Apple vs. Google, a good read


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  2. RoboMonkey

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    Great read. I've been thinking the same thing. One point I will disagree with him is on windows mobile. I think Microsoft still has a chance, if they would take the stick out of their @ss and work with developers.

    It's a wonderful think to having everything just work that's what Zune does with you're using media center and the zune market. Loved my Zune (I had to give it to my wife when her's broke).
     
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    Interesting article, but even as an Android fanboy, I found it to be a little biased. I hate Apple and what they stand for, but I wouldn't necessarily say the Evo is clearly a much better device than the iPhone 4. IMO, it blows it out of the water because of the options Android gives me, but the new iPhone is definitely a capable device.

    I do agree with all his points, but I'm just sayin... ;)
     
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    thx 4 the link
     
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    I enjoyed the read, very good. Thanks for posting it.
     
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    Great read, thanks.
     
  7. Snow_Fox

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    The one thing I really disagree with is ipads replacing desktops.. I do know he is talking about in the future.. but, lets be real..

    There is more to computing than pictures, videos, and music.
     
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    Vihzel Destroying Balls Everyday VIP Member

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    Agreed. How can a tablet device replace a desktop computer. He must be out of his mind. The processing power of a tablet can NOT even compare to the power of a desktop computer. He was delusional when he wrote that because he obviously was oblivious to the users who actually use desktop computers, especially in business, gaming, and animation industries.
     
  9. mbell75

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    Well it depends on what its used for. Example being me as a photographer. Of course I am always going to buy the pro Canon bodies and lenses I need for my shoots. Us pros are a VERY small percentage though, Canon makes most of its money from its consumer and prosumer cameras. These people dont need most of what I do because their needs are completely different. Its the same for computers too. Of course pros will ALWAYS need a desktop or something with huge processing power but guess what? The general public does not. Tablets like the iPad can already server alot of peoples needs. Add a few more things like USB to connect printers and disk drives/burners and I could easily see a device like the iPad replace laptops and especially desktops for the majority of people.
     
  10. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Mmm maybe in the distant future, id give it at least 20 years.... and on screen keyboards still won't match up to a real keyboard. And since the current tablets NEED a real computer to run, well, desktops/laptops aren't going anywhere for at least 20 years.

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  11. Jack Daniels

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    I agree with all his points but have to say Tech is doubling in speed power and advancement at a much higher rate than you think. in less than 20 years we went dos systems with just a couple mhz to the power of an I7. And that's in desktops and laptops cellphones are advancing at a much higher rate and with the ability to put a sound system on a 1gig platform we just hit gold and it's all a race from here.

    the point is at this rate the tech will be at what is his talking about in more like 10 years.

    i'm going to go out on a limb and say 3 years we have 2 gig systems and in 5 we will rival any desktop
     
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    That was my point. That is why desktops will not go extinct.
     
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    I am a strong believer that android and google is literally the future of mobile technology. I just cant see anything other than a repeat of microsoft vs. apple happening. Its the same damn fight all over again. I love it.
     
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    Yeah... but, as long as people are ponying up for liquid helium... I really doubt desktops are going anywhere.. Too many hardcore desktop users out there..

    And lets face it.. some people do like the more personal feeling of a desktop.. being set up having a 20" or more screen ect ect.

    While it will be fun to see where the phone market and mobile devices go, lets be real here.. there is a reason desktops are still being sold and things like the i7 exist.

    *Edit*

    And we do have a lot of power now.. but, reality check.. even desktops have a long way to go in terms of whats possible.
     
  15. Ynomrah

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    very true. i am actually a pretty serious desktop guy, and people into desktops also say the very same thing we are all talking about now. Technology in general is accelerating at an incredible pace, no one can argue that, however mobile tech seems to be accelerating a bit faster though.

    And you can blame Apple vs. Google for that.
     
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    If by blame you mean give them 529$ for a new phone.. alright XD.

    My impression just died.. I will have 600$ after next week.. the only question is will my parents pay for the 25$ a month for data.
     
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    lol. Well depends on who you give the $529 to. Im assuming N1? :p
     
  18. IOWA

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    Id like to see someone productively use the latest photoshop or illustrator on a tablet with no periphial input.

    Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
     
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    Cell phones will not and cannot rival any desktop in 5 years. 10 maybe. There are problems with everything from memory size to processor speed.

    Seriously, do you really see cellphones having 512GB HDD in 5 years? I would give you 10, maybe, but not 5.

    Plus, as a developer, there is no way that any cell phone will be suitable for a primary work platform in 5 years. Maybe 10 when we get voice command systems down pat, but not that soon.
     
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    Nah. Throw a 1.5ghz processor and 1GB of RAM in the iPad, give it a USB port to connect an external drive/burner or a printer and it would fit most peoples needs. Thats only a year or two off. They make a keyboard dock for the iPad already if you really need it and besides, speech to text will start taking over and make keyboards obsolete in future devices.
     
  21. IOWA

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    Make it 3 usb ports so I can use my wireless mouse & keyboard and still have a port open.

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  22. Jack Daniels

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    first of all you are being narrow minded if you look at home much things have advanced in the last 10 years you will see that my statement holds plenty of water.Second the hdd space may or may not get there but it could easily get close solid state drives are getting better and smaller every day and Third the cellphone as with many other devices is already starting to take that the desktop out of play (did you read the article) no it will not replace it (yet) but for a majority of the populace we are already stepping away from the monolith that is the desktop and looking for more mobile options. In 10 years hand held devices such as cellphones and things like the ipad will not only be the norm but rival most desktops. but at the same time desktops will be advancing so why you as will it have a chance in rivaling it. well the answer is simple the idea of a desktop that doesn't move that you come home to and play games on or use for other things like web and human interfacing is already becoming an archaic idea in most mindsets. if it wasn't your droid wouldn't be what it was and macs sales in there desktops wouldn't be trumped by the ipod and other portable systems. yes there will always be a more powerfull liquid cooled monolith but fewer people every day are buying desktops. they have gone from 3 to a house to 1.5 units per home this is a significant thing (can't find the stats to back that up right now it was in another news week article) .but the point is yest in terms of power (not space) which was what i was getting at yes they will easily rival a desktop. and be far more portable and available for the average consumer. As to the the rest of the power users no it will not replace the sli powerhouse or it's progenitors for things like running our new games or the latest bit of coding or video editing software but most people simply won't need it.
     
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    I hate to completely burst your bubble, but two key things need to be said here that will make it impossible for mobile computing to overtake desktop computing in any kind of foreseeable future.

    Battery tech. Can't do much without some radical battery tech improvements. I'm talking 1000% percent improvement. Try running an i7 with 4gb ram on a cell phone battery/tablet and let me know how it goes. Really.

    Heat sync technology. Until someone finds a new breakthrough method of fanless heat sync, the processors will simply get too hot to operate safely.

    Until those are fixed, I fear we are soon reaching the plateau of mobile computing power much like in the late 90s until dual core's were being thought up, but obviously they didn't face those two HUGE roadblocks.

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  24. Jack Daniels

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    you bring up good points and i agree with you. But if the hand held is popular enough we will find a way.

    Pleas note no where did i say top i said rival same as a laptop vs a desktop i never expect a battery powered system to beat a system that can be plugged into an almost unlimited amount of energy but it is a fact that every day technology is getting smart faster and smaller.all i am saying is that a 20 year time frame is more than generous and that 10 years is right around time when something like this would be virgining

    this is all speculation of course and i'm not going to fight out a hypothetical situation all i can say is waite and see
     
  25. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Gotcha. But mobile phones replacing laptops? Still face both of those gigantic barriers. Laptops are fan cooled, and laptops still can't equal the power of a desktop


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