Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by Crude, May 9, 2010.
"Hooray for the American flag!" Was that the only purpose of this thread?
I am not sure but I keep thinking about Polkadots getting teabagged....
I guess so. I am not sure what the OP was intended for.
But the topic went off about how liberals think the American flag is racist because some student got kicked home because they were wearing American flag T-shirts.
Sadly, the guy dragging liberals into the conversation and insulting liberals never replied to my question as to where did he get the idea liberals hate think the American flag is racist...go figure. Too often no one actually sticks around to discuss the topic. Instead, there's just mud slinging, insults, name calling and that is it...
Perhaps they are channeling Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Bachmann, who remind me of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, but without revelations.
Patriotism. That's all.
I love the American Flag too but what I don't love is how some people wrap themselves in it and use it as a vehicle to condemn those who may disagree with some policy of our government, be that government conservative or liberal.
There is such a thing as blind patriotism.
Great video. Don't see how the argument between liberal/conservatives was relevant though, I know plenty of both that are patriotic.
I genuinely believe you, however I haven't seen and O sticker and an American flag on the same bumper.
Bumper stickers...that's what patriotism is all about!
Wait, I thought the Obama sticker is built into an American flag?
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I guess you'll need to show me, cause I haven't seen a flag in any logo. Red and blue on a white background doesn't constitute a flag imo.
Wow, you wave a flag and.that makes you patriotic. People that wrap themselves in the flag make me sick.
Yeah, for some people that's how they express their love for their country. Don't suppose you saw the tv images from the English coast this week as people marked the 70th anniversary of the Dunkirk evacuation? Lots of Union flags on show, 'cos this little country is rather proud of the way ordinary people stepped up to the plate when disaster loomed.
I guess you must hate Olympic medal ceremonies then?
LOL I was thinking the same thing.
Specifically Usain Bolt:
I have no problem with anyone expressing their patriotism with a flag. I do so myself. It's a simple yet very powerful symbol.
It's one thing to be proud of your country in an Athletic competition but to wave the flag and somehow think that that makes your political beliefs sound is not the case. The people who are condemning our government because they don't like the current policies are condemning the United States of America, for when did this country become separate from it's government.
Most truly patriotic people don't have to wrap themselves in the flag to convince anyone that they are partriotic.
How many of you believe that the wars that we are currently involved in are the right thing. If you do, then why don't you sign up and put your actions where your mouths are. I did my time.
If you served in the military then believe me, you have my respect.
I agree that waving a flag does not make your beliefs fact.
I think that many of our actions overseas are unjustified and were bad decisions. However I disagree that condemning policy is to condemn the United States. I believe that we live in a great country, I want to see this country successful in all its endeavors. I think this is what makes a patriot. You can have love of country and still disagree with some of its policies, at least in my opinion.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
-idk. Some believe that it is from Jefferson however there is evidence to suggest this is not the case.
U.S. Marine Corps '71 to '73. Did not serve in Viet Nam. Would have if they had sent me. While in boot camp at Paris Island, they pulled the last the Marines out. Was the first war where, "First in, Last Out" did not apply.
I did not mean to imply that one could not desent and disagree with the federal government. I was simply pointing out that those wrapped in the flag who use it to establish there patriotism and there politics in many cases, are wrapped in the flag that there government represents.
Obama Biden in '08 Bumper Sticker from Zazzle.com
Firstly, Hoorah and thank you.
Secondly, @everyone: Hypocrisy is rampant. Of course there will be people who claim patriotism through the flag but also attack the nation the flag represents as well.
In any event I will add some fuel to the fire!
Iraq War Veteran Faces Eviction For Hanging American Flag In Apartment Window
I think what is happening with the article above is total bull.
Thankfully the management company has apologized and will now allow the vet to keep his flag. I can't believe things like this even happen. The American flag can't be racist or offensive in our country. If it is, then the offended should leave our country.
BTW, Navy vet here.
Hoorah to you too Fenga!
Never seen that one. Not that it matters Obama is in no way a Patriot.
Btw, what do all the vets think about the Presidents plans for memorial day?
But this wasn't about Obama. You were saying other people who have Obama bumper sticker don't also have the American flag. My link was showing that someone can indeed support Obama and also love the American flag and/or be a patriot. (Under the assumption that having the American flag as a bumper sticker means they love it and/or they are a patriot.)
Sorry, I had moved on and was making reference to more recent posts.
Sure he is a patriot. Why would you question his patriotism? Because he doesn't do things your way?
Oh, and Obama's plans for Memorial Day include a wreath ceremony and remarks at a vets' cemetery in the Chicago metro area.
From the AP:
Obama to honor war dead on Memorial Day
(AP) – 1 hour ago
CHICAGO — President Barack Obama is paying his respects to America's war dead.
The president is scheduled to lay a wreath and deliver remarks Monday at a Memorial Day observance at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery in Elwood, Ill., south of Chicago.