After Froyo Update EVO doesnt sleep.Support


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  1. Nerve

    Nerve Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I have become accustomed to checking my "Up time" and "Awake time" when checking my battery level. I have noticed that since I updated to 2.2 that the awake time runs continuously and I cannot figure out why. I am guessing that it reset some option when I updated, but I dont know which one. The battery will usually last from 8am until at least midnight, so its not a huge problem but if I can stop it and lower the Awake time and have it last longer I would like to do that. Right now I am at about 70% battery level with 5:54 Up and 4:16 Awake. Has anyone else experienced this or know that the issue might be?

    Thanks in advance
     

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  2. ThatNewAndroidGuy

    ThatNewAndroidGuy Well-Known Member

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    How long was the Evo plugged into the USB?
     
  3. bobr0949

    bobr0949 Well-Known Member

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    If you updated Facebook that is the problem.
    Uninstall FB and the problem will go away.
    Many posts about this problem.
     
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  4. IXIShogunR1

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    if its not facebook it could be another app too
     
  5. synical

    synical Well-Known Member

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    A few things mentioned in various threads..

    restart phone and/or update your prl (menu>settings>system update).
     
  6. Nerve

    Nerve Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I always cut the phone off and charge overnight and cut it on around 8am. I dont usually charge with it on.

    I did just update Facebook and thats about when it started, so I will give that a shot. Thanks for the tip and sorry that I didnt see anything about this issue. I checked the first two or three pages.
     
  7. Barats

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    But if you uninstall Facebook and want it back on your phone, won't you have to install the one with the update, yet causing the problem again?

    I want Facebook on my phone.
     
  8. Flash77

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    Its not facebook. I had the same problem. What I did was turned my phone off, removed the battery, put the battery back in, and turned my phone back on. I had no problems since. Now there is a big difference between awake time and up time.
     
  9. apollyonis

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    Check the GoogleTalk (Talk) from the apps and make sure that it did not reset the default to automatically sign in. Also go to Menu > Settings > Account & sync > and disable News, Stocks and Weather to test whether the phone goes to sleep afterwards. I found that after a hard reset, disabling these plus the GMail contacts, Gmail and Calendar worked in allowing the device to sleep. (Can't confirm that disabling GMail syncing was part of the cause but I turned it off anyway since I do not use it.)
     
  10. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

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    FB is getting a lot of fingers pointed at it right now, a lot of reports of people uninstalling it to get healthy again.

    Also be suspicious of wallpaper apps. Another thing to point out - ThatNewAndroidGuy found that he'd gotten the Engadget app/widget and that's what was hammering his awake time.

    Might as well double check your Google apps while you're at it. Is Talk set to auto-login? Are you counting on that for GMail notices working quickly? Do you have Listen installed, and if so, did you set the option to let it download stuff at it's leisure? Google Maps - is it set to feedback your location? Latitude - is it running and doing those updates without being obvious - like Talk, check its settings.

    How they draw the line between background data off, but still allowing apps to send / receive data escapes me. Why makes sense - like mail. But how and where is that line?

    I'm not sure.

    Also - maybe consider this thread:

    http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-evo-4g/141369-how-fix-froyo.html

    Some have reported restoration and even improvement with battery life.

    Others have varying mileage (I think you're among that set, yes IXIShogunR1? - not 100% sure).
     
  11. apollyonis

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    Just a note that if the device is plugged into the charger, it will always show as awake. This was driving me nuts earlier since I knew it was fixed but nothing would allow it to go to sleep. Finally unplugging it from charging allowed the phone to go to sleep. It's probably documented somewhere, but just to try to save someone else the frustration.
     
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    My awake time is very high compared to time I've actually been using it. Can someone point me to that bug after installing Froyo please?
     
  13. rmmorse81

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    It is definitely Facebook 1.3. I had the same problem. I uninstalled the update and its working fine
     
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    Sigh.

    This is what is infuriating about Android. I'm a big believer in the non-curated, open development world of Android as opposed to the locked-down utopia that is Apple's iOS. However, it's this kind of craziness that hurt adoption and satisfaction of Android.

    Too many people have problems with battery life or uncontrolled data consumption and it's nearly impossible to diagnose every single problem because each user has different applications and each is a potential cause for problems. Furthermore, it's hard to know each user's level of sophistication when it comes to identifying errant apps and properly configuring them -- many people have often asserted that they have turned off certain widgets or disabled gchat from logging in, and then lo-and-behold, they find that is the solution (it doesn't help that some updates appear to reset the functionality of these apps, and do so rather inconsistently).

    The bottom line is that we will never have the same uniformity in experience and satisfaction as the Apple iPhone users because the wide masses of users (and developers) lack the sophistication to deal with the problems of the sheer openness of Android.
     
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    Yeah I have just confirmed on my phone that the Facebook update is indeed keeping it awake. Just go into Applications --> Manage Applications --> Facebook then Uninstall Updates. I rebooted after I did that and then once back up I went into the Facebook App accepted the agreement and logged in. My EVO is now sleeping like a baby.
     
  18. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

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    Much the same can be said in the Win vs. OS X world.

    Apple is first and foremost a hardware company - all Apple software exists solely to promote and move the iron.

    Compared to the large number of headsets and options, the few iPhones in existence are therefore almost the degenerate case in support.

    Couple that with the fact that iOS, while sophisticated in its own right, is less complex than Android while being simultaneously more mature.

    In systems theory, the risk factor is defined as (complexity / maturity). Therefore, an iPhone presents a lower risk factor.

    Further, Apple controls the update process, it's not an aggregate of OS_maker+handset_maker+carrier doing that. So risk occurrence should be expected to be lower.

    HOWEVER - as there's no such thing as a free lunch, there's always a price to pay and in this case, it's in risk mitigation. Ask the many unhappy iPhone 3gs users how happy they are with the latest chicken dance with whatever's gone wrong for them updating to the latest iOS. If you've read or studied anything by Dr. Demming, you'd agree that was a matter of when, not if, for something like that to go south.

    I personally see a number of Android problems as related to the fact that until the system matures quite a bit more, it really does come down to managing it as one would any unix system - and the number one rule there is to define the configuration.

    A lot of people are criticizing my advice as being too heavy handed when most people just have "simple" problems - but it's really quite a brain-dead simple approach:

    1. Preserve what you think you have.
    2. Define the configuration.
    3. Restore what you thought you had.

    As for the other points in my post, it still Android, Walt Mosspuppet was right, and where apps are concerned, it's still the Wild West.

    While I pass no value judgement on social networking, the app problems they present is quite obvious if one steps back and looks at the forest vs. the trees:

    A. There exists a collection of apps that will track you, where you is defined as personal photos, shared tweets, facebook friends you name it. Under the principle of making this easy - they are gaining in automation.

    B. If history has shown us anything on this, going back centuries before computers, it is simply this: whenever tracking is made efficiently proceduralized, the tracking itself will become the focal point for all actions, rather than that to be tracked.

    It's all just that simple.

    You are 100% correct.

    When people start to question the very nature of what they're taking for granted with their apps - that is the day they'll begin to question the apps and what they're doing rather than the OS.

    And that does take a certain sophistication.

    Android is unix. It can and will cause all of the trouble and woes that it's allowed to - that's in its genetic heritage.

    The clean-up steps I propose - they could easily be wrappered into any update installer and the user would be no wiser - but - it would lead to a significant reduction in user troubles.

    I often wonder if the Gingerbread initiatives, where Google would be given control of the entire using experience - is not really the first step in that plan - or simply the first required step when it becomes obvious that that's really, truly and absolutely the only plan that is ever going to work.

    Configuration control.

    Don't leave home without it.
     
  19. Nerve

    Nerve Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I went in and uninstalled the latest Facebook update and it seems to be running as it was before the update.
     
  20. meyerweb

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    The fact that the Apple store is moderated won't prevent these kind of issues. With hundreds of thousands of apps, you end up with the same situation: every user has a different combination of apps. And there's no way Apple can test all those combinations. The fact that Apple allowed an app which stole people's login credentials and made bogus charges against their accounts proves Apple can't guarantee the quality and safety of apps, either.

    The real reason you have fewer conflicts on the iPhone is that it doesn't allow background processing by non-Apple apps. Even iOS4 allows only a very limited sort of multi-tasking. Personally, I'll take the flexibility and power of Android over the locked down, "my way or the highway" approach that Apple forces you into.
     
  21. asaberan

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    Same problem here, except it is not Facebook. I had no problems with battery life whaotsoever pre-froyo. I've done a hard reset, battery pull multiple times, removed every app I installed, turned off live wallpaper, prevented Facebook from updating itself(hell I've pulled the battery and then not even signed in upon reboot). Nothing seems to fix this problem. I can literally watch the battery drain when I could easily have gone a full day without charging.
     
  22. GiftedPlacebo

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    Facebook App got fixed last night, so if you update to the latest version, you shouldn't have a battery drain issue due to Facebook. Other apps, perhaps.
     
  23. GirlGoneGeek

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    Yup, 1.3.1 update fixed it for me. Still think its new UI sucks a bit, but at least the battery is better.
     
  24. brownhornet

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    There are quite a few apps that havent been update to work right with froyo unfortunately...
     
  25. EarlyMon

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    You might experiment with setting Talk to not auto-start and just turn off background data (under Settings -> Accounts & sync) for a little while to see if your battery starts to improve right away.

    Also might want to try the radio+PRL thing mentioned in the the How to fix.. thread.

    Also - make sure you can reliably get to each one of your media files on your SD card. A screwed up directory there can cause no end of grief.

    If you try those things and your battery is draining fast, you've either got an app horribly misconfigured, a rogue app, or a bad battery coming on, in my opinion.
     
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