Dotted Screen - How are you dealing with yours?


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  1. mikegaudiello

    mikegaudiello Member This Topic's Starter

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    First, this is not a diss, I ADORE my N1, and I'm not giving it up for anything, but I have noticed a small matrix of dots on the screen. Just chilled with my friend who didn't have this on hid Droid. I gotta say it's a shade disappointing, but not a deal-breaker; especially in the light of the AMOLED contrast and color looking so, so good on it.

    How's everyone else feeling about the dots?

    EDIT: Image at http://img.pchome.net/2009/08/28/105918.jpg (warning: 5.5MB) Zoom in and look at the G-Mail icon.
     

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  2. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    You're talking about seeing the pixels on the screen? It's sort of a by product from any AMOLED screen, but seemingly a bit more pronounced on N1s (compared to say the Omnia II or Samsung Rogue). That being said, the DROID screen is going to have a little bit of backlight bleed in between pixels (which also contributes to a bit of washout) so those gaps are less noticeable. The other thing is, in the same 3.7" diagonal, the DROID is packing an additional 26,000 pixels. In short, what that means is higher pixel density and in that way, a tighter pack. In responding to a similar question, it's like looking at a 42" 1080P screen compared to a 55" from 3 feet way. You're going to see more of the pixelation in the 55". Since you're looking at the DROID's screen and the N1's screen from the same distance (arm's length), you're going to notice it. The further away the N1's screen from your eyes, the less noticeable it'll be.
     
  3. afine1

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    i think he is talking about hte crossing patern on the top of the glass. i see it to when i reflect it in the right light.
     
  4. choffy21

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    I'm probably mistaken, but those dots are to help cool off the screen; AMOLED screens get very hot.

    At least, that's what I hear.
     
  5. mikegaudiello

    mikegaudiello Member This Topic's Starter

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    If that's true, they do any awesome job, my phone under heavy use NEVER gets as hot as the last phone I had, an HTC Touch Pro.
     
  6. afine1

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    So it is a radiator built into the glass?
     
  7. meekrab

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    Somebody should post a picture of this, sounds interesting. I wasn't aware that amoled screens produced that much heat.
     
  8. JoeIndy

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    I can't speak with any authority, but that doesn't make sense. AMOLED is noted for it's low power usage. In most electronic type devices, power leads to heat. So, it would make sense that lower power, means less heat.
     
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    i still dont get what dots are being referred here ? :confused:
     
  10. meekrab

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    The OLED's are very low power, but they still use TFT switches for every pixel and these carry a strong current. I think this is where most of the heat comes from. Hopefully it's not too bad (Samsung manufactures these panels so I think it'll be ok) but heat is death for oled displays
     
  11. rob61280

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    Does applying a screen protector create any problems with extra heat buildup?

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  12. meekrab

    meekrab Well-Known Member

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    That's actually a really good question. I'm not sure, but if I had to guess I would say no. Unless something explicitly says otherwise in the literature, but I don't own one so I can't check.
     
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    I saw those dots today. It was when my phone was at an angle and the light reflected off of them almost making them look shiny. I don't notice them during normal use and I am not sure what they are for, but it doesn't matter since they don't affect my user experience.
     
  14. kyler13

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    Seriously, nobody has identified this yet? That grid of dots is from the touch screen. The dots you see are spacers for the capacitive layer. The HD2 has it. Hell, my Storm has it. Not sure why the iphone doesn't have it. Different manufacturers, I suppose.

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582734
     
  15. meekrab

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    Thanks for clearing that up, sounds like it's probably HTC phones where they are most visible. I haven't noticed anything like that on my droid.
     
  16. informale

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    No dots on Samsung Galaxy either.
     
  17. afine1

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    they are not dots but a line in a crossing pattern. very unnoticable execpt in the right light and when you are looking for them. thin like a spider web on glass, not the pattern but the line. i tried to wipe it off when i first saw it.
     
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    +1 My storm definitely has it. Interested on what exactly it does.
     
  19. mikegaudiello

    mikegaudiello Member This Topic's Starter

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    Guys, this isn't what I'm talking about. I'll have to take a pic and show you at some point. But I guess that sort of answers the question, no one even knows what I'm talking about so obviously no one cares since they can't see them.
     
  20. tomtom

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    I think the OP might mean pixelation.

    BGR: "We didn’t miss the actual resolution in terms of having more room, but the DROID’s display doesn’t show pixelation like the Nexus One does, and just honestly seems like a better product."

    He doesn't go into anymore detail.. can someone shed some light on this. Can you see pixelation on menu screens? How about during movie playback?
     
  21. Neemo

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    As I understand it, pixelation means that when you look at a picture from a screen, you can see the individual pixels that form the image.

    What the OP is talking about is this I believe:
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    As for what they could be, I have no idea. Maybe it has something to do with the structure of the screen. I think they are only apparent in capacitive screens, at least I can't seem to make out anything similiar from my Touch Diamond 2's resistive screen.
     
  22. cred05

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    Mine doesn't have any dots????
     
  23. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, the N1 has dots on the screen like the HD2?
     
  24. tomtom

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    It's only in certain light at a specific angle... not even noticeable when the phones on so it makes no difference.

    I don't think the OP was about that though. BoyGeniusReport says in there review there is some pixelation... I.e the screen is low quality as the images do not appear smooth.. can anyone confirm this?
     
  25. sooper_droid12

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    I think there's another thread written by Tara-something or other who did a direct comparison between his/her DROID and N1 and confirmed that the N1's display was notably more pixelated than the DROID. I responded to him/her by saying the same thing I did in post #2.
     

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