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  1. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    See multiple hands-on video, including Anandtech. Quick and reliable are accurate.

    You miss my point. Basically, you cannot bypass fingerprint by cutting one's finger and using it. See above linked article in post before mine.

    Want to bet that it won't be 50/50? This ain't your laptop fingerprint reader. BTW, Bank of America relies on fingerprint to verify and access your account (and your safe deposit box).

    iOS7 is a copycat...fine. So, when Samsung et al. come out with 64-bit processors, will you guys say that it is the lamest feature of the phone? Note 3 was rumored to have fingerprint reader...does that make it the 2nd lamest feature of Android?

    For me, as a consumer, it is OK to get a product that may not be 1st, but as long as it works better, then i don't give a crap who's first or last. And Android will take a long long time to convert to 64 bit...to even make Samsung 64 bit chip be worth a dime! Now, next year, be sure to call Samsung out for being a copycat and adding a useless feature like a 64bit processor with the whole Android still being 32-bit.

  2. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    Really? Source? Nevermind, you think that S4 will outsell 5S? Ooooo...you may not want to put down that bet dude. (GS4 sales are underperforming.)
  3. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    How many of us use PATTERN unlock on our phones? I do. Which do you think is easier to crack? TouchID or Pattern?

    Face Unlock? That's secure? Hell no. And so damn finicky even after "training" it that it is absolutely useless.

    What if you look over the shoulder of someone entering their PIN? Isn't that a problem? Do you go to a dark corner and enter in the PIN while using the other hand to cover the screen? No.

    Anything can be hacked, copied, or stolen. TouchID offers quick access to your phone at the same security level as PIN.

    Lets be realistic and not be blinded by fanboyism.
  4. Slug

    Slug Check six! Moderator

    There was a link posted in #90 that, if read, explains exactly why the various "McGyver methods" won't work with this. Scepticism is all very well, but please don't let it get in the way of the facts.
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  5. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

  6. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    Doesn't that apply to just about everyone? Didn't 4.2.2 broke a few things? No one is perfect...and yeah, updates is why they are called updates.

    I am sure that iOS7 will have issues that will be addressed on subsequent updates. I was referring to the other "controversial" issues (TouchID, camera, and A7). I am not saying that iOS7 is pioneering anything...in fact, i wrote multiple times that it is a copy Android (and Windows).
  7. Thatdad

    Thatdad Well-Known Member

    We're not being blinded by fanboyism lol. If anything it seems like you are.


    Incomplete but it seems to me 5S is losing much. Fingerprint scanner? Woooohhhhhooo! Maybe Wozniak will finally dump android for it (
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  8. Thatdad

    Thatdad Well-Known Member

    Oh and to the guy who said calling Samsung copy cats of 64 bit processor..

    What's the 5C? Plastic?? Something they made fun of Samsung for for years!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Apple died right along with Jobs.

    I stand by everything I am saying.
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  9. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

  10. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but unlike Samsung (which i have BTW), the plastic on 5C is seamless and creakfree. It is steel-reinforced to prevent flexing. That is the difference.

    Keep your "factoids" coming...i would suggest that you stop because you don't know much.
  11. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    64-bit computing in the mobile space - if that's not pioneering, it'll do until pioneering happens.

    And the Apple A7 processor doesn't exist in a vacuum - it exists as part of that space.

    And 4.2.2 breaking things isn't on par with my complaint. I'm not saying that it must happen - but I am saying that new Apple stuff at this level has a track record of going beyond breaking things and screwing the pooch.

    That's not a secret and it's better known as a fact within the Apple camp than outside of it.

    After years of not changing and improving QA on that level, I'm simply saying to give it a chance. I'll be paying zero attention to performance comparisons, pro and con, with the A7/64-bit until after at least one revision update.

    Apple has a far, far better, but again not perfect like anyone else, track record on cameras. What's with the new lens? Will they stick to the expensive multi-coating of the past or cut corners in production? Do you think that the media experiences are being vetted as well since Steve Jobs passed away?

    I expect the blogosphere to love the camera. I'll continue to wait to see for myself.
  12. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    I agree. But then again, Anandtech isn't exactly a neophyte in blogosphere....
  13. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    Have you used an iPhone 5s yet?

    Or are you, like him, forming opinions based on the blogosphere?

    Please don't tell people to stop posting unless you have a red name tag here. :D

    All opinions are welcome.

    Attack issues, not other people.

    No one wants to test mod staff on that last point.

    I wouldn't. ;) :) :D
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  14. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    Brian Klug is a nice guy and more than very knowledgeable. I think very highly of him.

    My opinion stands for the reasons mentioned however.
  15. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    Well, difference is that my opinions are formed around well-reasoned facts and/or well-known sources.

    If your criteria is true, then why have a thread about 5S at all? Should you restrict it till 9/20 and only for those with purchase receipt?

    The point is that one should have knowledge based on verifiable source. Do you not agree?
  16. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

  17. gtbarry

    gtbarry Well-Known Member

    You should do a little reading.

    Security is as strong as the weakest link. Saying what apple released is "strong security, on par with PIN" doesn't mean anything to a sophisticated thief.

    And when apple says "Passcodes and the "slide to unlock" options will remain as backups if, for example, you're wearing gloves and can't access Touch ID." I know that it takes one tap for me to bypass biometric ID and get right to cracking the PIN. So no time wasted here.

    And for you to say apple "surged ahead" is quite humorous when the Motorola Atrix had fingerprint unlock 2 years ago and something called an HP Ipaq had it 8 years ago. Of course now you will say apple made it "QUICK and RELIABLE" - but of course you've never seen it or used it.
  18. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    Huh? Oh nevermind. Geez.
  19. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator


    This is a community resource.

    Posts flow unrestricted so long as our rules for polite decorum are followed - and only because that just makes it more fun for everyone.

    You're free to believe that you have the market cornered on the truth.

    Just respect that others have the right to same freedom. No sources out there are going to allow you to ignore that right.

    Knowledge and wisdom flows from many sources.

    Many of your well-reasoned facts on the A7 for example - if I were you, I'd wait before continuing to claim how it's destroying everything out there.

    But you do what you think best. :)

    Up until the point that others rights here are involved. ;)
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  20. Thatdad

    Thatdad Well-Known Member

    Lol okay then what is credible?

    Since when has the name tigmd been the leader in what's credible and what's not?

    I would think almost all of the links I provided are credible. Gsmarena has been a highly respected name for a very very long time.

    Nokia has the camera on way more lock down than iphone 5S.

  21. tigmd99

    tigmd99 Well-Known Member

    I am NOT asking you to stop ss1992 from posting...i am suggesting that ss1992 stop posting himself because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about. See below! :D

    Did you post a gsmarena link?? Gizmag is not gsmarena. ;)

    Look up Anandtech dude.

    Want to bet?? GS4 vs. 5S in sales. Put money where your mouth is. Come on!
  22. Thatdad

    Thatdad Well-Known Member

    We'll see when it comes out. All I know is by reading around on macrumors (might not be well known or credible to some people) is that people are not satisfied thus far like the other ones..
    That's not a good sign in my eyes.
  23. Slug

    Slug Check six! Moderator

    Nobody is against discussion, but when it degenerates into personal opinion being touted as fact, or tit-for-tat brand-bashing, it's time to cool the collective jets. That's not how we roll here. :)

    See posts #105 & #111. I think that answers the question nicely. ;)

    Fair warning to all: the Dept Of Arguments is down the hall, manned 24/7 by our nice Vorlon secretary. Let's all keep this thread civil and constructive, please.
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  24. Thatdad

    Thatdad Well-Known Member

    Wait I will apologize for the fact that I called phonearena Gsmarena.

    But hhmm........
    I think this says phonearena.. Not gizmag...
    At least have the decency to have enough respect to read everything someone is posting. Courtesy man.

    Trust me you don't need to put yourself on some pedestal.

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  25. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    I'm sure I was clear about dropping the fanboy talk.

    I'm sure I was clear about not playing moderator and telling people to shut up.

    I'm really sure that I just removed three posts after Slug's warning to drop the bickering.

    I'm sure that we never wanted to have to issue warnings.

    And I'm sure that this is being read.

    Infractions for continuing to ignore the warnings will be based on that if the silliness doesn't stop.
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