xyro

    Xyro 4 8 15 16 23 42 Moderator

    Well, there's the legal markets (Google/Amazon/etc) where devs choose to put their apps.

    Then there's the pirate markets. They aren't "allowed" to run as such, it would be more appropriate to say nobody has managed to get them shut down yet. (And that can and does happen).
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