Better battery after cupcake, or not ????


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  1. jabtas

    jabtas Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Had my update for less than a week, and its destroyed my battery

    Before Cupcake, I got about 18-24 hours without a charge, with my normal use (even then it would only be on red)

    After Cupcake, It will totally die in about 18 hours

    Yesterday it took about 4 hours to charge to 100% from 0, took it off charge around 1pm yestrday and it died during the night last night
    :eek::eek::eek:

    Gonna have to be a call to T-Mo, methinks
     

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  2. Crackbone

    Crackbone Well-Known Member

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    It would appear your battery meter has reset. Try draining it all the way to zero and then leaving it on the charger over night and see if that doesn't help.
     
  3. pacothebandit

    pacothebandit Well-Known Member

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    Battery life obviously depends on what you do with your phone. I have spent some time on Quest, downloaded some apps, texting, no phone calls yet but my phone is at 49% and I took it off the charger at 9ish...I am using cupcake. I am unsure how much better the batt lasts now. Honestly it all depends on the user, Toggle Settings is a great app tho. It allows you to set profiles and toggle your switches as needed. I like it a lot better then Useful Switchers...anyway thats just my two cents. :D
     
  4. eagle

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    I never go beyond one day, before or after cupcake. And as I am still adding active time per day on the G1, that is not getting any better. But that has nothing do to with 1.5.
     
  5. mmikeyy

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    Actually, I found that cupcake has lengthened my battery life. I use it the same amount, maybe more these days. And my battery will last from about 8am to 11am the next day. Whereas before it would die around about 9 or 10pm.

    Just my experiences though.
     
  6. punkzanyj

    punkzanyj Well-Known Member

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    I started off with Toggle Settings, but then the Dev tried to cram every setting in creation into it and made it several pages long. With all the extra scrolling and tapping, it stopped being a shortcut. What I like about Useful Switchers is that almost everything is all on one page. So it's as simple as launch, tap, done.
     
  7. Jimi

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    Wow, you get 18 hours? I can just about get 12 hours with light use now, it really sucks. Think I'll have to invest in a charger for my van.
     
  8. 23james

    23james Active Member

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    my battery lifes definatly gone down.
    used to get two days out of it, now it will die from after being charged half of a night, then left on, and dies around 6pm the next day.
    gonna try the whole reset thing but dont see it working.
     
  9. 23james

    23james Active Member

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    on a related note, does anyone know anything about aa battery-usb ("emergency") chargers.
    given the new worse battery life i was thinkin about taking one of these with me on longer journeys etc.
    can they have any negative effects on battery life? ive read that not fully charging the battery for the g1 doesnt effect its lifespan i.e. the battery doesnt "remember" so cant see how it would.
    any ideas?
    thanks
     
  10. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    Li-ION battery are not subject to memory issues like Ni-Cads are ... so they can be charged at any point ... typically recharge is recommend at around 35% ... If not going to be used for extended period of time charge to 40% and store in cool dry place ...
     
  11. Cubesteak

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    :D LMAO!

    I think I noticed my battery lasting longer if I don't actually "use" the phone.

    But, try checking a webpage or 2, sending 5 or 10 txt messages and make a 20 minute phone call and you will quickly see your battery meter drop to half.

    I think it's just that very nice large screen that is sucking down the battery. For those of you experiencing issues, try dimming the screen.
     
  12. ChilledMatt

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    I use my phone loads and since 1.5 it lasts all day comfortably. I have the screen fairly dim (20%). Prior to 1.5 my battery was not as good as it is now.
     
  13. MichaelSF

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    I was on top of this battery issue as soon as I got my G1 since I heard so much bad press about it.

    Bought an extended battery on eBay and am getting two to three days use now (using the Net, 3G, BT, and maybe five hours in calls).

    I rooted my G1 a few days back and have noticed LONGER battery life. I heard others saying they get better battery life with Cupcake.

    Maybe it has to do with rooters using app managers where they can turn off apps running in the background.

    In any event, I posted a YouTube video on my extended battery experience. You are not allowed to laugh. If you do, I will hear you and hit you on the side of the head with a wet tuna and throw your G1 into the sewer:

    YouTube - How To: T-Mobile G1 Extended Battery. Where to Buy, Weight Tests
     
  14. MichaelSF

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    And by the way, batteries are a finicky thing. IMHO no two battery experiences by users are the same.

    Some people don't properly charge the battery when they first get it.

    Some people may have a bad battery, with defective cells.

    Everyone's phone use is different, but everyone says the same thing, "I hardly use it, don't use it that much" etc., etc.

    Batteries, regardless of brand or quality will wear out, lasting three to five years. Manufacturers are known to use old lithium cells on new batteries. So when we get the new G1, the insides of the battery may be old and worn. Kinda like making a tasty stew with rotted meat. Stew looks great on the outside, but eat it and you are running to the toilet.:eek:

    These smartphones are battery hogs anyway. With BT, WiFi, GPS, big displays, playing videos, games, and making phone calls, that's a heavy load on these little phones.

    You need a BIG battery to handle these the processes you put the phone through, but manufacturers are torn between designing a HUGE phone with an adequate battery or slimming them down to make the phone attractive, but knowing the battery is too small for what the phone will be going through.

    Look at my YouTube video. That extended battery bulked up the phone, but it now has the size battery needed for the G1.

    Consider yourself lucky. Poor Apple stuck its iPhone users with a non-removable battery. That was one of the reasons I was not interested i that phone.

    And I hear lots of iPhone users complaining about the iPhone's inadequate battery! But they are stuck. While a competent geek can replace the battery, 90% of iPhone users don't have a clue how to replace the battery themselves.
     
  15. athlaig

    athlaig Well-Known Member

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    since updating to the UK version of cupcake i have experienced dramatic reduction in battery life. I literally will not get more than 5-7 hours and that is if i have all power drainers tunred off and not using IM or the internet. Not sure if it is because i have the UK version but if this continues when i have the US version i will be quite disturbed.
     
  16. MichaelSF

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    I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I would initially question if it's your OS that's causing the battery drain.

    Sometimes batteries go bad early in their life. That's why most carriers don't warrant a battery except for the first 30 days after purchase or thereabouts.

    Sometimes batteries go bad because of how one has charged it. If one does not fully charge the battery for at least 24 hours on getting the phone (or battery) it will possibly not be fully functional from then on. (For example, working at half power).

    All that said, we best keep an eye on this to see if it is a cupcake OS issue. I have read about others mentioning the same issue. And preliminarily, I have noticed my battery seems to drain faster after the update.

    But I have not been paying attention to it. So I'll report back after my tests.

    Of course, the experts and geeks will get on top of this. If it's an OS issue, a fix will be forthcoming. The OS has only just come out so give it time. It would be somewhat scandalous if it turns out the OS is causing rapid battery drain. One would think that developers would have that on their checklist of things to look at before the OS is released.

    As to causes, it could be a TSR issue. That's from the Windows days of "terminate and stay resident." What it means is that while we are turning off applications and features such as GPS, Blue Tooth, and WiFi, it's possible while we see the services indicated as being off, deep inside the OS it still is treating the services as being on, end result huge battery drain.

    It's just a thought, I have not looked into this so do a Google check to see what comes up, something like "cupcake causes battery drain."

    The issue is still new, experiment with various search terms.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=cupc...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

    http://www.google.com/search?q=cupc...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1


    Sidenote: I am not too concerned about the battery issue unless T-Mo and Android are hiding the ball on the issue, but I don't think they are.
     
  17. ROBIN50N

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    after this 2nd "secruitiy" update, the chargeing up seems to be alot quicker than it was after cupcake:)
    edit. scrap that after 50% it takes ages
     
  18. killer3160

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    my battery goes down 1% after like every 3 text message i send:mad:
     
  19. abgarza

    abgarza Well-Known Member

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    Last night, I was at the hospital until 2:30 (not for me) and my battery drained down to 5%, but I was REALLY nursing it. I charged it until 7:00 am and only got 70 % charge. A little bit later, after I plugged back in (10 minutes tops), it jumped to 100%. By 4:00, it was down to 48%, with light use on Edge. This started happening after unsuccesfully tryiing to install JF 1.51 update. I'm not trying to say its a bad build. The phone force close when I was trying update, and I rebooted and everything seemed to work fine...except the battery life is shot now. I removed the battery and let it sit for awhile. I'll update any new developments.
     
  20. wespac78

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    I have noticed that since I have downloaded and applied a couple of widgets to my home screen my battery life has been reduced dramatically. When I first updated to cupcake (which was the OTA update) my battery life was improved a considerable amount. But, now that I have placed a weather widget, battery widget, and time and date widget to my home screen my battery life is horrible. So my question is. For all those who are stating that their battery life is worse with cupcake, are you running widgets? If so what ones?
     
  21. justforfun

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    My battery is worse too, it drains up in about 8 hours, and if browsing or something we can see the battery count down in every 10-15 seconds, there is something seriously wrong about the cupcake, it needs to be fixed, I dont know is this came to Google's attention or not....
     
  22. punkzanyj

    punkzanyj Well-Known Member

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    I haven't really noticed much of a difference in battery life since getting cupcake.

    I have switched up some programs, no longer using twidroid, using BuddyMob instead.

    I have one widget, the default calendar widget.

    I use task-switcher to help me make sure I've got apps turned off when I'm done with them (here's the hint, back-button out of an app if you want it to close, home button if you want to suspend)

    I also use Locale to have my settings change based on appointments, time of day, and charging status. Seems to help.

    The one day I did have bad battery I had 3 different widgets running and Fbook checking for updates in the background whenever it wants to.
     
  23. kpearsonxyz

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    I've noticed my battery life to be a bit worse, but not a great deal.

    I have noticed, however, that the battery reporting is off. I ran the battery out completely, and getting down to 1% seemed to happen faster, but it stayed at 1%, running music or streaming radio in the background while playing games or reading docs online, for about 30 minutes, which was a lot longer than before Cupcake.

    So, I've done some testing here and there. When I get up after the phone has charged all night, I use it for a bit, play a couple games, etc., and the battery drops to about 85%. I shut the phone down and when it comes back up, it shows 95%.

    Also, when I charge, either with USB or on the wall-connected charger, it never seems to get to 100%. it stops around 85-94% and just seems to be there forever. If I THEN shut it off, or reboot, the battery shows 100% again when the phone is all the way booted up.

    I think Cupcake doesn't handle the battery reporting part correctly.

    I could be wrong, but after reading the above posts, I'm suspecting something amiss somewhere, which I'm hoping the Android team will look into.

    KLP
     
  24. justjimjpc

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    After an overnight charging .... Pop the battery out of the phone ... wait two minutes and then put it back end ... this may/should reset the reported levels ...
     
  25. kpearsonxyz

    kpearsonxyz Active Member

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    Okay, overnight charge went to 100%, so I removed the battery (left it out for a minute) and then put it back, booted and started using the phone.

    The battery went to 84% in less than 10 minutes. I put it on the charger, showered, etc. and it was up to 87%, no more. I power-cycled the phone (using the red hangup button) and when it came back up, the battery was at 100%.

    Now what?

    Oh, and being a klutz, when removing the battery cover, I got the USB cover caught on the back of the case and it broke off. Any suggestions? I called the local T-Mobile store, and they didn't think there was much I could do. T-Mobile can't fix that, they told me. What about HTC? What about an after-market replacement?

    Thanks,

    KLP
     

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