Anyone been paying attention to the Windows Phone 7 lately?


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  1. mudrock1000

    mudrock1000 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    All the writers are busy writing about apple, HTC and google, but there isn't any love for the Windows 7 phone. Whatcha all think of it? How does it compare to android?

    I think it looks pretty neat actually, though I don't think I'll be giving up my n1 for it.
     

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  2. saltorio

    saltorio Well-Known Member

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    It's MS. I don't trust them in their personal electronics efforts. They've screwed both their customers as well as their hardware partners too many times.
     
  3. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    How exactly have they " screwed " anyone? Spewing false propaganda makes you look foolish.

    To the op, winmo7 looks very promising. As a former winmo user, no platform can match its functionality. if they tied that functionality into the new ui, it will indeed be a heavywieght contender. The microsoft bashers are like sprint bashers are like apple fanboys. They have zero factual basis, they like to follow internet/fashion trends, and despite factual evidence they will swear up and down on an inferior product. Lemmings is the term I believe.

    Your best bet is to do some real research. Fire up google, bing, or your favorite search engine. Try to look for FACTS. There is a lot of misinformation on the web like the above post, so making sense of these things can be rough. No one will really know how winmo7 will be like until it is released.

    Best of luck and regards.
     
  4. AstroDonut

    AstroDonut Well-Known Member

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    I had a look at the flash demo on the MS site, the UI looks quite interesting, I had a WinMo5 device (MDA Vario) and quite liked it, but the lure of a free handset upgrade to a nokia n95 dragged me away. I've always liked the MS products to be honest, they work, they are reliable, but they are a tad expensive.

    I must admit though, I do prefer the Android platform on a mobile device at the moment.

    I'm also due an upgrade well before the WinMo7 is released so it had better be good if it is to even try and lure me away from an HTC Desire.
     
  5. grainysand

    grainysand Well-Known Member

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    It looks interesting, but I dunno, WinPhone7 will be a step back in terms of customization and complexity (hardcoded UI, no multi-tasking) and I don't use any Microsoft-owned services (hotmail, xbox live) at all apart from MSN messenger, and even then many people I talk to are on Google Talk. So in terms of integration, as someone who prefers Google services, Android still has the edge. A big edge.

    We will see, I suppose, but I'm so content with my N1 that lately nothing being released or upcoming has excited me even a little. Comes from the security of knowing you have the best already and all that. (Yes, yes, it'll be outdated when 1.5 GHz Snapdragons/dual-core phones are coming out, but... that'll be many months away yet.)
     
  6. dmodert66

    dmodert66 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with some points garinysand said. Especially about locking down the phone. Based on comments that the MS dev gave in the Engadget interview, it seems like they want it locked down for a smooth user experience. They also state this same philosophy when talking about "strict hardware requirements". I think this may lead to a great (but not as capable) device for the mainstream that may not be comfortable with Android.

    I'm not a Microsoft hater (I LOVE Windows 7)...But for someone who wants an easy to use phone that also does many things that Winmo7 can not (or will not), then Android wins hands down.
     
  7. grainysand

    grainysand Well-Known Member

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    Ala closer to the iPhone business model, which I for one don't dig at all. The strict hardware requirements might be good, though, to prevent fragmentation--but as we've all seen, this leaves current WinMo users high and dry. Hello, HTC HD2 seeing an official upgrade to WinPhone7 never (despite fulfilling the hardware requirements, barring the five buttons).

    I do enjoy Win7 a lot on my PC, however, but that's a different animal.
     
  8. saltorio

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    Actually, I bash all the tech companies where they deserve it, and give them kudos where they deserve that. And definitely no Apple fanboy.

    Since you asked:
    1. MS created a music player platform a number of years ago which they licensed to a number of hardware manufacturers (can't remember what it was called) only to revoke the entire system a year or two later so they could release their own device and platform (Zune). This screwed their 'partners' because it killed the underlying service for selling music on the platform, and screwed the customers as their devices no longer had the software service they had bought into.

    2. MS is also not supporting Windows Mobile 6.1 with the upcoming Office Mobile 2010 (unless they've re-neged on that, which I haven't heard). This leaves the most WinMo users (as WinMo 6.5 hasn't even been out a year, and to my knowledge there haven't been too many devices released using the OS) in the cold regarding the significant update. I realize you can't support an OS forever, but forcing the vast majority of your user base to upgrade their hardware (as no phones I know of can be upgraded to 6.5) to an OS that that's already obsolete (or an OS that won't be released for several months) isn't something I look kindly on.

    3. And speaking of which, now we know that the HTC HD2 (one of the few WinMo 6.5 phones available) won't be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7.0, and not because of any real technical issues but because it has too many buttons.
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    To my knowledge no one I've come across has really mentioned the above complaints together, or even all but the last anytime recently, so saying I'm just following internet trends in bashing MS without factual basis would be incorrect.
     
  9. mudrock1000

    mudrock1000 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I really think Microsoft is taking one step forward and two steps back almost with what you guys have told me. The hardware requirements really bother me with this one. That could mean whoever gets to the keyboard first, sets the standard.

    It's a smart idea, but if they begin to turn into Apple, well alot of people are gonna be pissed...i can tell you right now.
     
  10. Dark Jedi

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    its windoze dont want the blue screen of death on my phone display. everything microsoft gets their hands on its screwed up. IE the toyota prius when they first came out microsoft wrote the program for the car. causing the car to just shut down while driving down the road.


    windows has more bugs than a baitshop.:D
     
  11. grainysand

    grainysand Well-Known Member

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    Are you... kidding? Ask any Windows user and you'd be hard-pressed to find one who's seen the blue screen of death any time in the last... five years? Eight years? WinXP was highly stable. Win7 is better and, oh yeah, handles 64-bit better than Apple's piece of shit--sorry, Snow Leopard.

    You sound like Steve Jobs fondled you.
     
  12. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    I've never seen the prius "shut down" on the road. Any problems are toyotas fault.
     
  13. Fadelight

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    :rolleyes:

    Considering Windows was born by Bill Gates and the theft of apple... which was, in turn, the theft of xerox GUI operating systems, I would say his statement wasn't making him look foolish at all. Your statement, on the other hand...



    Sorry. I just call 'em as I see 'em.


    We won't even touch on the subject of the legal issues in the past decade.
     
  14. lekky

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    You musn't use your pc that much! When I got my laptop with Vista, it became so unusable Dell actually sent me a free copy of XP so I could actually use my laptop! I have also experienced bsod's in the past 1 year, 5 years and 8 years..

    Anyway I'm not taking sides, just want those who are to use realistic arguments.

    Actually I am taking sides, i LOVE MY ZUNE HD. The interface for a music player is second to none (and that goes for the desktop player too). The win 7 phone wont replace my android, but I'm hoping my company migrate to it when it comes out so i can get one on company expense.
     
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    Saw the blue screen of death on my xp the other day, though see you point its not as often as it use to be, though does happen.
     
  16. Dark Jedi

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    nope wasnt toyota's fault. it was a softwear problem from microsoft. they even came out with a fix for toyota.

    guess you was in a coma during the whole vista fiasco.

    nope don't like apple as there stuff is overpriced. I do have an ipod touch but still wish I never bought it. this was my first and last apple product I will ever buy.

    you sound like Bill Gates fondled you.
     
  17. USofPlutarchy

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    Still don't understand people's problem with vista. I've had vista 64-bit since it came out and have yet to have a problem with it that wasn't fixed in a few hours, nor have I had a bsod....Maybe I'm lucky.
     
  18. grainysand

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    Sorry, but I use my PC extensively. PCs, in fact, as I've got several: one at the office, one at home for gaming, which is a pretty machine-intensive activity. What with messing around with drivers updates and overclocking, I belong to one of the demographics most susceptible to getting the OS borked. What blue screen? Not seen one for a long, long time.

    Vista sucked donkey dicks, but mostly it was a performance problem. Had it on a laptop, hated its guts, but no blue screen either. :)

    See above. Laggy and slow? Yes. Crashing all the time? No. I get that if you're tech-illiterate, using Windows can be difficult because it lets you tinker with the system files (much like rooted Android), but please.

    Bill Gates? You must've been living under a rock, dear boy. It's Steve Ballmer. And funny, I'm not using a WinMo phone, so trying to call me a Microsoft fantard is pretty lulzy. Windows Mobile as it is now is a godawful piece of shit. Windows 7 is, however, fine. Deal.
     
  19. Jmtegra

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    ^ ftw
     
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    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Actually no, Bill Gates and Stevie no-Wonder both saw the Xerox GUI at the same time, and they developed it at the same time. Apple just got it done first. Honestly, if Stevie boy was actually smart we would all be using Apple instead of Windows.

    And WinMo bashers in general just don't know how to use the system. There is still no platform as POWERFUL as the WinMo line. Classic WinMo is not for everyone, in fact it is for the tech-orientated people who know who to figure things out. Granted the UI is indeed a bit dated, but they were focusing on business/power users vs. "Look Cool" phones.
     
  21. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    (Look they stole the calculator design, too, big surprise!)
     
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    That was great..Thanks for that. I do like the iPhone for what it is, but I wouldn't give up my Droid for one...Even if on VZW...
     
  23. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    If you want to thank me, theres a button for that! =D
     
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    dmodert66 Well-Known Member

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    Smart Ass...LOL
     
  25. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Hahaha yeah I know.
     

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