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  1. inte

    inte New Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hi
    since Android is pretty much Open Source I really wonder if there is an App applicable that will allow users to either enable or disable Google's remote software removal mechanism.
    I would prefer to control by myself which software is installed on my phone (or if I whish to allow Google to access my phone).
    Thanks on any hints how to disable remote access to Android phones!
     

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  2. Chroma

    Chroma Well-Known Member

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    custom rom is your only really option, or airplane mode & wifi off.

    You do realize the only software Google removed were malicious programs, right? As for allowing Google access to your phone, almost all smartphones have this. (Android, Apple iOS, and WM7)
     
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    inte New Member This Topic's Starter

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    I'm currently using a Nokia N900 which does not seem to come with such an option, at least I'm not aware of that. But since its basically based on Debian, I hardly doubt that Nokia is able to remotely install or remove software. I haven't heard about such a feature in Symbian either, but I'm really sure that Apple is very accurately watching their iphones and I could imaging something similar to come for M$ as well (even though I never heard about that in WiMo 6 yet).
    Your statement that allmost all smartphones have the security disadvantatge that the manufacturer can remotely remove or install software does NOT make this feature better or necessary, anyway.
    I wouldn't mind having this feature activated deliberately, but not mandatory.
    I've learned that Google's hidden remote software install/remove service is based on Google talk. Wouldn't it be enough to just disable Gtalk and maybe block the Gtalk ports with a firewall?
    It would be definitely nicer if one could control this service through an official Google Android App, though.
     
  4. KlaymenDK

    KlaymenDK Well-Known Member

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    It's the principle of it, which I can well and truly understand. :cool: Who are they to judge what I want on my phone? :mad:

    Also, I have to say, airplane mode is not a solution (or perhaps too much of a solution). The ideal thing would be a firewall, but knowing what to block -- aye, there's the rub!
     
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    inte New Member This Topic's Starter

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    The thing is: If google is removing "malicious" software today, when will the next company (e.g. Apple) start to remove e.g. unlicensed MP3's?
     
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    I felt the need to comment on this thread now that remote software installs can be performed via the android market website.

    I have found 2 ways to stop the remote installs.

    First: If you download droidwall and deny access to the download manager it does appear to stop remote installs. The downside? you cannot install market place apps or even download files from the internet without allowing the download manager access.

    Second: Turn off the Background data feature. Downside? cannot use the market or have gmail autosync and a whole bunch of other stuff i cant think of at the moment.

    why do i say this on a thread about the app "kill switch"

    well its simple. while i do not like the idea that google has so much control over removing applications i feel that remote installs represent a much greater threat.

    i do not know of a simple way to stop the app kill switch. perhaps an iptables rule to block the gtalk connection? this might have ramifications i do not realize.
     
  7. DePhoegon

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    I don't see this happening with Devices that have android. Granted they could, but there isn't a real way to tell if an MP3 is not authorized, when android devices *tablets* can act as media centers and are designed to drop music/video right onto it. Google would have to up and change android completely for this to happen.

    Though I could see apple doing this with iOS products, as the Ipod is already fully encrypted to the point where you can't even leave your own music on it, outside having Itunes drop it in, and it isn't to far stretched that their Iphones and Ipads * lazy ****ing names honestly* will be encrypted by default so only certain programs can open/view the file structure of the device, preventing the need to remove any file that wasn't placed in there by an apple program.

    Besides, that's what gave the PSP, 3rd party MP3 players, & ealier android tablets/smartphones the edge on the market *despite the ipods being tech better* was the fact that they didn't allow anything on there that Itunes didn't put it self. It's hurting apple, and now there is android for iOS devices? really, as if apple is slowly becoming some hardware designer.
     
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    Do ya know of a way to stop Google Play from remote uninstalling. I don't mind the feature, but I'd like a password or pattern prompt if the device is secured with an applocker on it. I know they'd have to be logged in, but I'd prefer there wouldn't be an easy way to by-pass install/removal/app launching security.

    I don't mind remote installs so much as I mind removals without checkinging if there is a security measure in place.
     
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    350X Well-Known Member

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    if you got a back up program like titanium back up or root uninstaller, or for non root app tyrant or apk extractor , you always have a back up of your programs.

    And Ive never had google add or remove anything, even things I got a refund on, I had to uninstall them. Google never did.
     

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