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General Droid 3 vs RAZR


  1. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    I am possibly coming into a free RAZR(regular) and I currently have the Droid 3. My question is, if I have both, which would be better to use? I love the D3 and don't find myself using the keyboard as often as I though.

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  2. doogald

    doogald Guides Guide

    Boy, that's really something that only you can answer.

    The Razr has 4G LTE radios and no global capability and has 1 GB of RAM, vs. 512 MB for the D3. It also has a non-removable battery. The LTE radio can drain the battery fast. If you need global for some reason, then this is a no-brainer for the D3 at this point. If you now swap batteries, or are using an extended battery in the D3, that may be another reason to stay with the D3. The display on the D3 is LCD and I think looks better than the Razr, though it may drain the battery a little faster. We also know that the Razr is getting an ICS upgrade eventually, though we are not so sure about the Droid 3, if having Android 4.0 is important to you.

    So, long post short, if the removable battery is necessary, or a global roaming phone, or you just don't like the Amoled display on the Razr, then the D3 is better. Otherwise, the Razr is probably better.
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  3. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    I don't understand the non removable battery part. That is very (cr)Apple of them. I don't like that. I also don't need global. I guess if I do get it, I will play with both and then decide. I'll also post a thread on here stating my findings.
  4. doogald

    doogald Guides Guide

    I think it's this: Motorola wanted to make the Razr the thinnest phone possible as a selling point, and the best way to make a thin phone with an adequate battery is to have the battery not be a removable part. All of the stuff that they have to do to make the battery removable adds thickness (or length and/or width) to the size of a phone. I think it's as simple as that. Apple has proved rather spectacularly for over a decade now that many people are fine with non-removable batteries in portable devices. Of course, there are many third-party portable charging solutions for iPhones, but most of us have access to power in our cars, or power where we live and work, to briefly charge portable devices during the day. Of course, we also always have those times when we don't, and those are the times that it's frustrating.

    All that said, I have been using Android phones for 26 months now, all with phones with removable batteries, and I do have spares; do you know how many times I have swapped a nearly dead battery for one that I carried that was charged? Not once. I think that the non-removable battery thing is a way over-blown criticism, though I do realize that there are some people for whom this is required.
  5. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    I too have carried a spare and have only used it once or twice. But my gripe about a non removable is when your phone freezes and the only thing to do is a battery pull. Am I to wait until it dies then recharge?
  6. doogald

    doogald Guides Guide

    As expected, Motorola anticipated that. I believe that you hold the volume down and power keys for ten seconds - this will force a restart.
  7. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    Well then, pending that working the same as a battery pull, I have no more complaints. Lol. Another question is, the RAZR is 4G, I currently pay for 3G will they make me up my contract upon activating the RAZR?
  8. doogald

    doogald Guides Guide

    I have unlimited data on my contract. When I upgraded to the Bionic in October, I kept unlimited data - it was grandfathered. (I then exchanged the Bionic for the D3 and still have the same unlimited data plan.) Data prices are the same for 3G and 4G otherwise, as far as I know. That said, I am sure that they can tell you if you call customer support.
  9. redsox985

    redsox985 Well-Known Member

    I can't see why there would be a difference in data...data is data, and with 4G, you're just going to suck it up faster is all. I would probably take the Razr's Amoled screen over this Pentile one, which looks quite crappy within 2 feet or so.
  10. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    My first Smartphone was the DX. Then they put me in the DX2(too many problems with the DX I asked to be put into the DX2) I did notice the change in screen as the DX2 has a pentile screen. Colors didn't blend well creating a kind of cloudy effect. After several problems with my DX2 I got them to put me into the Droid3. I have to say, quite the solid phone. I have had this one about a month and haven't had any problems with it(besides the crappiest camera ever) And if this has a pentile, it is better than the one in the DX2 cause I haven't noticed anything on the screen. I haven't however seen the amoled screen so I have nothing to compare it too. When/if I get the RAZR(which I possibly won on a verizon twitter contest whoop whoop) I will try to activate it myself in hopes I don't need to upgrade anything. It will be getting ICS as well which is a big selling point. Only time will tell.
  11. redsox985

    redsox985 Well-Known Member

    With hard reset buttons, I don't think the fixed battery is much of an issue. Also, if you don't need global, it won't matter which you use. If you would look at the stock, green battery bar up close on this phone, it looks ugly...but I haven't seen a DX2 screen either. I don't have many complaints about this camera after the 5.6.890 update...you should've seen it before! But I'm also on SD 4.5, so that has newer system apps.
  12. spunker88

    spunker88 Active Member

    They did it on the Droid 4 as well and they didn't really make it any thinner. My next phone is probably not going to be a Motorola is they decide to keep using non-removable batteries and locked bootloaders. It's just hard to find a decent keyboard on an Verizon Android phone besides Motorola, about the only other one I see is the Samsung Stratosphere which has worse specs than the D3 (single core 1Ghz and 800x480 display)
  13. doogald

    doogald Guides Guide

    It's a "bigger" (ie, more mAh) battery at the same thickness, though. If they tried with that size removable the phone probably would have been thicker.
  14. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    Pardon my ignorance(for lack of a better word) but what would an unlocked boot loader do?
  15. redsox985

    redsox985 Well-Known Member

    Allow the flashing of non-stock kernels and systems to do all sorts of things like increasing CPU speed, improving battery life, improving device responsiveness, no need to hack the radio to tether...
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  16. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    Well, just as I suspected, I received my RAZR in the mail yesterday. I assumed I had won a Verizon contest on twitter. And I did. I am now using the RAZR. And so far, I absolutely love it. The 4g is great. I can skip songs on pandora without having to wait almost a minute. Super light but not flimsy feeling. Great screen. I think I am going to say goodbye to the D3 and never look back.
  17. Luzce

    Luzce Active Member

    3G data and 4G data are actually not all the same thing to the network, even if it is to you.

    To the network, the cost per MB on LTE is about 3x lower than the cost per MB on 3G, so the networks would prefer you use LTE if they had both in your location. However, installing LTE nationwide is a multi-billion dollar investment, and some networks want to recoup that investment fast, similar to what Sprint did when they rolled out WiMAX and gave their first "4G" customers an extra $10 fee.

    I think Verizon doesn't make a distinction. You purchase their 2GB data plan and it costs the same to you if you are using that data over 3G or LTE, but it's not the same to Verizon, who already has a LTE network they need to load up in many major US cities.

    For me, I have a D3 and it's plenty fast for me. Not interested in the extra battery drain that is currently associated with LTE. I'd rather keep my longer battery life for now, but this problem will get better over time.
  18. arparaspolo

    arparaspolo Well-Known Member

    I have only had the RAZR one day. It has already gotten to 5% battery left after 7 hours. And that has been with random off and on again charges. I have had it on for most of that time messing with it. Rooting and setting it up the way I like it(stock, no flashed roms or anything) Hopefully in a few days the battery will last me through the day. I have a D3 with two extended moto batteries. I don't have to worry about anything with that. But I have to say, this RAZR is mighty nice. I wish it was the MAXX!

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