Battery Issues


  1. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Hello,

    I am having battery issues. Sometimes a percent lasts an hour, and sometimes it lasts 5 minutes. The battery is sometimes (rarely) good, and usually drains. Things like turning off WiFi and 3g and managing the screen brightness I know. I have a rooted HTC Evo Design 4G.

    I also have DU Battery Saver Pro and Greenify installed.

    What can I do to make my battery last a while, and be consistent with it?

    Thanks so much!! :)

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  2. Crashdamage

    Crashdamage Well-Known Member

    Maybe the phone is sometimes searching for a good signal to lock onto? That is location-dependent of course, and so not something you can control.
  3. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Thank you for the response, bug I do not think that is it. My battery seems to drain at random times, and then seems good at others.

    Thanks,

    davidsports
  4. Crashdamage

    Crashdamage Well-Known Member

    Go to Settings > Battery and see what's draining the battery.
  5. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Thank you for your reply, I have before. I have installed apps to monitor my battery usage too, and nothing surprises me. (I still am experiencing poor battery life.)

    Thanks,

    davidsports
  6. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Hello,

    I am having battery issues. Sometimes a percent lasts an hour, and sometimes it lasts 5 minutes. The battery is sometimes (rarely) good, and usually drains. Things like turning off WiFi and 3g and managing the screen brightness I know. I have a rooted HTC Evo Design 4G.

    I also have Greenify installed.

    Is there anything I can do yo make my battery more consistent and better? (By battery I also mean standby time with my screen off.)
    I tried uninstalling apps, battery saving apps, etc.

    I have also downloaded a task manager in the past, and can again. Is there a certain take (Android system) that may be draining my battery, that is safe to stop? (I could also post a picture of the proceces but maybe one specific?)

    Should I clear my phone's data and reinstall apps? (If I did that how could I reinstall them with the data on them again? Pictures and music too?)

    Thanks so much!! :)

    Thanks,

    David
  7. Rukbat

    Rukbat Well-Known Member

    Are you looking at the total amount of power being drained from the battery, or the percentage of the top apps in the list? The total list will always be 100%, regardless of how much power is being used, since it's showing which app is drawing what percentage of the total amount of power being drawn. Even if the battery lasts 5 days, the bars will always add up to 100% (or would if every single app that woke up for a milisecond was shown).

    The amount of power being drawn is going to vary by the strength of the 2G signal you're receiving (even if you're not using data), if by nothing else. And that changes as the trees move, airplanes fly overhead and cars pass your house. The only place you can come close to getting the battery use consistent is to put the phone and a nanocell in a screen room and keep the door closed, so no outside factors influence the phone.

    As far as task managers, those things that kill apps, they cause more battery use, they don't save any. The concept was designed by someone who thought that Android works like Windows - it doesn't.

    If you get 2 days out of the battery with the phone just lying there doing nothing, you're getting normal life from the battery. You're using Greenify, so hybernate anything you don't need to be awake - phone, email, text - what we call asynchronous apps, those that have to work when you aren't telling them to. And keep anything you're not using off - wifi, GPS, Bluetooth. I run a smart Wifi app, only because I forget to turn wifi off when I leave the house, so the net is saving me some battery, but if your memory has fewer holes than mine, don't even waste battery on an app like that.

    Don't bother reinstalling apps - an app draws what it draws, it doesn't start drawing more current because it's been in the phone a long time. You'll just waste a little time and a little battery doing it. (And if you somehow lose that picture you didn't back up, can never take again, and it's a memory you never want to forget, you'll hate yourself.)
  8. nickdalzell

    nickdalzell Well-Known Member Contributor

    ironically a lot of my issues (including a hot device and bad battery life) went away when i removed the Play Store and the Google apps from my device (leaving Search and Newsstand which i actually use), so i blamed the services those apps used, and i had problems with Play Store a lot anyway. i'm sure not everyone would like that solution but it did solve tons of issues for me. Play Store and Google Play Music are data hogs even when you're not using them, so that was a problem.
  9. boathead

    boathead Well-Known Member

    from time to time, maybe 5 times in my cell phone history, i've experienced serious, inexplicable, battery drain every time, google has been the issue, with one or another of its servers or apps going rogue on me.

    last time it was play music, and app i've never touched in my life. disabled it, and right back to normal.

    i'm sort of used to it now, to look at google for the source of any such trouble. but what about the average user, who would have no idea? and i'm not saying i'm savvy, but i at least have my wake lock detectors and cpu spies to help me along.
  10. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Thank you, I should try this. :)
  11. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Thank you very much! :)
  12. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Ok thank you, and percentage of Android apps in the top of the list. Thank you for the long response! :)

    Thanks
  13. nickdalzell

    nickdalzell Well-Known Member Contributor

    if you still use Play apps, i'd not delete them, but try to go into settings-->Apps-->all and click each one and then choose either 'disable' or 'turn off' and hit ok on the dialog that comes up. this will remove the icon, remove the app from memory, as if deleted, but it will still be there if you choose to re-enable it, at the bottom of the 'all' list. try doing that for all Google apps, such as Play Store, Play Books, Google Search, etc and restart your device, and see if it improves in speed, battery life, and stability. i am certain that in some cases the Play Store or various other apps within Google Play cause a lot of problems they have yet to fix. all i know is Play Music blew through my entire data plan just sitting there, i wasn't playing any music. just had the app open and locked the screen.

    'De-Googling' my Samsung Galaxy SIII as i call it not only seemed to make the phone faster, but my battery life went from 5-8 hours standby to 18-24 hours standby, even in no signal areas. ignoring the 'cell standby' that sits at the top of my list, the next larger consumer was 'Google Services'. hence, Google Play.
  14. codesplice

    codesplice Elite Recognized Geek Moderator

    Hi davidsports,

    I've merged two of your threads as they both discuss similar topics.

    Please let me know if you have any questions. :)
  15. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Thank you very much! :)

    Thanks,

    davidsports
  16. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Hello,


    I have an HTC EVO Design 4G that is rooted. I have Greenify (Donation Package) and DU Speed Booster installed. DU shows the running system applications. In order to try to save battery, I will try to Greenify some of the system apps. Please, could you tell me which apps are SAFE to Greenify and won’t hurt my device if I do? Obviously some I can’t, could someone please go down the list and tell me which ones I can and can’t? Thank you so much for your time.


    Dialer
    Google Services Framework
    Google Play Services
    Google Search
    HTC Sense
    Wallpaper
    People
    Google Account Manager
    Personalize
    vDM Client
    Weather Provider
    Google Play Store
    Gmail
    Calendar
    Sound set
    Music Enhancer
    Voice Dialer
    Package Installer
    Smith
    My Uploads
    Network Location
    (There is also one that has woken up a few of my greenified apps I think like my stock Music app- I think it was the stock News or News Widget, does anyone know what it may be?)



    Thank you so much! :)


    Thanks,

    David
  17. SulkyAndroid17

    SulkyAndroid17 Well-Known Member

    Your phone will throw a fit if HTC Sense and the apps that depend on it can't get what they want. Freezing that stuff is a bad idea. So anything that interacts with Sense, don't touch.

    You said you were rooted. Do you have a custom recovery? Can you make a nandroid backup? That would remove a lot of the risk.

    Also, would you care to report what you see under Battery Use? It could go a long way to figuring out your problem.
  18. nickdalzell

    nickdalzell Well-Known Member Contributor

    All greenify does is disable notifications. That is a feature built into Android without the need for an additional app

    from the list it seems most of the apps using battery are Google apps. No surprise there.
  19. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Thank you both very much.

    Under battery usage, screen is 72%, followed by WiFi, standby and then radio.

    Thanks,

    David
  20. codesplice

    codesplice Elite Recognized Geek Moderator

    That is not what Greenify does. It "intelligently" terminates specified background processes when they haven't been in the foreground for a certain amount of time. A side-effect of terminating these processes is that notifications won't be received by those apps, but that's not at all the main purpose of Greenify.

    Think of it as a less-permanent alternative to Disabling or Freezing an app - you can still use it on-demand, but it won't automatically run in the background.
  21. codesplice

    codesplice Elite Recognized Geek Moderator

    That sounds about right :thumbup:
  22. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    A little update: This drain occurs when either WiFi or 3G is on. Is there something I can do to reduce the power consumption of my WiFi and 3G? I know to turn off the ones that aren't in use, and I am not interested in apps that shut it off temporarily and turns it back on.
    Thank you very much,
    David
  23. codesplice

    codesplice Elite Recognized Geek Moderator

    Could you post some screenshots of your Battery Usage screens?
  24. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    I actually did a factory reset and now my battery seems to be fine, from that matter. 3G tends to drain my battery a little though.


    Thanks,

    David
  25. davidsports

    davidsports Active Member

    Would you still like me to post a screenshot of my present battery usage?
    I also may have one from the past. Do you want one from the past if I have it?

    Sorry I didn't post one before.

    Thanks,

    Daivd

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