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A woman should not be allowed to walk around, and definitely not enter a public place, in traditional Islamic wardrobe that covers her from head to toe with only her eyes showing. The reason is because it hides their face and everything else - something criminals try to do! If I, as a white male, walked into a bank dressed like that I'd be tackled and arrested. Where is the equality? It's dismissed so she can have "freedom of religion"
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That was semi on-topic, but all the idiots on this thread got me fired up! :D

There is no dress code for banks.....

And freedom of religion is what this country was founded on.. So don't act like something is changing there.

I can agree with you on the immigrant issue..


However none of this is on topic (as the topic is Anti-Islam propaganda.)
 
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There is no dress code for banks.....

And freedom of religion is what this country was founded on.. So don't act like something is changing there.

I can agree with you on the immigrant issue..


However none of this is on topic (as the topic is Anti-Islam propaganda.)
I'm too much is clearly flaming

Personally, I dont think any thing that covers face should be allowed in banks, shops wahtever
I also think in public hospitals, schools, government buildings, no religious items should be allowed
If you want to wear your burka or christian neck chain set up your own hospital/school and pay for it yourself!
 
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They were well aware of what they were writing, and knew that it wasn't they who were speaking, but God Himself. They knew they had the amazing responsibility to preserve exactly what God told them to write, and they were also acutely aware of the penalty for getting it wrong; death. (OT) The Bible is not a collection of various men's musings. It is God-breathed (Greek: theoptneustos). ( 2 Timothy 3:16) In some cases, (1 Peter 1:3-11) they didn't even understand fully what they were writing.

I hope you mean king david not god. The bible was collected durring King Davids empire. Before that it was just a collection of stories, the ancient jews put it together to make the old testiment/Torah I doubt god had any direct influence, unless he told King David's scribes what stories to put in the book.

Citing passages from the book itself doesnt prove anything. Ofcource you'd write that god told you to write it, otherwise who would put so much faith into it?

I do believe in god, I am just not childish enough to believe everything that MAN put into some book thousands of years ago
 
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There is no dress code for banks.....

That's not true. I was in banking for years and every bank has a policy that customers aren't allowed to wear anything that covers their face. Most even post a sign on Halloween announcing such a rule. Otherwise, robbing banks on Halloween would be easier than taking candy from as many babies as you want for a single 10hr day.
 
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I hope you mean king david not god. The bible was collected durring King Davids empire. Before that it was just a collection of stories, the ancient jews put it together to make the old testiment/Torah I doubt god had any direct influence, unless he told King David's scribes what stories to put in the book.

Citing passages from the book itself doesnt prove anything. Ofcource you'd write that god told you to write it, otherwise who would put so much faith into it?

I do believe in god, I am just not childish enough to believe everything that MAN put into some book thousands of years ago

So in your eyes, I'm childish. That's ok, savoxis. I'm not going to return insult for insult. That would be childish indeed.

Anyway, the New Testament was written long after King David's rule came to an end. The people who wrote it claimed to be eye-witnesses to Christ's resurrection, the central pivot point upon which Christianity stands or falls, and those very same people were later martyred for their beliefs. Their martyrdom is recorded in contemporary extra-biblical literature of the day, some of which was written by non-Christian historians who had no dog in the fight. I can imagine someone perpetuating a fake religion for personal gain, but not to the point of death. Nobody voluntarily dies for what they know to be a lie. When that person is asked to renounce Christ or die, and chooses death, and he is the very person who claimed that he witnessed Christ's resurrection, his choice proves the validity of his claims.

This is much different than choosing martyrdom over a belief of which you have only a second hand knowledge. If I were to be martyred for my belief in Christ and the Bible, this would prove nothing except that I truly believed someone else's testimony. But if the eye-witnesses of Christ's death and resurrection chose martyrdom, that's a whole different ball game.
 
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Its hard to believe that no-one has edited the bible for their own means

Yes, there are a lot of things about Christianity that are hard to believe, that being one of them. It's especially hard to believe when you haven't done the research necessary to come to that conclusion.

Other than translations that cults have written, the Bible we have today is the very same Bible that was written in ancient times. We have over 5600 extant manuscripts to prove it, and in the original Hebrew and Greek, and some translated into Latin. When we compare the two main bodies of evidence, the Nestle-Asland text and the Textus Receptus, it is clear that they agree with the translations that we use today.

Secular scholars don't need nearly that amount of evidence to pronounce an historical document as accurate. For instance, Homer's Iliad enjoys 643 manuscripts as evidence, Aristotle 49, and Plato a mere 7, yet secular historians deem modern copies of their writings to be accurate to the original. Yet the Bible has over 5600, and people still attempt to say that they doubt their accuracy to the original.

If you want a definition of secular bias, you couldn't find a better one.
 
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Judging by some of these reply's this going to go down well with about 50% of people, but anyone who disagrees with this just walk through ANY British town and if anything this is understating the massive problem with immigration. Not just with Muslims but also with eastern Europeans as well. Before now i have driven down a street for miles and not seen anyone of an English descent and passing specialist Muslim shop after shop whether it be for clothing or food. If you are in the states you may not believe this is a true representation but honestly just ask anyone from the UK. We literally aren't even allowed to fly the English flag or union jack without being forced to remove it because of cries of racism from all the immigrants, people have even been threatened with prison!!! Last Christmas at work we put up some x-mas decorations and were told that if we didn't take them down we would be disciplined. I bet i can guess what would happen if you asked a Muslim worker to remove her vail or not to pray because it is offensive to Christians they would get a lawyer and a big fat settlement that's what!!! Don't get me wrong (i recall an earlier post) stating that all religions and country's are different and why are we all being so stupid about this can't we all just get along. Well i understand this and i am not a racist what i am is patriotic and i am sick of all the shit that English and British people are getting ALL THE TIME immigrants in this country have more right than the British and the British way of life is dieing out i have no problem with Muslims Eastern Europeans Africans Iraqis Chinese or anyone else who decides to move to this country as long as they stay were they are! [deleted by mod] The real people to blame tho are the POLITICIANS THAT LET IT HAPPEN!!!

Now que all the abusive reply's and to be honest i don't care. Believe whatever you want but know that everything i just wrote down is the truth. I just want you to try and understand that that video shouldn't be written off as a load of shit. I just hope that i can get one or two Brits to back me up before they are lost in the sea of abusive posts i am no don't about the receive.
 
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...We literally aren't even allowed to fly the English flag or union jack...
Rubbish.
...earlyer... ...countrys... ...diffrent... ...carnt... ...british way of life is dieing...
And along with the British way of life, the Queen's English is taking a beating too! ;):)
...i have no problem with... ...anyone else who decides to move to this country as long as they stay were they are! IN THERE OWN ****ING COUNTRY!!!...
:thinking: You mean you don't mind people thinking about moving to your country, just so long as they don't actually move to your country?!
...but know that every thing i just wrote down is the truth...
Of course it is dear, how about a nice cuppa tea and a lie down now.
 
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Rubbish.

And along with the British way of life, the Queen's English is taking a beating too! ;):)

:thinking: You mean you don't mind people thinking about moving to your country, just so long as they don't actually move to your country?!

Of course it is dear, how about a nice cuppa tea and a lie down now.



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1. I go through a good few papers every week and watch the news when its on and i can say that if you havent seen a story regards not being alowd to fly a english or union jack flag especialy after the resent world cup then you must wounder aroun d with your eyes closed.

2. I have problems with writing as i was diagnosed dyslexic at school. If you don't know what that means it means i probably have a higher IQ than you i just have a hard time with paper work. (i apologias if that sounds arrogant but its true).

3. I mean that if someone asked me if i wanted to remove every country along with there inhabitants other than mine from the face of the earth i would say no. I just wish they would stop moving over here Britain is an island and is already over populated.

4. I would love to know were you live for non of what i sead to be applicable to you.

5. For the record yes i will have lye down as its 1.30 and i have got to be up for work in the morning and as for tea i don't like it mate thanks for the advise anyway. ;)
 
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one of the basic differences between christianity and islam is how the bible and qu'ran tell believers how to treat non-believers. In christianity, god says to make all of the world believers, and if they do not convert don't worry about it because god will judge them when they die someday. In islam, god says to make all of the world believers, and if they do not convert kill them.

In christianity, god says that man does not have the wisdom to judge or be executioner. Those jobs are left to god, and god alone. In islam, god says that man has the ability to do both......which is why extreme punishments are so common in the muslim world.

In regards to the end of the world, in christianity god says to live each day as though it were your last so that when that day comes god will save you. The anti-christ will come regardless of what man does, so be prepared for those hard times. In islam, it is a muslim's responsibility to usher in the islam version of the anti-christ. It is the muslim's job to bring about the end of the world, so that a world under alla can be born. Basically, clean out the trash. With the invention of nuclear weapons and other mass scale weapon technology, they just might try to take it that far.

Another glaring difference is that islam isn't just a religion but a form of government/society as well. This basic fundamental makes it incompatible with our country/government. Christianity (along with most other forms of religion) is a religion and not a form of government which is what makes it (as well as most other religions) compatible with this country which is founded on it's government (read: People) and not a single religion. I'm tolerant of any religion as long as one of it's fundamental properties isn't the death of this country at any cost. It also teaches that there is only one way and those who don't believe are to be given an chance to convert or face death. This also applies to these supposed muslims who "don't practice that way" or whatever they want to say. It teaches lying in the face of your enemy when asked of your faith if it furthers islam. Other religions state that you maintain your faith even in the face of death. The qu'ran teaches that there is no surrender unless it's your own. So surrender works if your loss is eminent. Yet if your enemy surrenders they are to be given no quarter, only the option to convert or die. This is the real qu'ran and those who say they don't do these 'extremist' things are actually kafir (loosely translated to infidel) and in the eyes of islam are to be treated the same as christians and other non-believers. People say it is a religion of peace which is true... So long as the entire world is under the nation of islam. Until then there can be no peace and it's very explicit about this.

Islam and the united states are like oil and water and those trying to stir the pot to mix them up don't understand either one.

I don't even know why i'm wasting my time when it's pretty clear that this thread is filled with people who don't have the first clue what it is their talking about or disgusted with. Just a bunch of people who parrot something they heard as if it were fact w/o researching any of it themselves. No wonder this country is so damn doomed. Get a clue idiots and try to do some thinking for yourself. It's amazing what you learn when you're not just mindlessly repeating what some stupid hollywood actor said.

+1 !!!
Amen !!

PS>> IF you want a good example of how barbaric Islam is, just look at how Islamic ruled countries conduct themselves ..... also, read the Quran ...its a real eye opener to fund out that Islam's great prophet was a murderer of his own uncle (and others)and a self proclaimed child molester !!

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The REALITY OF ISLAM !!
I wish more people would get educated like this and quit telling the bold face LIES that Islam is some sort of peaceful religion...nobody mentions the disgusting treatment of women by Islam....sick !!
Islam and a free society DO NOT MIX!!
 
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*STOP TRIPLE POSTING PLEASE, THERE IS AN EDIT BUTTON*.

PS>> IF you want a good example of how barbaric Islam is, just look at how Islamic ruled countries conduct themselves ..... also, read the Quran ...its a real eye opener to fund out that Islam's great prophet was a murderer of his own uncle (and others)and a self proclaimed child molester !!

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Come on now! So what you'll now be saying that Christianity is the savior religion of everybody?! :rolleyes:

Please put together a valid argument like thetravelingfool did before posting...please it will make yourself look less like someone that has no idea what they are talking about.

Moses killed his own son, surely he is horrible as well(oh right, he did it because God told him to right? :rolleyes: .

If you are going to bring up something, please do it in a responsible manner, not someone that just posts something that soon gets ignored. thetravelingfool provided evidence, where is yours?

Please give me solid evidence that Islam is "AN EVIL RELIGION".

*sigh*, people these days....
 
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Well.... Just read the whole thread......

The only point that I wished make is very minor but significant one.

Someone stated that "an Islamic leader said that terrorist are not true Muslins". The follow up question to him should have been "Are you saying that 9/11 was done by a radical terrorist and not true Muslims?'

It is the new work-around to appease the moderate non-Muslims to come out against terrorist but not say or agree that anything done in the name of Islam is terrorism. They call it Jihad not terrorism.

There is a video of one of those Sunday morning talk shows where the host tries to make an Islamic leader state that 9/11 was a terrorist act after he had been talking about how Islam would not tolerate terrorism. The leader ended up leaving the show as he was caught.

Other than that it has been a lively but polarized discussion with a lot of truths and beliefs shown.

Thank you.......
 
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Well.... Just read the whole thread......

The only point that I wished make is very minor but significant one.

Someone stated that "an Islamic leader said that terrorist are not true Muslins". The follow up question to him should have been "Are you saying that 9/11 was done by a radical terrorist and not true Muslims?'

It is the new work-around to appease the moderate non-Muslims to come out against terrorist but not say or agree that anything done in the name of Islam is terrorism. They call it Jihad not terrorism.

There is a video of one of those Sunday morning talk shows where the host tries to make an Islamic leader state that 9/11 was a terrorist act after he had been talking about how Islam would not tolerate terrorism. The leader ended up leaving the show as he was caught.

Other than that it has been a lively but polarized discussion with a lot of truths and beliefs shown.

Thank you.......

Im trying to make sense of your post.....

Could you explain a little clearer what you are saying?
 
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Please give me solid evidence that Islam is "AN EVIL RELIGION".

What's the point? You're just going to give some lame ass excuse as to why it's irrelevant and move on like you somehow proved your point. You want solid evidence and I gave you not 1, not 2 but one hundred and nine scripture examples on how the Qu'ran not only teaches but DEMANDS violence and you brushed that off. What more solid evidence do you need? I posted specific examples and your defense was to criticize me for using the copy/paste feature (oh, you caught me... I didn't type up 109 scripture excerpts for a stupid internet argument) which was pretty obvious to anyone and then when that didn't discredit me enough you started pasting your own quotes from the Christian Bible. You have yet to convince me how EITHER of these makes what I posted incorrect or inaccurate or taken out of context or... whatever deflecting reasoning you can come up with next.

I also find it pretty funny how NOBODY has attempted to discredit the simple fact that the 'NATION of ISLAM' is more than just a religion... it's a society... a nation if you will. So let's just eliminate the violence piece for a moment since some people appear unable to read quoted scripture for exactly what it says. How in the HELL can Islam be compatible with our current government when the Qu'ran clearly spells out how the society and government will be run? It doesn't mention Democracy anywhere within it's pages so how do you suggest it's even compatible with our country? The basic building blocks of the Nation of Islam and the United States of America a simply incompatible. Period.

Listen, I know there's a lot of people where who aren't going to put a lot of effort into this topic no matter how hard they fight one side or the other. For those not willing to put a lot of effort into it I suggest watching the video 'Islam: What the West Needs to Know' as a good starting point. Especially if you're of the mind that Islam is a peaceful religion *cough*Weazol*cough*Familyguy1*cough* and if nothing else it will at least motivate you to do some more of your OWN research rather than chose to believe whatever is force fed to you by the media.
 
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Listen, I know there's a lot of people where who aren't going to put a lot of effort into this topic no matter how hard they fight one side or the other. For those not willing to put a lot of effort into it I suggest watching the video 'Islam: What the West Needs to Know' as a good starting point. Especially if you're of the mind that Islam is a peaceful religion *cough*Weazol*cough*Familyguy1*cough* and if nothing else it will at least motivate you to do some more of your OWN research rather than chose to believe whatever is force fed to you by the media.

Oh no, you caught me:rolleyes:

Anyway: I have seen that video, did it open my eyes? No.

No religion is peaceful, Judaism certainly is not, Christianity certainly is not. Islam is not, Buddhism is not.

I have done my own research, so does that mean that after reading a lot about Islam that I am going to mistrust every Muslim I meet because they believe in a religion that is violent? No, I dont trust every Christian or Jew because of the same reasons.
 
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No religion is peaceful, Judaism certainly is not, Christianity certainly is not. Islam is not, Buddhism is not.

I have done my own research, so does that mean that after reading a lot about Islam that I am going to mistrust every Muslim I meet because they believe in a religion that is violent? No, I dont trust every Christian or Jew because of the same reasons.

Thank you. We finally agree on something.
 
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I'm too much is clearly flaming

Personally, I dont think any thing that covers face should be allowed in banks, shops wahtever
I also think in public hospitals, schools, government buildings, no religious items should be allowed
If you want to wear your burka or christian neck chain set up your own hospital/school and pay for it yourself!
I am not "flaming". You clearly don't know what that means. I never attacked anybody. I was just ranting.

Oh and it's I [a]m too much not I'm too much.

How would they know you were a white male?

I think it's okay to have dress codes in specific locations, such as schools/banks/courts etc., but not just generally.
Probably because the skin that they could see would be white. I thought that was kind of obvious, but I guess it's not for some people... :rolleyes:
 
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