Droid regrets?


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  1. aquastorm

    aquastorm Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I've had my Droid for a couple of days and wanted some input from others on my observations/reservations.

    1. This phone is not ergonomic. The biggest issue I have with this is the phone is not easy to hold with just one hand. I seriously question the placement of the unlock button because once again it is very akward to pick up the phone with one hand and attempt to unlock the phone with unlock key.

    2. The physical keyboard is a total joke and almost completely useless. The mouse thing on the right side is a total waste and shouldn't be there (what was moto thinking it's almost as if they didnt get any input from anyone on the phones build).

    3. The lack of physical call and or end buttons is ill advised too I believe. This is a phone first of all not a laptop so making a call should be first priority and should be easier to initiate than it is.

    Before I ordered the Droid I went into a store and looked at both the Eris and the Droid and I noticed while I was there that I was gravitating towards the Eris more it was just more comfortable to hold and play with. In the end I decided to go with what most reviews were saying which is that the Droid is the best Android phone available and the best on Verizon but now that I have been dealing with the annoyances of the Droid for a couple of days I am seriously doubting my decision.

    Does anyone else feel the same way? I really think from what I have experienced that maybe the Eris is the better phone due to it's ergonomics, sense UI and more logical layout/design. I'm aware that the Droid is technically the more powerful phone BUT if 2.0 is truly coming to the Eris as well then I see no advantage at all for the Droid...
     

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  2. Christine

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    1) I agree that the unlock button is a little awkward. It's taken some getting used to, but I find that I'm able to hit it with one hand more now than I was last Friday. I now hold the phone so that it extends past my hand onto my wrist, and that works for me.

    2) I was actually pleasantly surprised about the keyboard. While reaching across the dpad is a bit of a stretch for my small hands, I do use the dpad a lot. For the first day or so, I was actually upset that I couldn't find a tab button or arrow keys, but then I realized that I'd been completely ignoring the dpad. It's wonderful! That said, if you're using the on-screen keyboard more than the physical one, maybe the Eris was the right choice for you. I'm just not a touchscreen kind of girl.

    3) I'm with you on the dedicated send and end buttons. While it hasn't really bothered me at all, my father was considering getting a Droid at first, and got so frustrated that he almost threw it on the floor.
     
  3. keithquick

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    first of all the whole not having a physical phone key, look at the iphone it has a menu button and thats all, the whole mouse thing guess what time a few minutes with you phone and figure it out, its not a mouse its up down left right buttons and then a center button which is a ok button, i have absolutely no problem typing on the keyboard, so before u start insulting the phone learn something about it first i have had no problems what so ever with the phone
     
  4. Christine

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    Wow. Everyone's allowed their preferences. I may happen to love some of the things he didn't, but there's no wrong or right answers here.
     
  5. aquastorm

    aquastorm Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I think really I would prefer to just use the onscreen keyboards as long as they are good while the one on the Droid is acceptable in most respects I have heard that the Eris's is slightly better.

    My initial impressions were that I liked the Eris better in the store but again I went with reviews which is what I usually do when buying electronics of any kind and ordered the Droid. I think usability and user experience is probably first and foremost over sheer power and after having this for a couple of days I feel that is something that most reviews have overlooked.
     
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    sorry christine it wasnt vented to you lol im just seeing all these posts about how the phone sucks and crap to me i think its a real good phone
     
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    aquastorm Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Yes the iphone doesn't have a send or end key BUT it does have a logical placement of the menu key which is right at the bottom on the front of the phone. The placement of that one key is placed perfectly so that it makes sense and is easy to access and that is DEFINITELY not the case with the Droid.

    The mouse thing is completely pointless I dont see any use for it at all really. The most spot on review I have seen of the Droid now that I have had it for a few days is the G4 one that was on Attack of the Show... Google it and check it out.. I agree with most everything he says in the review.
     
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    I have two keyboard gripes
    1. Why are there no navigation keys on the soft keyboard. I find it hard to position the cursor if I make a mistake.
    2. The bigger question is, why is there no completion on the hard keyboard? I would use it much more if I could get completions.

    Otherwise I don't find it hard to use.
     
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    lol i go to watch the video and it says verizon droid review but an advertisement pops up and its sprint lol
     
  10. Christine

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    I thought the Eris was a far more attractive phone myself. If it had had a physical keyboard I might have been tempted. (That and if it wasn't made by HTC, against whom I am terribly biased)
     
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    Honestly, I'm already used to the lock button and it isn't an issue for me at this point, but I agree that it was a relatively strange design choice. It would have been just as easy to put it on the side or make it one of the haptic buttons.

    I agree. The physical keyboard is lousy, mainly due to the completely awkward size and placement of the space bar. I have yet to use the D-Pad even once. In fact, because of the space bar, I've transitioned almost completely to the touch screen keyboard.

    This was strange to me at first, but it has not affected my usability at all. I have yet to have any problems without a dedicated call/end button. I do, however, really miss the way I could call on my Blackberry. It's really the only thing that is less convenient for me. I could start typing a name while on the home screen, and call options would pop up. I have to go into the Phone app with the Droid, but honestly, it's not at all a big deal for me. The proximity sensor has worked fine so I really don't mind the lack of physical call/end buttons.

    Everybody's going to feel different. I used the Eris, too, and while I really liked it, I still prefer the standard Droid. It's more powerful, has better features (IMO) and even though I don't always use it, I love to have the option of a physical keyboard when I need it.

    I can see why some would prefer the Eris, and if this is the case, I would say go for it. They're both great phones, and except for a few quirks, better than anything else I have ever used, including several Blackberrys and an iPhone. That's just my opinion, though.
     
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    See my reply's below:

     
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    i've seen a lot of people upset about the placement of the un/lock button and i just dont really get it... as a former iphoner, i dont see much difference. the lock button is the same spot and unless you held the iphone with two hands, you hold the droid in almost the same exact way. granted the soft key on the iphone did initiate the unlock, but still.... not a big difference.

    again, as a former iphoner, the physical keyboard is like a whoa!?!?!?!? for me. havent had one in two years and have gotten so used to not, i hardly use it. been trying to train myself to but its just easier for me to type on the screen. although i do agree with the dpad - its a waste except for moving around in texts/emails and copy/paste. plus the keys all feel the same. really just preference to all.

    send/end buttons....? former blackberry users i guess? again, i dont get it cuz the iphone has 2.1 buttons (home, lock, un/silent switch). i dont see a real point in them unless your screen isnt working... but if thats the case you have bigger problems.

    guess my whole purpose in posting was to just point out its really a personal preference and not a fault of the phone. the droid is a mashup of the iphones and blackberrys and i think it did an excellent job. granted, it has its quicks but what brand new phone and os didnt...?

    gg motorola (dont call it a comeback...?) and google - ty verizon for carrying it and still locking down some features?
     
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    I like the phone a lot, the physical keypad not so much but I'm sure i can get use to it... Other than that I'm happy with it!
     
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    Well, I love mine... I keep tweaking it and finding new settings and apps. I have long fingers and can unlock and swipe with one hand. I like the software keys for some things but, the keyboard is very nice for typing with full screen. I agree it could be more ergonomically correct but, then it would not be the Droid. It would not have the keyboard, the rounded phones keyboards suck. Look at the Pre. There is no way I could type on that phone.

    Now, If Verizon would have released the HTC "Passion/Dragon" with Android 2.0 and at least the same chip-set as the Droid I probably would have bought it. They did not.

    I purchased the Home and Car Dock, car charger, and case. The two Docks make this truly a unique animal. As soon as you put your phone in the car dock it magically goes to Navigation. In the Home dock/charger it becomes an alarm clock. No other phone will do all this.

    No regrets. I love it. In twenty months I will be buying the latest and greatest then. Enjoy your phone....
     
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    Keyboard isn't ideal for me but its useable meh. Just got mine and I have to say the phone rocks coming from a hero.
     
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    My thoughts are posted inline below (long):



    Originally Posted by aquastorm
    I've had my Droid for a couple of days and wanted some input from others on my observations/reservations.

    1. This phone is not ergonomic. The biggest issue I have with this is the phone is not easy to hold with just one hand. I seriously question the placement of the unlock button because once again it is very akward to pick up the phone with one hand and attempt to unlock the phone with unlock key.

    Totally agreed on this one. There really is no reason the Unlock button could not have been placed on the top left of the phone instead of the top right. With it's current placement, you have to brace your hand against either the volume button or the camera button, which inadvertently leads to pressing things you don't want to, because you have to unlock the phone then shift its position in your hand before you can USE it. Aain, no excuse and terrible design on moto's part. ANOTHER ergonomic issue that I have is the design of the touch menu buttons on the bottom. I always manage to accidentally hit the search button or back button with the corner of my palm because it only needs a light touch rather than a physical press.

    2. The physical keyboard is a total joke and almost completely useless. The mouse thing on the right side is a total waste and shouldn't be there (what was moto thinking it's almost as if they didnt get any input from anyone on the phones build).

    This was an interesting item for me. My last two phones had mediocore physical portrait keyboards (nothing as good as a BB, but "ok") and the touchscreen keyboards were USELESS. I still consider a well made physical portrait keyboard to be the pinnacle of typing because you're thumbs don't have to travel as far, making it FASTER when you learn it well, and you don't have to continuously correct the autocorrect software just because you wanted to say something different than the norm. Needless to say, the droids keyboard was NOT one of its selling points when I was considering buying it. FLAT, with NO tactile feedback to tell me when I move from key to key? seriously?

    HOWEVER, over the last few days, I have gotten a hell of a lot better at typing on that physical keyboard than I ever expected. When I first started, I could type the fastest on the landscape screen kb (the portrait one is and still is useless to me).... but now I really have gotten pretty fast with the physical kb, and I'm getting steadily faster. I'm still getting used to the placement of the shift and alt keys, because they're reversed from my old phone, but thats just a matter of retraining. The fact that it has TWO shift and TWO alt keys, one on each side, means it has A LOT of potential for typing much faster than I currently am (another matter of retraining).

    With that said, it's a look and type keyboard ONLY. There's no way I can touch type even a few letters on it (which I could do with old phones) - fast typing requires intense visual concentration on my part to keep my fingers hitting the right buttons. It's also very tiring on my fingers to use it, because of the additional distance my thumbs have to travel in landscape mode, particularly for someone with very mild carpal tunnel.

    Finally, I absolutely HATE the spacebar on it. The positioning is fine, but the way the physical button is constructed, it's really three physical buttons underneath, with one large 3x1 keycap over the top. BUT since the keycap is soft plastic, every single time I mash in between two of the buttons, I FEEL the button press from both of then and I then think in my head that I accidentally hit two keys. This is very disjointing when typing on a flat monospaced keyboard where you already have to be EXTRA careful of not hitting in between two keys and triggering both of them.

    The D-pad, contrary to many people's opinion, really isn't so bad. When my hand is on the keyboard and typing away, the last damned thing in the world I want to do is to take my hands off the keyboard and move the cursor. The d-pad allows for this functionality wonderfully, so I can begin a new email, type in who its to, add a cc, subject, compose the message, and hit send, all without moving my fingers off the keyboard. THIS is why the d-pad is there, and for this function, it works PERFECTLY. not to mention its great for moving forward or backward a few characters in the text, much more precise.



    3. The lack of physical call and or end buttons is ill advised too I believe. This is a phone first of all not a laptop so making a call should be first priority and should be easier to initiate than it is.

    Again, coming from a line of phones that had physical buttons for everything, SEND/END buttons are pretty ingrained in my mind as well. I am surviving just fine without them... but there are definitely moments when I want the call to end NOW and I am still waiting for the touchscreen to "catch up" to what I was asking it to do (just because the normally fast phone decided to lag in that moment). I'll live without em, and don't know where you would have put them on a phone like this.... but I'll miss em.


    Before I ordered the Droid I went into a store and looked at both the Eris and the Droid and I noticed while I was there that I was gravitating towards the Eris more it was just more comfortable to hold and play with. In the end I decided to go with what most reviews were saying which is that the Droid is the best Android phone available and the best on Verizon but now that I have been dealing with the annoyances of the Droid for a couple of days I am seriously doubting my decision.

    Does anyone else feel the same way? I really think from what I have experienced that maybe the Eris is the better phone due to it's ergonomics, sense UI and more logical layout/design. I'm aware that the Droid is technically the more powerful phone BUT if 2.0 is truly coming to the Eris as well then I see no advantage at all for the Droid...

    The Eris is a good phone, hands down. When I went into the store a few times to play with the phone before purchasing, every single time I looked VERY closely at the Eris. At the time I never expected to become accustomed to the Droid's physical keyboard, so the lack of one on the Eris was not a huge detractor, not to mention the fact that the HTC Sense UI keyboard on-screen was much better than the stock Android keyboard. HTC as a company was a huge + for the phone, not a detractor, because I knew that folks over at xda would be sure to cook up a new and awesome ROM for it anyway to fix any nagging problems. Then you add in PHYSICAL send and end keys, a phone that weighs half as much, and PHYSICAL menu keys, and a trackball! oh my! so pretty!

    BUT in the end, it came down to a matter of hardware. I buy my phones for long term 2-3 year usage. The Eris may be getting 2.0 later on... but it will still be on an outdated processor. Considering that I already have my Droid running a little choppier than I would like, if I had gotten an Eris I would be throwing it across the room by now out of sheer frustration at the lag. I NEED the extra speed, but some folks don't. And I have good eyes, so I REALLY REALLY appreciate the crystal clear, ginormous screen!!!

    All in all, the Droid has its quirks, that is for sure... but I am glad I did not get the Eris. The Eris is perfect for a certain group of people -- if I had a non-tech savvy wife, I'd tell her to get the Eris simply because its a cleaner UI and a smaller, prettier phone. Even if she was tech savvy, I'd tell her to get the Eris because its a cleaner, better designed phone. But I got the Droid for RAW power and screen side, and in this, it does not disappoint. I'll be keeping mine, but I can totally understand someone wanting to switch to the Eris (just don't be surprised if it's lagging like a mofo on the new app you want to run in a year, you've been warned!)
     
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    Just a tip for y'all that I dont know if you have figured out yet or not. Instead of using the awkward unlock button at the top (which I'm used to now) you can also slide the screen a few millimeters open and close it and it does the same thing. I prefer this method when driving. I slide it a tiny bit with my thumb and it does the same thing as the unlock button at the top which may be inconvenient to get to--especially when behind the wheel.
     
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    Despite the shape of the phone, the difficult to use physical keyboard (with no auto complete/correction) and a difficult to use unlock button placed at the top for some... This is by far the fastest, most powerful, and best phone released in the United States. I personally would like a thinner device with no physical keyboard, but I like the shape and almost everything about my droid. It is the best phone ever made available in the United States... Hands down. No phone even competes - hardware wise.
     
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    Well from a fairly "hardware" level... the iPhone can keep up and at times smoke the Droid.
     
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    No sir, the iPhone's hardware does not "at times smoke the Droid". The Droid's hardware beats the iPhone in all categories and is a far more advanced device. The iPhone cannot even run more than one app at once. Now if you are talking solely about speed tests. Yes, for one reason or another (mostly software) the iPhone has at times fared better than the Droid. Especially in the browser arena. Bit it is not hardware since the droids hardware is more powerful and advanced than that of the iPhone. I was speaking of hardware not speed benchmarks.
     
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    I'm coming from a BB Curve where I could do everything with one hand. The Droid makes it hard to do anything with one hand, but besides that I have no problem with the Droid. I actually like the keyboard and D-Pad. It takes some getting use to, but as much as I use it I'm getting use to it very quickly. I like different and this is a lot different than I use to.
     
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    Thought I would mention also, that although it does not say "call end" per se, you can use the back button to the left of the menu key and it will stop the call. At least, that's how it's been working for me so far, as an alternative to hitting call end on the touchscreen.
     
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    For the guy saying that the droid has better hadware than the iphone: the 3gs and the Droid have the exact same CPU.

    For the Guy saying press back to end a call: that doesn't work. You are just letting the other person hang up for you.
     
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    +1 for your #2. No auto complete when using the physical keyboard vs. touch makes no sense at all.
     

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