LG makes 3 variations of the C800: The C800G, C800DG, and C800VL. According to everything I could dig up, the C800G is primarily a canadian use phone by Skytel and Bell mobile, but it is also used by Virgin Mobile as the LG Eclypse. the C800DG and C800VL on the other hand.. everything says they are both used by TMobile. Somehow I doubt this is true, so I did a bit more digging. LG has a developer website that you can feed your IMEI into, and it reveals a lot of usefull info, including the download address for the most current stock KDZ reload image if one is available. I fed my TMo C800 IMEI to the web, and this is what LG says: <?xmlversion='1.0'encoding='utf-8'?> <responsereq_cmd='auth_model_check'status='OK'> <auth_model_check> <result>2</result> <esn>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</esn> <model>LGC800DG</model> <suffix>ATMODG</suffix> <msn>xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</msn> <esn_date>20120510</esn_date> <sw_version></sw_version> <sw_url></sw_url> <sw_locale_url></sw_locale_url> <sw_recommand_uri>GLOBAL/GLOBAL</sw_recommand_uri> <app_version></app_version> <app_url></app_url> <cs_em_flag>N</cs_em_flag> <cs_em_uri>N</cs_em_uri> <chip_type></chip_type> <prod_type></prod_type> </auth_model_check></response> As you can see from the section I put in bold, my TMo C800 is actually a C800DG, not a C800VL like most people commonly think. Due to the inherent danger of flashing the wrong rom on a phone, I figured I would double check, and at least provide the resource for people to check on their own phone as well: Code (Text): csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=INSERT IMEI HERE copy/pasta the address above into your browser. Insert your IMEI into the above web address. Press enter. You should get back a BLANK PAGE.. it's not really blank. it's XML. Right Click on the page and select VIEW SOURCE to see the XML goodies hidden from you. This web address should work for all LG phones. If there is a stock carrier KDZ reload image available, the download address for it will appear in the XML under the <SW_URL> section.