Does the processor feel slow?


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  1. Delude

    Delude Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I'd like to know whether you think the processor actually feels slow, does it seem like it's trying to keep up with the awesome software on the device?

    When 2.0 comes, will the processor strain more, or work better?

    I need to know that it will last 18 months and keep up to speed before signing anything :)

    Thanks
     

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  2. Quazar

    Quazar Well-Known Member

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    We don't know what the new version will bring.
    The software can be further optimised to become faster. HTC should be working on fixes to make it faster.

    I don't notice much slow down unless there are a lot of apps open, which is when I just use taskpanel to kill them.
    An occasional restart of the phone can keep it up to speed too.
     
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    From my experience with the 2.1 test builds, it feels even smoother than the current 2.73 ROM. The 2.73 ROMs slow up slightly on occasion (nothing unlike your usual iPhone experience), but its pretty rare, even with quite a few apps in the background.
     
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    Delude Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Nice one, thanks!!

    Still looking for that extra kick before I get a contract. It seems like the cheapest (and overall best...) thing to do is go with T-Mobile for 18 months, I just don't want to (for any reason) regret it.
     
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    If you do decide to go with t mobile phone them direct and then haggle you can normally get a tenner knocked off at least and if they don't hang up and try again with a different advisor
     
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    Delude Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Thanks, that's what I was going to try. I managed to get the price down to
     
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    Yep 18 months for 25 a month with unlimited web etc couldn't budge them on contract length
     
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    With mine, things start to behave a bit strangely after a couple of days, such as intermittent lag, SMS notification sound 5-10seconds after the phone vibrates, etc. This only happens if I've used a variety of apps and received/made a lot of calls/txts.

    Just requires a restart to get everything back to normal.
     
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    Sounds like a bug since this has never happend to me.
     
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    It does lag a bit and the new OS is likely to be more optimized and help with the situation. But you have to release, this is a last generation processor so it can only do so much. It is going to take a second generation Hero(which should be announced a CES) with either a Cortex A8 or snapdragon based system to really improve things.
     
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    Delude Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    That's the thing, I'm on the edge of signing up for a contract but all I hear is negative things about how 'it should have this..' and 'the next one will be...' etc. If I wait until the next phone then I'm pretty sure I wont be able to get it for anywhere near
     
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    Delude Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Very good point, thanks so much :)
     
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    Sorry, it's a slow evening and I'm bored.
     
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    I am not very schooled in the field of processor architecture and interpreting specs so could anyone out there explain?


    the chip in the HTC Hero/Eris is a Qualcomm MSM7200A. The spec sheet lists the processor as a dual core 528MHz ARM11/256MHz ARM9 processor.

    I know that in the computer world, a dual core 528MHz plus 256MHz ≠ 784MHz, but shouldn't it be enough to compete with the Iphone 3Gs processor clocked at 600MHz?

    I have searched and found no mention that the Hero had a dedicated GPU, but I thought that the GPU was used mainly for 3D rendering, which should not have an effect on everyday use of the phone.

    It seems to me that most of the lag users are experiencing might be due to a unoptimized GUI. Is that a fair thing to say?

    On the Qualcomm spec sheet it says that the chip has "dedicated hardware accelerating the entire 3D rendering process"

    What is that referring to?


    Thanks to anyone who can answer. I have just seen so many threads about how the "underpowered" processor in the HTC Hero kills the experience that I thought maybe I'd clear up some of the questions I had about the phone and its capabilities, and hopefully shed some light for some of the other "Knowledge Impaired" users out there.
     
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    The Iphone 3GS and Palm Pre use the A8. It is a completely different architecture making clock speed comparison basically useless. Newer architecture get more done with each Mhz. Here is a good read if you have some time to kill. The GPU is very very important. It is not only important for gaming ability, but also for taking the work of displaying the GUI off the CPU. If you want to see how important it is, pick up a Pre. It is horribly slow, and a lot of that is the OS does not have the ability to use the extremely capable GPU.
     
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    I understand the newer generation of chips will utilize its power more efficiently then previous gen chips. I also understand that each UI has to be optimized for different chipsets/architectures.
    The MSM7200A does not have a dedicated GPU, despite the claim of "dedicated hardware accelerating the entire 3D rendering process", correct?

    Could it be compared to how some low end laptops have Video Cards integrated into the CPU chipset, while higher end models include a standalone video card?
    Is qualcomm basically saying that they have dedicated a portion of the Processor to graphics rendering, but it is taken out of what processing power it already has?
     
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    The phrase, "dedicated hardware accelerating the entire 3D rendering process," just means that the MSM7200 is fully capable of performing 3D transformation functions natively (meaning without having to go through a software translation). It doesn't reserve any portion of the CPU or anything like that. It just means it supports those instruction sets. Think of it like the SSE/SSE2/SSE3/etc instructions for Intel CPU's.
     
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    The MSM7201A has two CPU cores, an ARM9 and an ARM11. The ARM9 has its own bootloader, sets up security and runs the radio software. It then boots the ARM11 which has its own bootloader (the one users access when rooting) and runs Android.
     
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    All this stuff is always getting better. You're lucky if you ever buy any cellphone (or a laptop, or anything else high-tech, for that matter) that's not "obsolete" 18 months later. If you get a year out of a device before you wish you had the next best thing, consider yourself lucky.
    Pete

     
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    Wait for the Nexus One.
     
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    Delude Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    How much do you reckon that would be though? Easily
     
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    howdy, i seriously would wait, even though you have a good deal..... i too recieved my hero as an upgrade on xmas eve and at first was mega impressed with it, (i got it free on 18mth contract for
     
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