As an Android user, I am rather dismayed that someone of your caliber and lack of knowledge is out there defending our devices to Apple fans.
Because I've only posted 9 things on
this board under
this name you assume I'm uneducated in the matter? Very intuitive. And since all I've done is ask questions which no one else can answer, either, makes me an idiot. Very narrow-minded of you. Maybe I only came to this board because other boards couldn't answer the questions I asked, and maybe I forgot the password I used for my previous account on this board because I hadn't been here in a while and use multiple different, complicated passwords, and, with my normal account name taken, I just used a random, easily remembered login name and password for me.
You're flat out wrong on this one. The fact is, no one knows for sure, and no one will know for sure until the iPhone 5 is released. It could be June or it could be October, in either case, I have no issues waiting.
If you read properly, I said
based on previous releases, which the most recent release was released 4 months later than expected, and it's doubtful they'd put anything out in less than a year of time. That's the model they
generally work under: minimum 1 year apart, however it was always previously in June. They may go back to the June release, but as you said, "no one will know for sure," so we'll have to wait and see. And since people are unsure of the screen size, "no one will know for sure." If you do a Google search, every post says "RUMOR" as part of the title. Rumor meaning "no one will know for sure until the iPhone 5 is released." Don't say it will when "no one will know for sure."
As for waiting, that's fine if it's what you really want to do. I just said I couldn't wait that long.
Sorry, but "yawn"... the iPhone 4/4s might have had issues at launch, but guess what? Those problems were addressed and handled within weeks (including the battery issue). That's one thing I like about Apple, they pour their attention into one phone and have a great deal of quality control. If there is a problem, it will likely be addressed and corrected in a timely fashion. You can't say the same for any Android phone, they are so fragmented that you'll be lucky if a single issue is even acknowledged, let alone fixed. As for this "openess" that Android has... yeah, it's great, but it also leads to problems and lack of quality control in many cases.
Yes, they only have one new phone and tablet come out per year, which gives them less to worry about, but I pointed out that their newest models are the ones that have had the most launch issues. While they may be faster at fixing it, it's simply because they only have the one new phone, no variety. Closed system. If they decide not to support it one day, or they have a deal-breaking bug, you have no other new phone you can go to in that family. You pay the price they want for it and have no comparison. Sure, you think the 4" screen is the sweet spot, but for some people they like bigger, some people like smaller. One size does not fit all.
Sorry, but that's just not true. Just about every Android user I know has to compromise with battery life in some form or another. My case has nothing to do with what apps I leave running either... give me a break. I'm not an idiot, so don't talk to me like one and assume you're bestowing me with your wisdom on battery conservation. I have Ultimate Juice installed, bluetooth and wifi turned off the majority of the time, and I'm still lucky if I can make it through most of the day without my phone dying on me. I have friends who have other Android devices who fare better than me, but it's still a universal complaint.
I went across country, over 800 miles in about 12 hours, when I was still on Froyo's bad battery life. After fully charging my battery, using 3G and GPS the whole day and with the screen on half the time texting and looking at directions, and having been talking on the phone for a while during the last part of the trip, I was down to 17% battery, which easily lasted me until I went to bed to charge it a few hours later. When I did the same thing on Gingerbread at Thanksgiving, I was at 43%. Now I think that's pretty good. Under regular use if I can get 1.5-2 days on Froyo and a full day awake under heavy use, and much better on Gingerbread, there big problem cannot be all on the hardware/software side. Here's a "technical" term for you: PICNIC, since PEBCAK doesn't generally apply.
If you did a little research, the official specs of the Incredible list talk time at
up to just over 5 hours and standby time at
up to 6 days. They don't guarantee more than 5 hours of heavy use. They don't guarantee anything but a maximum, no minimum. If all you do is talk on the phone, you're bound to burn through your battery very quickly. If you don't talk more than half an hour on the phone per day and just use battery-hogging features when you need them, you shouldn't have a problem. Now, I know every device is different, but before buying a phone you should read the specs on it. If you wear your battery out in less than a day, there's something wrong with you using it or the ROM you have on it.
Again, it's glaringly apparent that you don't know a thing about what you're talking about. Next time you attempt to debate someone on this topic, at least try doing a bit of research before you pretend you know something. The screen size of the next iPhone will be 4", which for most is the sweet spot. I guess it's too much work for you to actually try and be informed on the other side of an argument because if you do even a basic Google search, you'll see that a 4" iPhone has been in the works for some time now. It's the same size as the Incredible 2 and I find that phone to be just right in terms of screen size. I find anything bigger than that to be over the top and there are many other Incredible users here that agree with me on that point.
Whole thing already been summed up. RUMOR. "4 inch iPhone screen" - Google it. No guarantees. You said it yourself. Stop being a contradictory hypocrite. The government told people in the mid-20th century that we would all have flying cars and jetpacks by now, so where's my damn jetpack? No guarantees. While it's entirely possible they will put one out with a slightly larger screen, we don't know that for sure, you said it yourself.
Unlike you, I actually do exhaustive research when purchasing a product like a phone, so I like to be armed with real information rather than speculation and arrogance.
Exhaustive research into rumors. Nice. Speculation? Nice. I'm not speculating on anything, I'm giving personal experience with the Incredible, which is on par, if not better, than most others I've read. As for future devices, we can only speculate, which you are doing saying the iPhone
will have a 4" screen. As for not doing research into a device before I buy it, that's all I do for weeks before I buy anything. Before my last contract came to an end, I knew I wanted an Android phone, so I researched for the best one available, and obviously came upon the Incredible, which had been out for a couple months. It was due for an update to Froyo and had the best specs and good track record, and after weeks of looking for anything on par with it, that's what I bought. You are waiting and hoping that rumors will be true and the iPhone will be better, which is your business, but there will never be a perfect phone. While I see the point in waiting and hoping for something better, it's not a choice I would make, given the problems almost every device has at launch and trying to deal with that.
Look at the Transformer Prime tablet that just came out. Huge expectation, now there are issues with it that makes a lot of people who research it not want it. I know several people who have cancelled their pre-orders or returned it and are going to wait until CES to make a decision on what to get next.
And I agree, maybe "brainwashed" is too strong a word. Converted, maybe?
Life is full of disappointments, which include devices not living up their potential and the hype they receive. If innovation doesn't die, there will never be an "end all, be all" device. I don't expect any device to be perfect. There's always room for improvement. I've used multiple computers over the last 25 years, including the Apple II, Macintosh, and iMac, and many of Apple's mobile devices, and have experience with the iPhone that was impressive, at first, for a phone, but, in my opinion, doesn't hold a candle to Android. I have never owned an Apple product, either, simply because I don't care enough for it. The sheer customizability of Android alone makes it better than iOS. If your carrier or phone producer doesn't feel like updating your phone, you have a community full of helpful people that will fix your problem and make your device even better. For example, Google took several ideas from Cyanogenmod when they released ICS, along with ideas from several apps on the marketplace. The features CM developed improved the Android experience and increased the popularity of developers making their own mods and ROMs to enhance Android for their devices. It's been 3 months since iPhone 4S and iOS 5.0 was released. Where's their jailbreak? The Galaxy Nexus was rooted in days with ICS. Apple is determined to make iOS less open and prevent jailbreaking, unlike how Google and many producers like HTC are open to modding now.
Android isn't perfect, but in many ways it's better than iOS. Sure, iOS has features that Android doesn't, and has a more streamlined update process, but I'd rather get an fix for a problem in a week from the community than a few weeks from the phone's developer who, with only one new device to focus on, should have fixed it sooner. Sure, it took until November 2011 to get the Incredible up to Gingerbread by HTC and Verizon, but CM had it on Gingerbread almost immediately upon CM7's release. It wasn't perfect, but it was damn sure better than 9 months of waiting for HTC's 2.3.4.
Ashley
I feel like I should wait for announcements though.
