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    'Don't taze my granny!' American police accused of using a Taser on an 86-year-old, bed-ridden grandmother



    By Mail Foreign Service
    Last updated at 6:35 PM on 26th June 2010


    American police have been accused of tasering an 86-year-old bed-ridden grandmother.
    Lonnie Tinsley called the emergency services to his home in El Reno, Oklahoma, when he became concerned that his grandma Lona Vernon had failed to take her medication.
    But instead of a medical technician, he claims at least a dozen armed police officers answered his call.

    [​IMG] Police in El Reno, Oklahoma, have been accused of tasering an 86-year-old grandmother

    When Mrs Vernon ordered the police from her house, officer Thomas Duran allegedly decided she was being 'aggressive' and gave the order: 'Taser her.'
    Her alarmed garndson, is then said to have replied: 'Don't taze my granny!'
    According to a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court, Tinsley
     

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  2. warren99

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    Wow! it is really mind blowing to see this...
     
  3. ddoolin

    ddoolin Well-Known Member

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    "Don't taze my granny!"

    Sounds like a troll...wth.
     
  4. carmendiva

    carmendiva Well-Known Member

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    oh that is awful if true
     
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    carmendiva Well-Known Member

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    chrlswltrs Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't surprise me at all. Most pigs are people who were bullied as kids, now they get a feeling of power and want to be a bully
     
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    I'd like to know more.... And assuming it was true, find out the result of the lawsuit.

    @chrlswltrs: I know plenty of cops, none of them are bullies. I work in a small city, and they are tested every night placing themselves in danger to keep the peace in some ridiculous situations involving knives, guns, brute violence and don't look for grannys to taze.
     
  9. mpw

    mpw Well-Known Member

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    Both of the cops I could claim to actually know, are corrupt (and kinda dumb) one in particular took great delight in telling me a story about using CS gas on a minor; by provoking a situation whereby he could do so without fear of charge, but still used gas at a point he could've walked away with no harm being done.

    I'm sure there are good cops out there, but all the cops I have dealings with have been absolutely awful at their jobs. I'm yet to find one who didn't enter 'service' for something other than money.

    Personally I'm distrustful of the Police by default, so even if this story's been sensationalized by the media/lawyers for their own purposes, I'm inclined to accept that the Police did either cause or provoke these events.
     
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    I never had trouble with the law
    but i do not like cops at al
     
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    you know for all the sh!t i hear talked about how cops are pigs and have power issues because they were bullied as kids normally are those with the least amount of respect shown towards them and the jobs they do...

    last night there were three police officers shot in a drug bust, 1 killed, two injured with one of the injured still in critical condition. i wonder how many people would be willing to go out and deal with a general public many of whom have no respect for the job they do and put their life on the line on a daily basis.
     
  13. Roxors

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    i used to not like cops but i have sence realized that the majority of them are my friends. They shouldn't be looked down upon because they make others follow the rules. Given some laws are dumb but thats what congress and politics are for.
     
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    Agreed. There's a lot of good cops and plenty of bad as well. No different than any other profession.
     
  15. mpw

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    Few other professions get to carry offensive weapons.
     
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    and even few other professions have to deal with the variety of garbage and disrespect police officers do on a daily bases nor do they have to deal with the level of scrutiny officers go though... :rolleyes:
     
  17. mpw

    mpw Well-Known Member

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    Respect and disrespect are earned.

    I'm not saying there aren't good officers, but the vast majority I've dealt with have been bad, very bad at times. Unfortunately by wearing a uniform you get tarred with the same brush when your colleagues do your reputation a disservice; the best way to regain your reputation is to come down hard on your colleagues that do the job badly, but in my experience this doesn't happen. Police close ranks, and refuse to believe(or more likely do believe, but choose to ignore) anything bad about other police.
     
  18. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    O heres's what I'm taking from the general consensus of this thread. Its ok to generalize cops and lump them into a group, but not ok to lump people who dress, look, or act a certain way? Where's the equality in that? Another case of the almighty double standard. Its ok to profile cops, but not people who dress like street thugs.

    But at any rate, the cops here abused their power and could have easily subdued this lady if even needed, without a taser. Shame on them.
     
  19. mpw

    mpw Well-Known Member

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    I think the difference is that street thugs don't wear a uniform in the same sense as the Police. Street thugs can't be corrupt or abuse their power in the same way that the Police, in my experience, do.

    Street thugs are thugs because they do wrong, or they'd just be 'people', not thugs. I don't assume somebody's going to be a thug just because of how they dress, but if a Policeman pulls me over I can be pretty sure, based on experience, he's going to be a power abusing cock.
     
  20. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Come spend a week in chicago and pass through the not so nice areas. You'd be surprised how quickly you start profiling people for your own saftey.
     
  21. mpw

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    I've heard the same said of London and LA, but I've spent time in both and didn't feel the same fear/oppression in either; maybe Chicago is full of obvious and dangerous stereotypes, or maybe people 'profile' needlessly through fear/paranoia.

    Have you experienced repeated instances of actual, not perceived, danger on which you base your profiling, or is it just based on assumption of stereotypes?
     
  22. chrlswltrs

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    No one ever complains when people say all car salesmen are just trying to rip them off and wont just be honest with a salesman. I sold cars for 3 years. Buying a car is completely pain free and easy if people don't think of a car salesman as the enemy. Most car salesmen are honest hard working people and just want to make their customers happy and not rip them off. There are bad salesman that give the majority of salesmen a bad reputation.

    The difference is if you run into a bad salesman you just leave and go somewhere else. You run into a bad cop and you are lucky if you are proven innocent after paying a lawyer several thousand dollars to prove that you are innocent. Does the officer that lied and falsified his report and statements have to reimburse you for your attorney, NO. If they were held financially responsible for their curruptness instead of the innocent person they are lying about I bet there would be a lot less corrupt police officers!!
     
  23. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Let's see, I've been shot at multiple times, almost robbed twice, chased, threatened, hell I've even had to run someone over who tried to rob me in a white castle drive thru by knife point.

    My brothers been robbed on a public train by two guys, no weapon in sight though.

    My dad now carries two guns on his person at all times, law or no law. But he has the money to pay any fines if caught, and he is a business owner who frequently carries large sums of money to and from banks etc, so he has some lienency there. I carry a small hand arm in my vehicle at certain times, and it leaves with me on my person in a "fanny pack" specifically designed to circumvent the anti-handgun bans.

    Yet there are gangbangers and the like who carry guns all day, illegally purchased, and use them quite frquently. We have one of the highest gun related crime rates in the nation, yet have the strictest anti-gun laws in the land.(soon to be repealed by the federal government). Yet, in places that have both open and concealed carry, still remain among the lowest in gun related crimes, be it murder, armed robbery, and the like.

    Cops here are shot and killed or injured on a regular basis, most of the time with guns illegally obtained from outside the country. And I'm sure anyone from chicago on this forum cab completely corroborate what I'm saying here. The police profile certain peole for a reason, because it is these people that are more often that not that are involved in these horrible crimes, and the statistics reflect that. You can't argue with hard cold facts. Even though blacks are among the lowest of the poulation in the country, they reflect the highest amount of violent criminal offenders. Now obviously not all blacks are like this, and my very educated black friends actually despise people lik this, because it makes them look bad. My black friends hate ghetto's more than anyone I know. And they have been on the receiving end of profiling, and yes they are collateral damage so to speak, but they understand why it is that way, and hate the people that are the source of the stereotype than the ones who follow the stereotype. If it smells, and feels like an orange, what do you think it will taste like?
     
  24. mpw

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    Sounds like a real shit-hole compared to most cities in Europe, and those I've visited in the US, Asia and Australasia.

    I think I'd move if I had the opportunity, rather than live anywhere where I had to live in such fear. I wonder what makes a society so uncivilized, and I wonder what effects it has on the generations growing up amongst such violence and barbarism; surely it must skew the views of the citizens from being tolerant and inclusive when faced with such lawlessness??
     
  25. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Its not really lawlessness, its a perpetual cycle of abuse and abusers, which the chain must be broken. The police here do what they can, and they earn their money.sometimes even pay with their lives.

    I'm am stuck here due to all the money I make, an my family makes is tied here, this is our base of operations, where the majority of our customers are.. so we need to be here. If that thether wasn't in place, id be gone in aheartbeat. Maybe Arizona =). But for now, I live in a nicer suburb and that will have to do.
     

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