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Are there ZERO decent PIM's for Android?


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  1. mitchellvii

    mitchellvii Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hi all,

    Just bought an HTC EVO. Went in to start scheduling my day and learned (to my utter amazement) that there is NO INTEGRATION between Contacts and Calendars at all. None.

    If I want to call on Bob Wednesday at 2 pm, I cannot simply go to the Calendar, look up Bob's Contact information and link the Event to his record. Thus making accessing phone numbers, addresses, etc MUCH easier.

    I actually am required to enter all of this by hand from memory I guess.

    Are they insane?

    THE SOLUTION:
    So I did some research online and it looked like a product called "Touchdown" might be the solution.

    I got an MS Exchange account, installed Touchdown and with great excitement opened it.

    Same thing - NO calendar/contact integration AT ALL. How can they market this product as a PIM? How can anyone call this a "smart" phone when it can't do the simplest thing?

    Why is this so hard? I love this phone and want to stay with Android, but without an effect PIM (like Agendus), I simply cannot use this phone.

    What is the answer?
     

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  2. mcapozzi

    mcapozzi Well-Known Member

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    Why wouldn't you just create a entry in your calendar called "Call Bob", then when the reminder goes off, just call Bob.

    Or am I missing something here???

    -Mike
     
  3. KlaymenDK

    KlaymenDK Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum! :D

    It's true, Google's got nothing on what Palm did a decade ago. :( IMVHO, they've done a p!ss-poor job of the PDA aspect of the OS.

    It would be very nice if the calendar alarm had a facility to display Bob's number, so you could call him (from that or another phone).

    The only thing that comes anywhere close to the Calendar/Contact integration is the "Auto Birthdays" in the GMail Calendar, which I would also call faked because it does not show Bob's age or provide any way to actually open Bob's contact entry. At least, with HTC Sense on Android 2.x, you can view your contacts' birthdays on the phone; I don't know if that's due to Android 2.x or HTC Sense, but this certainly doesn't work on a stock Android 1.x. It's evident that it's a phone book rather than an address book proper.

    We can only hope that Android 4.0 will be perfect ... :eek:
     
  4. nightfishing

    nightfishing Well-Known Member

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    There are a couple of things in play, here in 2010 that are causing this "gap" in functionality.

    1. The practice of storing all your info LOCALLY is going away and going away fast. The old PIM concept of storing and manipulating contacts, appointments etc on a local disc (or pda) is just about over.

    2. All the info is now stored in the cloud (or from a centralized server) and it is all very easily accessed 24/7 from our PDAs, laptops, netbooks etc. The days of manually syncing multiple access points is (thankfully) almost gone.

    But, and here's the rub, the method of storage and access is still unsettled. There are a number of players and options and the market is not quite certain who/what will emerge as the standard. Due to this, we are not seeing the major players 100% on board with the tools that will allow all that information to interact intuitively on a multitude of device.

    BB, MS and Google are all looking to develop cross-platform tools that will allow the same (or comparable) manipulation to the info from ALL of your access points.

    Now, that doesn't explain why there isn't a simple tool to create an appointment from a contact or similar, but hopefully we will start seeing the bigger picture clarify which will solve all the little problems as well.
     
  5. toronado455

    toronado455 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to bump an older thread, but I searched and my question relates directly to the above post.

    I'm old fashioned in that I'm not quite comfortable yet with the whole concept of using a cloud-based contact & calendar and freely turning over all this information to Google.

    Is there a non-Google, non-cloud-based PIM for Android that I would basically "manually sync" the old-fashioned way via USB with my PC? Or should I just get over myself and use the GMail contacts and Google Calendar on the PC?
     
  6. Deltahawk

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    See my note entries in RED below:

     
  7. toronado455

    toronado455 Well-Known Member

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  8. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor Guide

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    Simple solution: Deja Office app
    https://market.android.com/details?id=com.companionlink.clusbsync

    + Category manager with colors
    + Advanced contacts sort (first name, last name, company name, categories)
    + 5 calendar views (day, week, month, year, list)
    + Multiple task styles (GTD, Franklin Covey, TBYL, Outlook-style, Palm-style)
    + Link contacts to calendar events
    + Calendar and task alarms
    + Group contacts by city, company, postal code
    + Set advanced calendar recurrence patterns
    + Daily agenda summary
    + Private records (password-protected)
    + Custom fields
    + Contact photos
    + Global search across all data types
    + 3 font sizes (Delightful, Business, Micro)
    + Guided wizard for quick setup
    + Set Android home screen shortcuts to individual DejaOffice apps
    + Integrates with built-in Android Contacts, Calendar, Dialer, Maps, Email, SMS, Browser
    + Dual-pane viewing options for Android Tablets. Better productivity and optimal use of screen space.
    + Supported languages include English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Czech, Japanese, Korean, Chinese (China) and Chinese (Taiwan).
    ==========================
    Optional PC Sync
    ==========================
    Sync DejaOffice with your productivity or PIM software:
    + Microsoft Outlook
    + Microsoft Outlook with Business Contact Manager
    + IBM Lotus Notes
    + Sage ACT!
    + Novell GroupWise
    + Palm Desktop
    + FrontRange GoldMine
    + Salesforce CRM
    + Time & Chaos
    Requires CompanionLink on the PC. Prices start at $49.95, one-time. Free phone and email support.
     
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  9. toronado455

    toronado455 Well-Known Member

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    I tried BirdieSync. It synced my Thunderbird contacts, but failed to work with Sunbird, so I uninstalled it. Not sure what the problem was. The PC app seemed to work, but on the Android app, there was no option to sync Calendar under BirdieSync. I might try it again in the future if I can figure out how to make that work.

    Next I'm going to try MyPhoneExplorer.
     
  10. 6StringDave

    6StringDave Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to Google, shouldn't the word "perfect" be spelled with a K? It's already got the F in about the right place!
     
  11. toronado455

    toronado455 Well-Known Member

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    I think I figured out the problem I'm having with my phone's calendar not syncing with Sunbird via BirdieSync. I'm trying out MyPhoneExplorer and it seems to have the same problem. On the phone, if you go to Calendar>Menu>More>Calendars it only shows my Google account. There doesn't seem to be any way to add a non-Google calendar.
     

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