Can I do all this on AT&T's network?


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  1. Topshelf

    Topshelf Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hey guys, I just posted this exact same question in the Verizon section and found out that I can't do what I need, so I'm asking the same thing here. I've been waiting for a good Android phone for some time now, and it's starting to look we're only a month away from 1 or 2 big releases. (obviously that was Verizon phones) So here's what I need to know. I spend a lot of time in my car every day. I'm looking to use the Android phone as a full blown phone/gps/media center. I'd like to mount the phone in the car, fire up some MP3's, get my Google GPS going, and then make phone calls while this is all happening with everything working together. So when a call is placed or received, the MP3 should instantly pause, the GPS should continue to work as normal and then the MP3 should return to playing where it left off when the call ends. To me this sounds so basic, but I've learned that things aren't always this simple. My two big concerns are the phones ability to multitask and Verizon's network being able to handle voice/data at the same time. Looks like I was right about the second issue...so can AT&T's phones do this? Also debating jailbreaking an iPhone if it's possible.

    Thanks for any input.;)
     

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  2. Howie

    Howie Well-Known Member

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    Yes AT&T can do voice and data at the same time. Not sure if the GPS would function "as normal" while on a call with any device. It may still track and possibly display, but you would most likely lose the voice directions while on the phone.
     
  3. colnago

    colnago Well-Known Member

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    No voice and data while on Edge.
     
  4. Topshelf

    Topshelf Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Thanks again. After thinking this over last night and ALMOST deciding on jailbreaking an iPhone, I've decided to wait for the upcoming Incredible/N1 and see how it goes. I figure they are going to have all the features I want, so I'll try it out and see how things mesh. I can then decide if a dedicated GPS is needed (most likely), but I'm too darn curious to see what I can get out of this amazing voice activated Google system. So now it's just back to the waiting game. Are we ever not waiting for the next best device? :)
     
  5. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    LOL just get Standalone devices, Phone GPS can be VERY unreliable, especially during PEAK hours. And no phone in existence can do this. Your expecting waaayyy too much. Seriously. If it was so simple, then design a phone yourself and make millions =D
     
  6. colnago

    colnago Well-Known Member

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    No phone can do what? Run GPS app, while doing, mp3s, voice and data? Or just run GPS without data? My n900 perform in either situation, along with many other phones, which run GPS apps locally (either native or 3rd party apps).

    Got multitasking? And yes, when in "windowed mode", if the window "changes" (i.e. video/web page loading/etc) you see it in the window...it helps having 1Gig of "RAM":

    YouTube - Nokia N900 / Maemo 5 / MULTITASKING in action
     
  7. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    That is an impressive device indeed. They really need to up the game for our handsets.
     
  8. colnago

    colnago Well-Known Member

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    True, but I still wouldn't "want" to use my device as in the OP's scenario, although I understand that its nice to know that one can, if need be...screen too small for dedicated GPS "for me". I prefer my AVIC. :p

    We've come a long way with smartphones/all-in-one devices, but I still find it odd that there is still not a model that does everything "well"...not that it needs to equal a dedicated device, but it seems like there is always something missing, or too much of a compromise has been made, be it hardware or software (OS features).
     
  9. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Agreed. I like my hacked nextar q404
     
  10. JK_the_Slacker

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    The problem here is one of economics: How much would you be willing to pay for such a device?

    Let's examine my crappy Nokia phone, which I got for free, and see just how much value I'm getting out of it:

    Full-duplex trunked radio transceiver: $1000+
    Basic mp3 player: $20
    Scientific calculator: $30
    Exchange rate calculator: $50
    Alarm clock: $20
    Digital camera: $100
    Digital Voice Recorder: $45
    PDA: $230
    Handheld Gaming Device: $80
    Handheld Web Browser: $270

    Remember, this all cost me... absolutely nothing. Got it free with my subscription of about $50 a month. They even built or rented the infrastructure covering a huge chunk of the nation, should I decide to take a trip somewhere. Also, the battery will last me through several days of usage.

    All of a sudden, a multifunction device like you're describing sounds like a rather big undertaking. Somebody's got to pay for it, and pay well.
     
  11. colnago

    colnago Well-Known Member

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    I understand your point, but you're going off on a tangent. I was referring to the OP's scenario of "one device = GPS + phone + media player" for use in the car.

    Most smartphones do what you listed, but "my point" was that I wouldn't want to rely on GPS via my phone, for the simple fact that its too small "for me", even when mounted on the sun visor. Coupled with the fact that if you lose data connection, if the software is not local to the phone, you lose the map. To avoid those issues, I opted for a Pioneer AVIC 700BT, which I purchaced new, for $350, a similar price, for similarly equiped standalone portable GPS units, yet I get more value via the headunit as it has more features.

    As far as "building the ultimate device", for general usage, there are numerous devices which "come close". My point with that is its well within any manufacturers capability, as individual features are found on any given phone, but none seem to put it together in one package...at least as far as what I'm looking for (touch screen + keyboard). For example:

    Droid - Poor reception (CDMA version...GSM Milestone may be a future purchase), no TV out, no simultaneous Voice/Data, no Euro capability

    Touch Pro 2 - Unstable/laggy OS, no camera flash, GSM version has suspect signal reception (vs. other phones on same network)

    N900 - Only version is for T-Mobile where frequency makes it susceptible to poor reception inside certain buildings (but has better reception overall vs. other 2 phones), low call volume (despite 2-speakers, though media plays much louder :mad:), incomplete OS (no MMS), USB port prone to separating from mainboard.

    The n900 comes closest to doing "it all", hardware wise, and I doubt that an AT&T banded 3G version, with louder call volume, would be cost prohibitive. Nokia already has 850/1900 radios, and call volume is just a software thing.
     
  12. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    The OS is not "unstable" or "laggy" Do they grow these winmo bashers somewhere?
     
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    colnago Well-Known Member

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    I have a Motorola Q, running sliding panels in WM 6.1, that is still running flawlessly after 2+ years...even with numerous modifications. I also have never had any issues with reception on AT&T, despite the negative perceptions. I will keep this phone, and use as a backup, as long as there is a functioning 3G network I can connect to, as it has proven highly reliable.

    Both AT&T branded Touch Pro 2s I demo'd, along with a Fuze, at two different AT&T stores, froze for 2+ minutes, simply navigating the menus. This, plus other reported freezing issues, by regulars on another forum I frequent, combined with all the "freezing" reports on AT&T's site, is enough for me to discount WM on a "touch device". At least the stock ROM, with AT&T's version...the only version I'd be interested in.
     
  14. Maxx

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    Well this is an android board so I expect it, But I've been using my AT&T Fuze since it came out and I've never had any issues with the OS. Now granted I am using a more stripped down ROM from xda, but the OS is still 6.1 and I have no issues with it.

    When I got it I chose this over the G1 because I wasn't sure of android yet. I am thoroughly convinced I want Android as my next OS, but I don't think winmo is all that bad and 7 looks even better for what it's worth...
     

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