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Carrier prefix..

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  1. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    Please can we have a second prefix for carriers which is either mandatory or is automatically set based on a mandatory profile setting of carrier?

    I believe this will totally put to bed the "separate forums" arguments.

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  2. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    Literally no thoughts on this?
  3. Phases

    Phases Community Manager Administrator

    I've had no time to think about this at all the past couple weeks, and probably won't a bit more. It has been all go..

    Are you suggesting in the phone forums a second set of prefixes being required to tell your carrier?
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  4. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    I appreciate you're busy. I was more hoping other members would have had something to say about the request.

    But yes, that's it. everyone keeps asking to separate the phone forums and it's doing by head in. ..and you've said it will be the death of you too.

    If it was a requirement to apply a second prefix that was a carrier, and it could be filtered - I think it would stop all these arguments.

    1) The people who want a split to look at just their stuff, can filter by Verizon / Sprint / etc

    2) Those who want to see everything, regardless of carrier, don't have to go into 45 million sub forums to see it.

    I believe as it is, we will never hear the end of the argument. As detrimental as I think splitting the forums would be, leaving it as it is is not entirely perfect either.
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  5. PyroSporker

    PyroSporker Well-Known Member

  6. treb1797

    treb1797 Well-Known Member

    Anything that can help reduce the confusion especially in the Galaxy S3 forums for example would be a great idea. Thanks SU for this I think it would be very beneificial.
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  7. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    The only issue I see is people being forced to prefix. If it could pre populate based on a profile field, that would be great.
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  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven -.. --- - / -.. .- ... .... Moderator

    This is something I proposed when the GNex forum merge was being discussed. Just figured I'd raise it here as food for though in this conversation.

    The quote is a little disjointed as it doesn't include the quotes I was responding too, so here is a link to the actual post in case any of it doesn't make sense.

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  9. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    The consolidated prefix would be easier to implement. Though you wouldn't be able to just sort the carrier and see tips, support and general at the same time... but if it helps implementation, its certainly better than what we have now
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  10. Flumme

    Flumme Well-Known Member

    I like this idea! Double prefixes is the best option on the user side of things IMHO.
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  11. lennydude

    lennydude Well-Known Member

    I am a BIG promoter for the second set of prefixes. Really..............look at the simple camera click sound issue...........

    Other forums have done this and are very nice to read. Tips, tricks and other issues will not disappear due to this.

    My humble opinion only....................lol
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  12. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    Can we please think about this some more?
  13. Flumme

    Flumme Well-Known Member

    I'm still 100% behind this idea!
  14. Phases

    Phases Community Manager Administrator

    I do like the idea behind this so don't let it die, but I honestly can't even think about it right now. What exactly is the proposal?

    Have a setting in user profile asking who their carrier is, and make that mandatory? Little hard core right there, I'm not sure I like that.

    But, optional I guess might help still.

    I'm also not sure I like making it mandatory to pick a carrier when making a thread. Optional, again, isn't so bad, but .. anway. I do hear ya and the frustrations, believe me I hear the frustrations. But I'm not sure I'm down with making anything mandatory.
  15. sammyz

    sammyz LG Whiz Kid Guide

    The proposal is to add a prefix in a new thread.

    First prefix:
    Second prefix:

    I think the second prefix should still have general categories (GSM/CDMA/None) just in case something applies to all phones regardless of carrier.

    @SU, this is your idea right?
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  16. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    Yep pretty much. I understand not wanting to make it mandatory but if it wasn't mandatory, we'd have to do an educational piece in it and sell it to people.

    If we could set optional to put carrier in the profile which then automatically prefixed a thread, unless over ruled - that would be good maybe.

    Or just a pop up or screen before they post asking them to think about selecting a prefix or something?

    Any other ideas welcome. As I'm sure lennydude will tell you, it can be frustrating going into a thread not knowing if its relevant, particularly "got and update today" threads.
  17. sammyz

    sammyz LG Whiz Kid Guide

    Guides and mods are usually here to fix prefixes :thumbup: but really there should be an announcement if this does happen.
  18. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    Phases, any thoughts on this?

    I thought Given people are already adding their carriers to their profiles as prer http://androidforums.com/suggestion-box-feedback/645504-suggestion-box-carrier-our-profile.html

    It would be great if we could see that auto-populate in the thread title somehow after the existing prefix or something....

    "[Support] [VZW] Signal problems"

    ...and Maybe like signatures, there could be an exclude tick box at the bottom of post.

    It would just be great to see at a glance if someones thread "Wheres my update" became "[VZW] Wheres my update"

    Further to that, have it filterable.
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  19. PyroSporker

    PyroSporker Well-Known Member

    I'm all for a carrier prefix. And have been from the start. I think it would be really helpful for devices that cross carrier lines or are international.

    Personally I think it should be like the current prefixes though and be a separate table category and not directly affixed to the topic title, OR if attached, be a "postfix" rather than a prefix. It would be nice as a "postfix" so as to not take away from the ease of reading the topic at hand.

    Reading left to right I can determine the topic easily and then figure out the carrier and decide if the topic is applicable to me. I may want to read the topic anyway even if it is a different carrier and participate in the discussion or try to provide assistance. Even with different carriers, there is often quite a bit of carry over between the obvious differences. (rather than filter/dismiss a topic because it does not match my carrier - I think we should strive to be in-clusive rather than ex-clusive)

    I hate going into root driven boards because of the over use of custom prefixes and symbols. It makes the topics overall harder to read. It is not pleasing to the eye to go into a board and see a wall of prefixes with actual topic hidden beneath it all
    [Date][Device][ROM][version number][S-OFF]{method}**xXclaim to of famed goofy nameXx** etc. etc. ad naseum.

    I apologize for the cross threading here, but along with the topic you linked, I identified some of the possible issues I see with using a carrier prefix system in this thread: AndroidForums.com | Suggestion box - Click through in devices selection
    Not everyone is populating the carrier area of their profile. I for one WILL NOT be putting my carrier in that spot. As it is now, I think there are way too many variables at hand to easily auto-populate thread titles with prefix/postfix/device names based on the user provided carrier/device data. Just my opinion though
  20. Phases

    Phases Community Manager Administrator

    Well, we did put the carrier option in your User CP that should then show up on your posts under your avatar. Assuming people filled that out, would it accomplish the same thing?

    I really hate to add too much bloat to the process and a site wide change like that is pretty daunting.

    <-- carrier
  21. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    It has helped, but a lot of members still have/leave this field blank unfortunately.
  22. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    My idea is now (see my last post) to incorporate that carrier from user cp into the thread title. Its not very useful as it is for those of us who frequent here on tapatalk
  23. Phases

    Phases Community Manager Administrator

    Oh I see. Yeah we have a large number of things TT doesn't incorporate. I don't know. I feel where you're going with this it's just.. already so information overload here. To have a carrier prefix on every thread here. I don't know, in most/many forums it would be really annoying. We'll get complaints. "Why do I have to see "(Verizon)" on every single thread?"
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  24. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    Tapatalk does display the carrier info if you look at the profile of the member. Granted this is annoying and assuming they fill it out. Probably gets borderline intrusive to have that field be mandatory in order to sign up, not to mention getting current members to fill it out hasn't proved to be swift either.
  25. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    I'm not asking it even to be mandatory. Remember guys, this is my idea for the massive headache that is different hardware devices not having different general forums.

    Now we all know I don't want separate forums but people do need to be able to easily identify if a thread is relevant or not. I really don't see the argument of opening every thread and then the ops profile just to ascertain the relevance.

    This will please those who want separate forums and to be honest, if we don't start doing something to identify hardware separation with the forums, i'll regretfully have to switch sides and back the separate forums idea as much as I don't want them, we need something.

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