Do you guys think that the Razr will be the next "Droid X"

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  1. LifeVirusZERO

    LifeVirusZERO New Member

    Well, as most users who got their DX on launch day, I am due for an upgrade in less than two weeks. My DX has been giving me problems lately, regardless of which ROM I'm on. Laggy keyboard, horrible battery life (easy fix, I know), wi-fi issues, also my screen is messed up (may have gotten water underneath possibly). Anyway, I'm surprised that I've even had the phone for this long without breaking it or losing it.

    I was always glad I went with this phone because it got a lot of attention from the developer community and I also didn't feel that it was outdated quickly. The main phone that I'm looking at is the Razr MAXX. I've played with the regular Razr and thought it was pretty awesome. I am disappointed that it doesn't have a 720p screen like the GNex, but I still think the screen looks amazing (and it's still a higher resolution than my DX). I do like the Gnex, but after seeing the MAXX with such a huge battery, it feels like a rip-off going with a phone with a smaller battery.

    So anyway, do you feel like the Razr/MAXX would be the best option right now for people that really loved their Droid X? I know that ultimately I have to make up my own mind, but it's really difficult at this point, haha. Do you guys see great ROMs like Liberty in the future? Will it be outdated soon in your opinion? It will be really hard to wait, but is there anything else (officially announced) on the horizon that might be an even better option?

  2. ZeroOne

    ZeroOne Guest

    battery pulls/locked boot loaders,boot loops oh my.
    really if your a modder ya knows better to get a razr and hell not its a DX
    do not insulate the DX with that statement plz.
    i am not judging just saying my opinions
    there's bigger size batteries for the Gnexus
  3. PACAnesFan

    PACAnesFan Well-Known Member

    As a former X owner, I struggled with the same questions as yourself. I ended up getting a white RAZR. Why? Here are some of my reasons for the RAZR.

    1. Form factor. I like the thinness of it. And it's white. :)
    2. New Blur is pretty decent. It is a good out of the box solution.
    3. Build quality: the RAZR feels better. At the VZW store, the GNex actually fell apart in my hand. The battery cover popped off of the back.
    4. Radio. At the VZW store, the display GNex couldn't browse data using 4G. The RAZR could. Regardless of reason, that was a big turn off. Even after rebooting, the GNex simply couldn't pull a 4G signal and the RAZR could.
    5. Battery isn't great; but the MAXX would be the ticket here. Of course, I've learned never to go anywhere without a charger. And I've learned to never leave the house without a full charge.
    As far as regrets about the RAZR

    1. Rooting/ROMing. Even though I really didn't do this any more on the X, a part of me misses it. I got tired of wiping everything and starting over. Also, I worry about device security. Do you REALLY know what you are flashing on your phone?
    2. GNex screen is better. Is it THAT much better? That is up to you do decide. I personally am not worried about 720p on a device.
    3. The GNex updates from Google. This is a BIG one for me. That was the biggest trade off in getting the RAZR.
    These are just my opinons. To sum it up, if you want an 'out of the box' solution, RAZR/MAXX. If you are into rooting/ROMing, go GNex.
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  4. timelord65

    timelord65 Well-Known Member

    Former DX user here. I loved the X, but went with galaxy nexus. It's an awesome phone, and you can unlock the bootloader. All the great rom makers that made roms for the DX have already made terrific roms for the Gnex.

    For those of you that love custom roms, the gnex is the only way to go. Ics gets regular updates, Get the razr and wait months to get any update at all.

    Razr is a nice phone, looks much like the X but much thinner.
  5. Martimus

    Martimus One bite at a time... Moderator

    Well I have a somewhat different perspective on your question. Personally I think the Razr/Razr Maxx are much more solid smartphones than the Galaxy Nexus.

    Last time I played with a GNex, I found build quality to be somewhat lacking. As was mentioned above, it's rather disturbing when the battery cover falls off the phone. In terms of radios, there are few equals to a Motorola radio. The GNex radio sometimes struggles where the Razr radio is solid. Is this the case 100% of the time? No but updates from Google likely won't improve the radio beyond the limitations of it's hardware.

    In terms of rom'ing, the GNex is a better choice. If you aren't planning to load alternative ROM's then it's a toss up. I saw mention of more frequent updates to the GNex, this is true but if you are running a custom ROM it is also not applicable.

    Since purchasing my Razr I think I've already seen two updates from Motorola. I don't think I've read about a significantly larger number of GNex updates, to date.

    If you are wanting the newest OS out of the box, then the GNex is your choice since it's already running ICS. I suspect that the Razr/Razr Maxx will see ICS in the next couple of months. By fall Jelly Bean will be out and both phones will be behind the OS curve.

    Personally I'd suggest just going to your local Verizon store and playing with each phone that interests you. How does it sound? How does it feel in your hand? Does it do the things that you want it to do? Base your decisions more on your personal list of requirements and less on what others say about their phone of choice. ;)
  6. timelord65

    timelord65 Well-Known Member

    yeah but Gnex has ics, The razr will get ics, but when? Obviously the razr had updates for GB and the gnex for ics. Big difference.

    Again if your a die hard android fan, right now the gnex is the best choice. well In my opinion at least.
  7. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    i went from a DX to the G Nex.

    I don't think i will ever own another Locked down Android device. The G Nex has it's share of issues however i'll take those any day to have vanilla android.
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  8. VoidedSaint

    VoidedSaint Resident Ninja VIP Member

    ^^ completely agree, after having a google flagship device, and a device that isnt locked down, i will never own another moto device, unless it is confirmed to have an unencrypted bootloader, and can either be locked or unlocked. that is all i care about. forget the days of encrypted bootloaders, im here for open devices
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  9. ylexot

    ylexot Well-Known Member

    When it comes to the question of if the RAZR is the "next DX", I'd say it depends. When it comes to developer support, I'd say no. When it comes to general popularity, I'd say yes.

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  10. skywriter

    skywriter Member

    I recently moved from the X to Razr (not the Maxx). I loved my X but the Razr has really grown on me. I'm enjoying the change and glad I made it. I think the Razr will be around for awhile, so that would be my choice.
  11. Napalm

    Napalm Well-Known Member

    depends on what you mean.

    Is the razr the next high end large high res screen, fastest touchscreen device for Motorola? Then yes, it most certainly is

    If you mean it will have a series of software loads, and still get support 2 years later on, then again, yes it is.

    If you mean it will be supported by the mod community for roms, well sadly probably not. and maybe that's not a bad thing. as much as I rom'd my DX. I have been stock for quite some time now.

    as far as build quality, I think they upped it a bit.
  12. Martimus

    Martimus One bite at a time... Moderator

    That, my friend, is the key! Android is all about choice. And some of us happily choose rock solid hardware over un-encrypted bootloaders... :cool:

    Sadly I suspect if Verizon has it's way, finding Android devices on VZW with un-encrypted bootloaders may become more difficult as time goes on... :rolleyes:
  13. pool_shark

    pool_shark Well-Known Member

    Nexus battery cover falling off.
    You guys know that the only way it will just "fall" off is if it isn't actually on in the first place, right?
  14. BigBruDa3rd

    BigBruDa3rd Well-Known Member

    Had the X the first week it was released and best phone I owned until I got my Razr. I did Rom and mod alot on my DX in order to get it to work and look the way I wanted. But all the ROMS in the world could not make my X run as smooth as my RAZR. Everything about this phone just works. If there is lag which is very rare it's fast lag. Well not really lag just not smooth sometimes but it's always fast. You get to everything fast.

    To me the Razr is a better choice because there really is no need to Rom this beast. There is root available but I haven't even seen a need to do so. The build and radios are better and the only thing the Gnex has on the RAZR is unlocked bootloader and ICS. The screens are a wash, Gnex high Res, RAZR better colors both screens are good.

    If u have to Rom then Gnex is what u want because there is little to no dev support for the Razr. It will get ICS and they have like 6 different versions of the RAZR so you know support will be for at least the life of the contract. The DX is almost 2 years old and its still getting updates.
  15. tgpoletti

    tgpoletti Active Member

    I'm going to miss the DX.. I'm finally giving in for the upgrade next week. I was thinking about doing the razr maxx but I will miss the hacker community of the DX. Has anyone tried out the D4 yet? I know its also got a nonpullable battery..just wondering how it compares.

    Are we ever going to get a new DX? I know there is supposed to be a new droid being released in April, but I don't know too much about it.
  16. awells527

    awells527 Well-Known Member

    I plan on going from my DX to the Razr Maxx. The vanilla android would be nice, but I think the hardware is a better trade-off.
  17. mahers

    mahers Well-Known Member

    I've got to make the same decision myself. My upgrade eligibility is tomorrow and for whatever reason, my beloved X has been acting up lately. Maybe it senses the impending break up, I don't know. :) I lost root on the last ota and just dumped all 3rd party launchers due to lag and repaints. It lags, occasionally freezes and even restarts now. I was using the camcorder to video my son's first tball "hit" when it froze up and lost the whole thing. Moment lost forever. Thanks, DX.

    My coworker has the maxx and side by side, the X looks nicer. Don't know what his setting was, but adjusting both didn't matter. The DX was brighter and crisper. I need to get to the VZW store and check out the GNex, but Moto has the edge over Samsung. Then again, I could suck it up and see what's in store for the summer releases. I need a nudge one way or another.:cool:
  18. lennydude

    lennydude Well-Known Member

    In all honesty.................i have had the DX since mid last year and it still rocks. I bought the Gnex and paid cash to avoid the contract but had nothing but issues with it not being a "phone". It was an awesome piece with a great screen but would not even get a connection to make a phone call. My best friend has the Razr and loves it but he runs everything box stock.
    My DX is rooted and running Vortex. No reason to flash anything else for me at least..........absolutely love the phone the way it is :):)
    Oh well............ if it was "me", if i wanted to stay stock i would go with the Razr Maxx and not look back. If i wanted to flash roms and themes then the Gnex would be my choice.
  19. viebroccoli

    viebroccoli Well-Known Member

    Personally, I don't think the new Razr/Razr MAXX will be the new Droid X. At the time, Verizon's two top Android devices were the HTC Incredible, and the Droid X. While the HTC Incredible was the Android equivalent of the iPhone, the Droid X was Verizon's first "large" smartphone. I remember when I got my phone, everyone criticized it for it's "enormous" size. People would always say, "How are you liking your laptop?" or "That must be a pain to get in your pocket." Of course, I would always tell them it wasn't a big deal, and I would much rather have a phone with a larger screen anyways.

    The point I'm trying to make here is the Droid X was very popular in it's time because of the phones available. Has the Droid X actually been a "good" phone? Hard to tell. This has been the first Android phone I've owned, and it's been a rollercoaster relationship. Most of the time, I love it (and still to this day), whereas there are times I want to throw it against the wall. The lag I see from Motoblur (I have LauncherPro) makes me to never buy another Motoblur device. Sure, all Android phones get lag, but when the phone is rendered useless for 2-3 minutes a couple times a day, my patience becomes dry very quick.

    Now, the top phones on Verizon, in my opinion, are the Galaxy Nexus, Razr MAXX, and Rezound. Which phone would I choose to be my companion for the next 2 years? Honestly, I think the Galaxy Nexus is the strongest phone on Verizon, purely because of the direct support from Google. To my understanding, that means their code is optimized for the hardware the phone carriers, rather than a skin (Motoblur, Sense, Touchwiz) placed on top of Android. If it weren't a Nexus phone, that argument would be much different, as you would assume. But hey, that's just my opinion.

    And that's my first post, folks!
  20. ylexot

    ylexot Well-Known Member

  21. viebroccoli

    viebroccoli Well-Known Member

    The LG Cayman and HTC Fireball are also Verizon anticipated phones. Will they have quad core? Probably not, considering the One X was bumped down to dual core (in USA) due to 4G compatibility issues. Even if they do have quad core CPUs, I wouldn't be surprised if they were plagued with bugs on launch day.
  22. _Aardvark

    _Aardvark Well-Known Member

    I'm going to wait as well on this "Fighter". I'm just now eligible for an upgrade, while I'm still leaning towards a GNex, a high-res Maxx-like phone with on-screen buttons sounds pretty nice. While I like the idea of having a Nexus, I really wonder how much I'd really take advantage of it.
  23. ylexot

    ylexot Well-Known Member

    I agree. Sure, I ROM'd the X, but that was really just to eke out a little more performance. I was fine with the stock Blur'd OS and on a much newer, more powerful phone, I don't think I'd care too much about ROM'ing. It must be root-able though.
  24. viebroccoli

    viebroccoli Well-Known Member

    I'm in the same boat. I could go with the Galaxy Nexus, or wait around for these possible quad core phones. As of now, the Galaxy Nexus seems like a more logical upgrade. Are quad core phones even necessary at this point? What applications need more than a 1.2 dual core CPU? As far as I see it, phones are in dire need of more RAM, rather than CPU power (and battery, obviously). There are supposedly phones coming out this year that should have 2 GB of ram, though.

    Also, does anyone think the Samsung Galaxy SIII would have the slightest possibility of coming to Verizon? If so, that would be a HUGE reason to wait to upgrade. Although it is probably doubtful, Verizon would be crazy to not get a hold of that phone, considering the SII's track record.

    To me, it looks like Verizon isn't going to release any spectacular phones this year. Of course, the holidays in December is a whole different ball game. Maybe then Verizon will get a Motorola Nexus, or something.
  25. awells527

    awells527 Well-Known Member

    I am ordering the Razr Maxx. The Razr Maxx has better hardware overall when compared to the Galaxy Nexus, and will eventually get ICS.

    Also, I prefer Motorola docks and accessories over Samsung's.

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