Can someone tell me why we can't get a 32 or 64 gig phone?General


Last Updated: 2013-05-25 03:04:01
  1. BzB

    BzB Well-Known Member

    i'd also suspect that ignorance is bliss for most people. they don't know a 32gb version might be coming....at some point. they also probably don't need it.

    this would be an interesting poll of 16gb vs 32gb. on this forum 16gb probably would lead by a smaller margin, whereas in the real world it would lead by a more substantial margin.

    just look at the most popular apps in the market now and how the majority of consumers use their phones. all of the most popular productivity and business related apps don't use a lot of storage either. the masses just don't need a lot of storage for apps. however, there is a subset that storage capacity is very important to. the carriers must know you guys have tons of patience and will wait it out...lol.

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  2. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    After messing around more, I really want this device, but need the storage space as close to my S3 as possible. I could be definite ban-bait if VZW announces no 32GB version. I will go nuts! Gaaaaahhhhhhhh!

    Curse you, legacy unlimited data plans and great VZW 4G coverage!
  3. SpenceJT

    SpenceJT Member

    I'm in the same boat. I've currently got a 32gb GNex, which I've got loaded with applications for both work (senior level tech support) and play (father of one and techno geek extraordinaire).

    I require, at bare minimum, a 32gb replacement, but would much rather purchase a 64gb model.

    I cannot get over is the misinformation (by way of either ignorance or outright lying) from my local corporate Verizon store! The CSR argued with me that the 16gb could be expanded with the addition of up to a 64gb micro SD card, and apps moved/installed to it! I explained that they were incorrect, and asked them to stop misinforming
    customers.

    I'm with Verizon (great coverage in my area), and my local Best Buy rep swears that both the 32 & 64gb models are still planned, but could provide no date.

    I remain hopeful.
  4. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    On a positive spin, I was stuck with the G1 for almost two years until a device finally came along that fit my needs: 3.5mm headphone jack, more storage , good speed and 3G. I had to bail to VZW to get it. The 32gb S3 is a MUCH better device times ten to be "stuck" with.

    Back then HTC was trying to push the evil USB/Audio in one port instead of a dedicate 3.5mm. Now they are trying to go all Apple/Nexus with the lack of sd card.

    I think One lost sales not having the SD option and the poles that sites have done on what people want the most. That was tops followed by battery. Sure it is just a bubble view, but extrapolating just a fraction implies lost sales.

    Added:

    Oh yeah, any new word on the 32GB Verizon S4? ;) .....
  5. silentwitness

    silentwitness Well-Known Member

    i dont get why they(samsung) wont just launch the 16 and 32gb versions together and let the users choose what they want to buy like crapple does.
  6. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    The only good news is no news. Though Verizon seems to consistently mislead about app storage and the sd card, they also say they do not know on status of a 32gb version. I guess that can be good or bad, depending on perspective. . .
  7. BzB

    BzB Well-Known Member

    i can see why verizon may be slow to change their sales pitch regarding internal storage and sd card usage. if the customer has to ask then they probably don't know the difference and would never need to know the difference.

    customers who care about internal vs sd card usage for apps most likely have their answer before they even walk into the store. for that reason alone verizon may never change their pitch. ...and because they want to sell phones right now, not some point in the future. especially since there's no release time frame for the 32gb and if it's close to the iphone 5s then it will face a lot of competition.
  8. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    I will have more info (FWIW) when my buddy gets back tomorrow, but a corporate rep told me today Samsung is very constrained on supply. So much so, that is the key reason for the end of May VZW launch. They apparently can not even get enough 16gb secured to cover all their channels, so the 32gb is not exactly something of priority.

    Apparently there is not a current plan of not offering 32gb, though that could be a different story higher up the VZW ladder. I shall stick with the vague and near futile, "no news is good news" spin for now.

    Added:

    I am also going to ask why sales people keep misleading folks about expandable storage.
  9. Okapdroid

    Okapdroid Member

    I believe smartphone manufacturers (e.g. Samsung) should start producing smartphones with 1 TB of storage and make 32GB the minimum storage capacity for all future smartphone releases instead of 16GB. I know wishful dreaming. If the minimum storage capacity is 16GB on current smartphones then I can't really consider these smartphones being a miniature version of the PC. Does anyone else agree or disagree with this?
  10. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    I think 1 tb is way overkill for today's usage

    Not to mention there's probably some size constraints with that idea
  11. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    Given the size of the smallest 1 TB unit on the market and given that we still have battery tradeoffs to consider, I have to respectfully disagree - in that our technology allows for mobile devices to replace many but not all pc functions.
  12. 1080p

    1080p Well-Known Member

    HTC One 32GB is pretty nice...

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  13. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    That's great but that's not available on Verizon either.
  14. Hadron

    Hadron Well-Known Member Contributor

    @Okapdroid: how many laptops have a 1TB SSD? And what do large solid state storage devices cost?

    Leaving aside the technical issues, a quick cost estimate tells me that's not happening in the near future.
  15. Shocky

    Shocky On Probation

    Apps can only install to internal storage, so it's still important to have enough depending on the users needs of course.

    They should be moving up to 32MB minimum now imo, especially with bloatware taking up your storage.
  16. Shocky

    Shocky On Probation

    That would increase the size of the phone and power consumption quite a bit, but more importantly the price would sky rocket out of the reach of most people.
  17. Okapdroid

    Okapdroid Member


    Yes I know PCs don't have a SSD card slot but if people are complaining about data requirements when they install different apps on their phone along with the standard bloatware carriers initially install on the phone then 1TB should be justifiable for future phone releases. I know everybody uses their smartphones differently.

    Most people don't buy or utilize SSD for their PCs they buy or have a 1 TB external hard-disk drive for storage dependent upon their storage requirements.
  18. Hadron

    Hadron Well-Known Member Contributor

    "SSD" means Solid State Drive, not a mistyping of SD (apologies if that's a misreading of your post). Slim laptops these days use them instead of hard drives, but they are a lot more expensive than hard drives. 1TB would double the price and size of a high-end phone, and there'd be no point making a device like that.

    If you want to see the state of the art, in terms of size, capacity and price, check this article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6884/crucial-micron-m500-review-960gb-480gb-240gb-120gb.
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  19. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    128gb flash is feasible, but anything else is years away Edit: From being possible to put in a mass scale device due to cost and other tech issues (power consumption).

    64gb internal and sd is perfect mix for me :)

    Update:

    Apparently no 32GB are available for the Qualcomm version yet. Global launch coverage has priority over additional inventory breakouts to cover two more models per any carrier, not counting a 64GB option.

    Stress test for accuracy of this will be if At&t users get a 32GB this week or next... or the week after that......
  20. KupKrazy

    KupKrazy Well-Known Member

    Interestingly that would not work for me. I have about 54gb of music/video stored on my 64GB micro SDHC card and with a 64GB version of the HTC One, I'd be facing roughly the same thing as a 16GB GS4 since I'd have to store that on the internal memory itself.
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  21. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    Also, the One does not have external storage OTG support. Polar opposite of the S4 16gb predicament.

    Edit: Hadron points out below this is wrong. So much for my reading skills!

    I must have confused with the Nexus 10.... Yeah! That's the ticket! :)

    Not coming to VZW anyway. No harm no fou...... Ah, nevermind.
  22. Hadron

    Hadron Well-Known Member Contributor

  23. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    As we're both already using sdxc instead of sdhc cards anyway, I'd personally like to sample one of these just to see if it would work in my phone -

    Amazon.com: Lexar Professional 600x 256GB SDXC UHS-I Flash Memory Card LSD256CTBNA600: Computers & Accessories

    That said, given the time it takes to move around 64 GB for storage backups, I wouldn't be looking forward to it with that little beastie. :)
  24. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    Might be a tight fit with an SD card rather than micro SD ;)
  25. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    lmao :rofl:

    It probably comes as no surprise then that I'm constantly ordering sd cards instead of micro sd and vice versa.

    In my mind, I'm completely dyslexic with respect to the two form factors! :D

    :eek:

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