Dang. 11 years


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  1. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I didn't really notice it until I got to work and saw the flags at half staff. Hard to believe it's been 11 years.

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  2. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    I saw more news about Catalan National day stuff than 9/11 things. No offence but its kind of nice. It was a good while ago and times have to move on.
  3. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Osama bin Laden exploited a weakness in security, Bush family's close business and personal relationship with the Saudi royal family, which is why 15 of 19 hijackers held Saudi passports. If you were security, you better have a damn good reason to interfere with a Saudi passport holder under the Bush regime.

    Interesting, "Bin Laden also said only the restoration of Sharia law would "set things right" in the Muslim world, and that alternatives such as "pan-Arabism, socialism, communism, democracy" must be opposed.[46] " Just substitute biblical for Sharia; Christian for Muslim; Internationalism for pan-Arabism and you have the right wing.

    "Bin Laden's overall strategy against much larger enemies such as the Soviet Union and United States was to lure them into a long war of attrition in Muslim countries, attracting large numbers of jihadists who would never surrender. He believed this would lead to economic collapse of the enemy nation.[69] Al-Qaeda manuals clearly outline this strategy. In a 2004 tape broadcast by al-Jazeera, bin Laden spoke of "bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy".[70] "

    Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  4. Bren S.

    Bren S. Well-Known Member

    Bin Laden and his ilk were and are mass murderers, and pure evil.
    Their so called faith is barbaric.
    I for one will never forget 9/11, and it is my solemn hope that no Americans ever forget.
  5. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Well... you know the Old Testament is shared between Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
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  6. Bren S.

    Bren S. Well-Known Member

    Ok why don't you go tell the Muslims all about how their "faith" is in any way connected to Christianity.
    ps make sure to protect your head when you do lmao
  7. jhtalisman

    jhtalisman Well-Known Member Contributor

    You aren't very tolerant of other religions are you? I assume you believe in the 1st amendment, but yet when it comes to another religion other than christianity of any of it's branches, which there are hundreds of, it's "barbaric"?

    It's rhetoric such as that that makes Muslims targeted and discriminated against in our own country.

    And just fyi, there are numerous barbaric acts and commands in the bible, however, the believers in the holy bible have at least mostly evolved.
  8. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    This country never learns. My grandfather fought in WWII, won the Medal of Honor and came home to face immense discrimination just because he was Asian. The fact that he was a war hero and wasn't Japanese at all didn't matter. He was Asian and that was enough. Now we see that same kind of bias and bigotry being directed toward Muslims. Same thing. Different target. Nothing changes I guess. That is what is sad.
  9. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are inextricably linked. Did you not do this in school?

    I know Muslims. Muslims consider Judaism, Christianity and Islam as "Religions of the book". While Spain was butchering Jews and Muslims, Christians and Jews were profiting under the Sunni Muslim Ottomons, even bribing officials to have their sons made into servants of the Emperor, and enjoy low rates of taxation.
  10. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, my uncle was a Marine flame thrower (now deceased) who served in Iwo Jima. He killed a lot of people and he survived, but never recovered.


    My father financially supported him and his family for the last ten years of his life. Those that are in combat, War ****S you up.
  11. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    I have heard that those who carried flame throwers are a special kind of f***ed up after their experience. With bullets you can kill from a distance and may not even see the people you kill. You may simply wound them and they die later in some field hospital. Mortars you don't see the people you kill at all. Flame throwers you are up close since it's a short range weapon and you see/hear people die painfully. It messes with your head.

    I honestly have no idea what my grandfather did in the war. He won't talk about it to this day and he's nearly 90. My dad said he never talked about it when they were kids and my grandmother says he has never talked about it with her and they've been married 60+ years. War is hell on those who die, those who survive and those who love those who survive.
  12. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    It even worse when its taboo to talk about your time at war. I had a great grandfather who served in the British Army during WWI, and his son served in the merchant navy during WWII. Neither could talk about it due to the ridiculous anti-British mentality. Must be the similar for those who served in the German army during WWII.

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