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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Good Morning! I did a search on this subject, and I was wondering if there was any information out there for what you can do once you are rooted... Do you have a guide that describes these things:

    #1 Once Rooted, what is the first thing you should do?

    #2 Which Factory Sprint apps are safe to remove?

    #3 If you are wi-fi tethering, what is the best app, and is it safe to turn on the sprint hotspot tick box, and not get charged 30.00 by sprint?

    #4 is there a specific site or guide for adding roms safely and without blowing up your phone?

    #5 does your carrier know whaen you have rooted your phone?

    #6 My phone says I have an update available, is it safe to do sprint updates if you havent added a rom to your phone?

    #7 what are the essential apps you need for a rooted phone in order to keep it running smoothly?

    #8 What if you want to put it back to original factory settings? Do you have to go through some crazy hoo haa just like you did to root it?

    #9 what do I these words mean? Root, RUU, Rom, SDK, and all of those other acronyms everyone is so fond of using, but never explaining what they mean for the new people... remember you werent all born with the ability to understand everything all at once without some help.

    #10 Thank you for any help you can provide, and please be kind in your responses, you catch more flies with honey, than you do with poo.
     

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    lol
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So, what you are saying, is the first thing I should do, is laugh... is that manically, or happily? I did both actually, because I was actually thrilled I didnt blow my phone up, and then I made out with my phone, because I love it so....

    Oh one more question:

    #11 I just installed titanium backup, and Im not sure what the best settings are to use, any ideas?
     
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    Wow, that is a lot of questions. I wont go through each individually....maybe others will help you there, but I can help point you in the right direction.

    First up.. stickies are your friend. I recommend checking the stickies in this forum and also over at XDA forum (where all the developers hang out).

    http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html

    That link should answer about half of your questions.

    HTC Supersonic - XDA-Developers

    That link should give you more direction in your rooting discovery experience.

    Hopefully that helps.
     
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    wake69 Well-Known Member

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    #1, do a nandroid backup

    2. Pretty much all of em, I have all removed but nascar, nfl and sprint zone

    3.Use wireless tether, mine came with my rom, but it is available here

    4. there is a post about this here

    5. no, unless you take it in for service

    6. NO, NEVER TAKE OTA UPDATES, Read this discussion

    7. Rom manager, titanium backup, set cpu, I like battery left and extended power controls for a 4g widhet

    8. You use the RUU to return to stock, and also usually taking an ota update will take you back to stock

    9. RUU, SDK
     
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    Meltz014 Well-Known Member

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    i second Wake69's answer to #7. I've been using SetCPU and been getting awesome battery life. ShootME is also pretty good (at least for showing stuff off on these forums :D ) and the SwitchPro widget has some root functionality as well (for rebooting straight into recovery)
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    ShootME? hmmm... is that something in the market? Sorry, lol... I will get the hang of this eventually. I'm a..... what do you say.... hands on learner... I have to do the thing to learn it, and since my evo is important to me, I like to make sure I am doing the right things by asking many questions, :eek:) Thank you all for being so kind, and not yelling at me and asking me if I know what a search feature and such is... I always search first, but I dont always find the answers to my questions. Thank you again! :eek:)
     
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    Shoot me is in the market. Titanium backup is a great app, however it has some drawbacks. Remember a few things, before you make any changes do a nandroid backup. When upgrading a rom to a newer version, you will need to wipe both caches unless otherwise noted to do a full wipe. When swiching from one rom to a different rom, not upgrading you will always need to do a full wipe as well as wiping both caches. Third when staying in the same rom, you can restore files, apps and settings, but when changing roms you should only restore apps only, sometimes the settings will make things act funny. i also recommend using appsaver, this is available in the market and allows you to save the apk file foe all apps installed so you can just install from the apk files. Also, backup your sdcard on your computer at least 1 time per week, i had a sdcard go bad and did not have a recent backup and was in a bad place. have fun!
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Okay I keep seeing posts about Nandroid backups, and I looked all over the internet on how to do it, but I am not getting clear answers.. what exactly is one? what does nandroid mean? and is there a very understandable guide somewhere so I can do this nandroid thing? :eek:) Thank you!
     
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    from reading on here nandroid is in the recovery menue

    boot into recovery--and vol down to nandroid, hit power to select and it'll take care of the rest.
    as to your signature
    "Stop Microsoft From Taking Over The World. Buy a Mac"

    Shouldn't it say stop microsoft from taking over the world and Steve Jobs from dictating to you go linux? Or something.
     
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    Try these pages:
    Modder***8217;s Column: The Hunt For The Best HTC EVO 4G ROM | Android News, Reviews, Applications, Games, Phones, Devices, Tips, Mods, Videos, Podcasts - Android Police
    Recommended reading for all new to rooting.
    Check out the little blue box in that article with 4 bullet points that starts with "This article mentions rooting, Nandroid, and flashing of custom ROMs. If you***8217;re unfamiliar with some of the terms, hit up our primers here:" I read these and it really helped me. It is a few months old, but clears things up pretty well. I still have some questions, but I'm closer to leaving the newbie status.
     
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    I hate to say this, but I had all the same questions when I first rooted, and I found all the answers by searching. You said you searched, but I doubt you did or spent more then 5 minutes searching. Between here and XDA, I found everything.

    start searching at 11:36 for answers:
    #1: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/181039-first-post-root-then-what.html
    #2: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/90378-after-root-how-do-you-remove-bloatware.html
    #3: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/180576-wifi-tether-rooted-2-2-a.html
    #4: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...ht-sound-stupid-but-how-do-you-flash-rom.html
    #5: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/184900-will-sprint-know-im-rooted-over-phone.html
    End search for above topics at 11:46am. So in 10 minutes I was able to find threads for the first five questions only by looking at the thread title, not even searching. Whether they answer your question or not I don't know because I didn't open the thread.
    I looked through he first 6 pages in this Root forum. Glad some people were kind enough to help you even though it is easy enough to do it yourself.
    Search is your friend. Don't take this the wrong way. I'm not here to bust your balls but you'll see threads with no answers because they have been asked before. Sometimes you'll get 'internet yelled at' or lollered at for reposting things.
    Good luck with your root. Remember to search over at XDA, too, because that is where a ton of issues are reported and fixed and talked about.

    And, at the bottom of my post here, in my sig, there are links to XDA pages for ROMS and Kernels. You can get the info about each one from there.
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Im sorry, I did take this the wrong way. I am a 36 year old woman, whom has experience with several different operating systems, and I do my research, and I certainly know how to use "google", and how to input my search queries. I did not come here asking to get "my balls" busted, I came here to get answers to specific questions that were not explained clearly at many of the hundreds of sites there are full of jokers claiming they are so much superior to anyone else, and they should not have to take time out of thier most important lives (in mommies basements playing WoW, and drooling over the latest video cards, and getting doritoes caught in thier sweaty moobs) to help someone who is trying to learn something new. Most of these people only half explain techniques, and they leave important information out like the whole pressing the volume down, and the power button at the same time thing. I was not born with this information already in my head, If I were, I would be wealthy and driving a lotus and living in a mansion filled with 10 hot naked men serving me 24/7, but since I am not anything but a mere woman with "balls" mind you, and 5 children and a jerk for a husband, I just dont have 28 hours to spend searching and reading every cocky fools "better than thou posts". I came here kindly asking for help, and people have kindly helped, but then you get the people that sound like you have wasted thier precious web space, and that they will throw you a freaking bone by pointing out how obviously stupid you are. If it was such a problem for you to say anything, perhaps you should have said nothing at all. Just like when my dad is smoking pot, and drinking beer, he says some outragiously stupid things, and to avoid his nonsense, I generally say nothing at all, and just nod my head "uh huh dad, yep you know everything, oh yes sure, you can totally put a GPS up someones arse and follow them everywhere with out them knowing it mmm hmmm...." Oh and my phone is rooted, you will see that in a previous post, I just had some specific questions on how to do other things, but I see I am not welcome to ask, since I am sure the answer is at some other forum. Sometimes I really hate being a "nice" geek, because if I know something, I sure as sh*t wont tell them to look somewhere else, I will do my best to help without making them feel like crap for asking. Thank you to all the other folks for not telling me the obvious.... as I expressed before I googled everything! and you know what? I still cant get wi-fi tether to work, and I put in about 50 different search terms on it, guess I better go for 51. *insane laughter* yeah Im nuts, I have five bratty kids. lol
     
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    ouch
     
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    Funny. There is a thread on this site that tells you where to get the right wireless tether, because I found that thread and got the right tether and it works. Let me find it for you.
     
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    Downloads - android-wifi-tether - Project Hosting on Google Code

    Download WiFi Tether from here (the latest version). If your phone is rooted it should work, if you installed the recent ota you have to reroot your phone as the update unrooted it.

    If you dont have a barcode scanner go to the market and get one. You can scan the bar code on the web page to download it to your phone.
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Ugh, I have that one, and I downloaded barnacle too, I tried all kind of different settings, and. Can't. Get. It. To. Work. Do not talk to me if you are going to be a smart a**. I get enough of that crap from my 17 year old penis of a son.
     
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    Right on harukasan73! I have been reading and searching this forum for weeks, I have asked several questions and I usually get really nice people answering my questions, but because they are technologically advanced, they assume I know the lingo. Many times I get a response with a link to another thread. When I read that thread it starts with simple instructions, but then in the next 5 or 6 posts there are several people adding, "Oh but don't for get to do this or that" and they typically don't explain what that is clearly or how to do it.
    Over time, I have slowly figured out how to root, how to get WiFi tether to work. But after all the reading, flashing a rom is still not clear. I'm still not sure what to do after I flash. If I have "wiped" my phone, what do I have to do to get all my stuff back? Yes I understand what "Use titanium" means, but how? There is always a step that is not clear that makes me want to wait and read more.
    I wish there were a quick guide for all of us who are missing pieces to this enormous puzzle. Many pages and post that explain things are several months old and do not talk to the specifics of the versions we have questions about. This makes having a current all inclusive set of complete instructions almost impossible.
    There are lots of good people here that want to help. Many do try, and do help me. I continue to gain knowledge, as will you. Just ignore those who yell about using the search, even after you did. Good luck with this.
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Oh my gosh! Thank you nykbob! you totally get what I am trying to say! thank you so much for understanding, and explaining it all in a different way, so that maybe others will understand my problems with the forum search... although there are answers, the whole answer is not always there, and that one missing part could be the end of my evo! Thank you thank you thank you for getting where I am coming from!
     
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    Just want to remind everyone about the Site Rules/Guidelines. In AndroidForums, we are kind and curteous and try to help those that have questions or issues. It's great if people do a search, but sometimes searching doesn't give you the information you desire. If you don't want to help the person out, then ignore the thread and move on. Helping by being condescending is not really helping at all.

     
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    What part does not work? If you give a specific point of where it fails, we might be able to have you try something else.
    The problem I had was Pre 5/6/7/8 did not want to work for some reason but Pre9 worked ONLY on my two Windows 7 laptops. Neither Windows XP laptops would work that I tried. Maybe there is an issue with XP or some other thing that needs to be changed that is not covered anywhere.
     
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    Do a Nandroid backup. Press and hold the power button to turn the phone off. Press and hold the volume down button and hold it, then press the power button to turn the phone on. Let go of the volume down button when you get to the screen with menu options. Using volume down, choose either BOOTLOADER then RECOVERY or simply choose RECOVERY (depending on what screen you are at, you either see bootloader or recovery, not both). and then press the power button. The phone will vibrate and change to another screen with a greenish text menu. Volume down to Nandroid and press power to select it. Make sure Backup is selected and press the power button. Wait 5 minutes or so for it to complete and then reboot by going back a screen and finding reboot.
    Get familiar with this process. You should always nandroid backup before you flash a new rom because if you don't like the new rom you can use nandriod to restore the backup you made. Do not change the names of the backup files/folders on the SD card because it will probably give you an MD5 error when you try to restore and that's another crazy long fix. The backup file will be on your SD Card in the clockworkmod folder and another folder will have the date/time stamped in it.

    Pick and choose the things you don't want. In Titanium Backup click on the Backup/Restore button on top. Then scroll through the list and find the obvious things you don't want, like Friend Stream, Amazon, NASCAR, etc. The names of the apps should make it obvious what to remove or not. Don't remove any Bluetooth stuff if you are going to use a BT headset. Don't remove any camera stuff if you are going to use the camera.

    Already covered. Don't use the Sprint Hot Spot because it won't work.

    It was a learn as you go thing for a lot of people, because like you said, there is not end all questions document with the exact process. My signature has a link to ROMS. Find one that sounds/looks cool and download the zip file provided. You might also export your contacts to your SD card. Open People, press menu and choose the right option to do this. Reboot the phone using the volume down/power button routine listed above. Remember, Nandriod backup your current ROM in case you don't like your new ROM. You should always (unless otherwise specified) wipe your phone. Once you boot into the RECOVERY screen (where you choose nandroid) select wipe data/factory reset and confirm it, then choose wipe cache partition and confirm it, then choose advanced and then choose wipe Dalvik cache. Do all these two times it you want, it won't hurt.
    After wiping all that stuff, go back a screen or two until you find 'install zip from SD card' and choose that and then choose 'choose zip from sdcard' and then find your zip file for the rom you want and confirm to flash it. Wait 5 minutes or so for it to complete and then reboot the phone. ROM flash is done.
    I put all my ROMS in a folder called ROMS on my CD card, same with radio/wimax updates and any apps for easy access and so Idon't have a bunch of files on the root of the sdcard.

    If you take it in they will know. Apparently they cannot tell remotely it is rooted, but I am not 100% sure.

    NEVER install Sprint software updates that appear on your phone if you are rooted. You can install radio, wimax or pri updates if you want/need to.

    This varies from user to user. Do a search in the market for Root and read over some you find. Some good ones are (you will need to search XDA or the market): Shootme (takes screen shots), App Brain (back up/sync apps), Titanium Backup (remove bloatware and backup stuff), Extended Controls (widget to add controls), Quadrant Standard (system test), Quick Boot (get to Bootloader in one click), ROM Manager (haven't used yet), ES File Explorer (browse sdcard and system memory), WiMAX Notifier, Wireless Tether.

    Yes, I am not sure how because I have not done it.

    We will never know them all but here are a few. ROOT means to gain access to the system/OS of your phone. ROOT is a user account (in linux, like Administrator in windows) that has access to EVERYTHING on your phone. ROM is like the O/S on your computer. SDK is the software developer kit thta helps make apps and stuff.
    I am not sure what exactly a kernel is, maybe like the BIOS of a computer, the underlying software that controls the hardware??
    Hope that helps.
     
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    harukasan73 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Both my Samsung Epic, and my Imac saw the wireless tether app, and the barnacle app, but then they couldnt find them again... okay, Im going to try it with my ipod touch, and go through step by step, every option I checked. starting with the wireless tether app: bringing up app, clicked menu, setup, use bluetooth: unchecked, dont disable wifi: checked, discoverable: checked, wifi--- enable wifi encryption: unchecked, encryption setup method and change passphrase both greyed out, change ssid: JaymesEvo, change channel: channel 01 (2412 mhz), security---- enable acess control:unchecked, lan--- change lan:192.168.2.0/24, notifications----- client notification mode: all clients, notification ringtone: silent, vibrate on connect: checked, ----miscellaneous, disable update check: unchecked, disable wake lock: checked, disable battery-temperature:unchecked--- then under menu access control:disabled

    my evo's settings:
    wireless and networks: airplane mode: unchecked, wi-fi: connected to netgear, wi-fi settings: network notification: checked, bluetooth:unchecked, bluetooth settings: device name, discoverable, scan for devices:all greyed out, sprint hotspot: unchecked (but when i check it, it says this:portable hotspot evo bce257 active), sprint hotspot settings:just comes up with a pic of a laptop and wireless modem, and if I click okay it gives me an option to turn on sprint hotspot, the router name, and security wpa (tkip) and an insanely stupid password like some idiot would put on his luggage. now when I clicked on the turn on hotspot, I get a little picture in my status bar that says tethering or hotspot active. This freaks me out because I know how sprint likes to charge you for stuff, so then I uncheck the turn on hotspot feature, because I know I didnt sign up for it... going on down the list... 4G:unchecked, vpn settings:nothing there, mobile network:unchecked, mobile networks: data roaming:unchecked, data roam guard:checked, data roaming sound:checked, enable always-on mobile:unchecked, roaming:sprint only, call guard: checked

    back to wireless tether, I press start to start tethering, menu/show log/mon sep 27 14:07:56 2010 tethering now running...done and now to check my Imac and my ipod touch

    iMac: clicked on airport/searching for networks/devices/JaymesEvo/checked JaymesEvo/Testing by bringing up google/ checking Evo: Down 0.4kb, up 0.1kb iMac says failed to open page, you are not connected to the internet. Checking Evo: down 0.4kb, up 0.1kb


    Switching to Ipod Touch: Ipod Touch/settings/wi-fi/JaymesEvo/ Testing: Safari cannot open page because it is not connected to the internet/ checking EVO Down 0.4KB, UP 0.1KB

    turning off wireless tether, and trying barnacle:

    Barnacle wifi tether:
    Menu/settings: ssid:barnacles, bssid:blank, wireless encryption:blank, access control:unchecked, channel:1 2412mhz, custom wi-fi adhoc:none, skip wpa_supplicant:unchecked, interfaces----wan:rmnet0, lan:eth0, advanced---- dhcp:lan host configuration (didnt mess with this), nat:network address translation (didnt mess with this),
    Pressing start on Barnacle:

    log: says starting...... but my wifi is off... I tried to turn it back on, but then it has shut off again... am switching to mobile network. waiting... waiting.... waiting.... omg still waiting....waiting for goodness sakes, guess I will go make some coffee, take a pee, and maybe it will connect....oh there we are! back to barnacle:

    Log: 14:30:21 Running
    Traffic: .32kb down, .35kb up
    clients: none.

    Imac: searching:nothing opened network preferences: searched some more, hand typed in network, nothing.

    ipod Touch:settings/wi-fi/nothing

    pressed associate on barnacle, checked mac and touch: nothing
    down: .32kb
    up: .93kb

    So you see my issue? I wanted to lay out all my settings, so maybe everyone can see if I am missing something. I havent found any answers as of yet. Oh and my EVO was not hooked up to my the computer nor was it charging during the tests... also I did these same tests at a restaurant (with just the samsung epic) without wifi with the same results, so I dont know where I went wrong at. thank you!
     
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    So what versions of wifi tether have you tried? Different versions work differently depending on your rom/kernel combo. If pre 9 doesn't work, try pre 8, then pre 7. I wouldn't mess with barnacle because wifi tether works wonderfully when you find what works for you. For instance, Fresh 3.2 and 3.3 with stock kernel pre 9 works great. I tried the netarchy kernal and kings kernel and I get the same results as what you describe, so I tried pre 8 and wifi tether worked great. I have since gone back to Fresh 3.3 with stock kernel and wifi tether pre 9 because I am seeing the best battery life with that set up.
     

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