Another web loon bashes Google/Android


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  1. Timaphillips

    Timaphillips Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Boy Genius is obviously drinking some spiked Apple branded cool-aid. While this article has some validity to it, he's taking the minor annoyances of Android and taking them to the extreme. Normally I'd brush off articles like these, but Boy Genius has some pull around the tech blog community.And readers who believe every word of a blog who might have been thinking about adopting Android will most likely think Android is a POS, which is completely untrue. I've noticed some more credit going to Engadget these days, and articles like these are exactly why.

    Google Android Personal Thoughts Boy Genius Report

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    This is an add-on to the Google Nexus One review
     

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  2. ManMythLegend

    ManMythLegend Well-Known Member

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  3. darreno1

    darreno1 Well-Known Member

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    Meh! Just another iPhone fanboy rant. How do those idiots have pull in the tech industry anyway? I'd rather print out that crap and wipe my as* with it.
     
  4. ScottAllyn

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    The guy does actually make a large number of good points in his review an even within his biased follow-up drivel, but jeez... what a tool. Phones with feeling and emotion? Wtf? If I ever hear anybody say that they'd die for their phone... I'm gonna rip it out of their hands and kill them with it. :D
     
  5. choffy21

    choffy21 Well-Known Member

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    It's called an opinion. He's entitled to it and he used his site to voice it.
     
  6. ManMythLegend

    ManMythLegend Well-Known Member

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    No its a review. Big difference.
    This isnt an editorial.

    This is why so many people are upset that print is dying. That kind of anger filled fluff covers up anything valid you have to say. The guy has the kind of traffic and "scoops" that lead other places to quote or get information from him. You have to have some kind of responsibility for how you package information. If that's what passes for a review from a reputable website nowadays consumers looking for fair reviews are ****ed.
     
  7. lekky

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    I would die to protect my Hero, thats why my Hero is still in the perfect condition it was when it came out of hte box 3-4 months down the line.
     
  8. sensesfail99

    sensesfail99 Well-Known Member

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    I agree... apple fanboy... I was reading some other guys review of why the iphone was better than the nexus a week back and it seemed like the a**hole wanted to ride the coat tails of all the other apple products to help prove the Iphone is so much better... my thoughts were "if the Iphone is so much better than why is this guy tryin to use other products to make me believe it? shouldnt he be tryin to sell the iphone and its amazingness instead of the amazingness of the imac? or apples tablet or whatever?"
     
  9. Esquire1

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    Yes, it is. You're the one who posted the article on this forum. You would know. Actually, you should know.

    BG has plenty of good points. I hope Google listens and fixes things. The applications on Android pale in comparison to iPhone apps. I'm glad he mentioned Tweetie 2 because that is a very polished application. Nothing on Android comes close to it. Every Android app I've downloaded has no polish whatsoever.

    The market is a joke. It's poorly organized. Android OSes are too fragmented. iPhone's App Store can afford to be a little less organized. Why? Because everything on there works with every iPhone. This is not the case for Android phones considering the hardware varies. That is Google's problem to solve.

    Copy and paste is horrible.

    The only reason I bought my N1 is because I've grown tired of the iPhone. If I owned a RAZR for years and were new to both iPhone and N1, I would likely go with the iPhone today.
     
  10. BacteriaEP

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    Wow... this guy is insane.

    I love Android. I loved it when the service was at 1.0 and I was using the G1... I love it just as much at 2.1 on my brand new N1. But I will never, ever die for my phone.

    I can't believe this guy is honestly ranting about people's devotion to their phone as if "willing to die" for it was a good thing.

    This idiot (who honestly is so conceited and arrogant as to call himself "Boy Genius") is just ranting about his own love affair with Apple. Allow me to drop a message to him and all other biased tech journa... errr I mean bloggers:

    Hey tech bloggers! We get it... you all have a serious love-crush on Apple. They make shiny gadgets that have lots of swooshes and look pretty. But give it a rest, there's no secret amongst your readers about your bias. The least you could do is not further reinforce those bias' with inane driveling rants like this.
     
  11. Esquire1

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    This post is dribble and makes no substantial contribution to the discussion. This post makes no arguments against BG's complaints. It is a fine example of how not to post.

    Please take more care to contribute properly.
     
  12. BacteriaEP

    BacteriaEP Well-Known Member

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    And who are you to be making statements like this?

    It's obvious that this thread was started to discuss BGR's inane ranting on Android and I shared my thoughts about that rant.

    Perhaps you should get off your high horse and discuss what's happening instead of critiquing other people's posts on a forum. Just a thought...

    Cheers mate.
     
  13. Esquire1

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    I did discuss it. Now you try.
     
  14. BacteriaEP

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    I did as well... forums are for opinions and opinions are fun. Somebody who supposedly goes to Princeton and Yale should know the very basic definition of both a forum and an opinion.

    Anyway, do enjoy the rest of the forum, I'm sure you'll make lot of friends here and be well accepted.
     
  15. choffy21

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    This is the review:
    Google Nexus One Review Boy Genius Report

    This is the article in quesiton:
    Google Android Personal Thoughts Boy Genius Report
     
  16. BacteriaEP

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    Well I did give up my Iphone for Android, but I have to say Im not offended in the least by that article. Thats exactly the sort of thing that needs to be said of this phone/os.
     
  18. anotherfandroid

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    if people keep claiming that every android critic is a "fanboy" , then i have some bad news for you: android will never improve. people like you make voicing one's opinions very difficult.
     
  19. wonderbread

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    I didn't read the whole thing because it's clearly a ranting diatribe of gloom but his statement about vanilla android being a generally "hallow" experience is not uncommon and like he says, Sense UI, is a different story. I think this is why HTC has so many followers lately (my self included). They put some special sauce into Android. But yeah, not a fan of two page long editorials from a rumor blog.
     
  20. darreno1

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    No OS is perfect and Android does have some faults that need to be addressed, like being able to store apps completely on the SD card or play mov files out of the box etc. No one's going to argue that. However what he wrote was just fanboyish drivel and yes while it was the opinion of a well-known reviewer, it doesn't mean it's gospel and therefore can't be challenged. Most of what he wrote about Android aren't issues shared many users and seem to be based on pure emotion, the emotion of someone who feels threatened by another phone / OS.

    I've used an iPhone 3g for a year (played extensively with the 3gs)and can pick apart that OS like no tomorrow. It's definitely not God's gift to man. So when I see fanboys like that douchebag heaping praise on it like it has no faults, it irks me a little.

    No, Android does NOT have to be like the iPhone. If I wanted an POS iPhone, I'd have gotten the 3GS. The last thing Android needs is to be like the iPhone.
     
  21. anotherfandroid

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    i agree 100% with every point that BGR made. it's like he took the words out of my mouth. i have a feeling that a lot of people on this forum are in denial over the shortcomings of android. maybe they are in denial for the same reason why i have a mt3g as opposed to an iphone; i want android to win. i want the underdog to win. i want freedom and customisability to win. i want to walk into a house party and be the maverick who sports an android device as opposed to following the crowds sheepishly by getting an iphone. unfortunately, android, at least so far, is not winning in any category. 1-stock android is ugly and the colors are ugly. 2-nothing in android is 100% polished. everything is missing one thing or the other. 3-too many android updates too soon and too many app updates for too many different phones with different ROMs. 4-system replacement apps are not a valid option because they slow the phone and their colors are not congruent with native android's colors. 5-android as an OS is still designed for the geek, and not the average person. the whole OS is amateurish and seems like it was designed by some anti-establishment super-smart high-school drop out. 6-the app store is a farce. it is deplorable that the best apps on the store are those made by google itself, like maps, sky....etc. the rest have either ugly UI, poor functionality, or the app won't work on certain phones. it is sad. consider an app like RINGDROID! this app is nothing short of amazing in terms of function, but it's ugly! it's just not sleek. same thing for jetflick's: great app, ghastly UI. phonebook......great app, but colors don't match android! timmeriffic is also amazing but again, unimaginative UI. IMHO, the only app that combines UI with functionality is the little humble TIPPER. the other day i spent an hour looking for a decent timer app but ended up with none. i have astopwatch and it's decent but i needed a timer. so i downloaded the one with the best reviews and guess what? the timer does not wake the phone when time is up so what's the point? it's really sad and frankly, i don't know why this is the case; i guess BGR is right: it's not just about coding. it's about designing and having an eye for aesthetics. 7-media player is just too pedestrian, lacking functionality and polish. given its importance, you'd think that google would tackle it before the gallery. oh well, maybe in the next android. for anyone who does not know what BGR is talking about in terms of APPs, go play with your friend's iphone and you'll understand. it is true that the iphone's app store is full of lame apps, but it still has a LARGE NUMBER OF QUALITY APPS! and what's even worse is what BGR mentioned, regarding the better version of the same app being on the iphone. why does our maps app lack the pins that iphone has? call me trivial or childish for caring about pins but why dont we have them? why?
    vexing, it's like android is always second rate, not up to par, rough around the edges and struggling to be understood by the average user. i am downgrading my mt3g to save money and because i am just not happy with android. i am waiting for apple's 4th iphone with great anticipation and make no mistake, if android wins the race, i will be among the first ones to dance to its beats, just not now.

    the last thing i have to say is this: not every iphone user is a "fanboy"; not every web techie who criticizes android is a "fanboy"...perhaps users and techies are favoring the iphone simply because it's a better experience, period.
     
  22. cwrig

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    What makes absolutely no sense to me is the comment that android has no emotion or feeling like the iphone. WHAT? The nazi grid of apps and zero customization on iphone is more human that location aware apps that can modify the look by about any event you can think of on andorid? IN other words, a phone that works the way you want is less "human" that an iphone that only works one specific way? Thats silly.

    The other thing is; the reviewer recognizes that nexus 1 has significantly better phone call ability with the noise cancellation. Compared to an iphone that has trouble even making calls. That point alone puts nexus in a different class than iphone. A class where its actually a good phone.
     
  23. darreno1

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    @Anotherfandroid

    That is exactly what I was talking about - in essence you want Android to be like the iPhone. I say that because that's the benchmark it seems every review is set against including yours. If those are the attributes one desire, then just get a freaking iPhone and be done with it. I'm GLAD Android isn't like the iPhone. All I want from it, is for me to customize it like I see fit, install whatever I want on it and for it to work with most if not all the file formats I may use. Sure it would be nice for it to be a little smoother or maybe to have beautiful looking apps, but that's not a deal breaker although with every version those aspects will be improved.

    I don't need the icons to be bigger, have borders or look like the iPhone's. I don't need Google, Verizon or Motorola locking down the phone, trying to dictate what each user should like (like Apple). That's why I got away from the iPhone to begin with.

    It seems the people that complain the most about the superficial stuff (like the guy in the article and some posters on here) are former or current iPhone users.
     
  24. shizzy1427

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    Haha wow, i love how he starts it off with "is that there’s practically no human emotion with Google when it comes to technology". What is this even supposed to mean? Our Android phones are supposed to have feelings and talk to us, and not function properly if we're mean?( Which i hope no one is!) And who is he to say that no Android phone user would die for their phone, just because he wouldnt die for an Android phone? I most certainly love my Droid and take better care of it than i do my little brother haha. Webloon is right!!
     
  25. Napoleon_PhoneApart

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    Thank you. I've seen this happen in several phone forums. It always starts out this way. Criticism of the "new phone" is attacked in the beginning. Later on, everyone calms down and starts to see the shortcomings and accepting them - this seems to be a common cycle. Folks tend to protect their precious new toys ferociously until some of the shine wears off.
     

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