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  1. hondaexshark

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    Hello, I have the app called tasks killer. It shows me all the programs currently running. It allows me to kill Apps in mass at will. Thing is my droid seems tohave programs running that I never use or don't need to be on Like verizon wireless. Visual vmail. How do I keep app from turning on in the bk ground and bawging my phone down
     

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  2. radikal

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    ya don't and task killer is a bad app, it slows down the phone usually, just restart your phone daily or so
     
  3. Fabolous

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    You can purchase the app 'Startup Auditor' if you want to keep those pesky tasks from continuously starting up and bogging down your phone.
     
  4. alostpacket

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    Task killers are mostly a waste of time, if you kill visual voice mail you wont get the visual vms I would imagine
     
  5. alostpacket

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    Search for a thread titled "task killers 'the truth'" and you can read the various opinions on the usefulness of task killers.
     
  6. jtbnet

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    Just be careful when using 'Startup Advisor'... I had a problem loosing texts... they showed up in tray but when I clicked on app to read them they were gone...I believe I found the problem for me... I was running 'Startup Auditor' which I had set to disable messaging assuming only handcent was needed when I had it set as default messaging app... once I stopped messing with normal messaging starting all seems back to normal... checking startup auditor came to me as an idea when I saw folks having problems with task killers set to kill supposed unneeded apps... seems you need to better understand the definition of un-needed....
     
  7. Needsdecaf

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    I had a lot of problems with Startup Auditor.

    Force closes

    MAJOR lag

    Programs wouldn't open that weren't on the list.

    Had this on three phones...two Eris and the Droid. All the same results.
     
  8. ttaylor0024

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    You don't need a task killer. It will do more harm than good. Android will automatically kill tasks when it needs the memory.
     
  9. bigdroiddog

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    I use advanced task manager and i find it works well. I use the widget to instantly kill only the selected apps that I pick to be killed, I have had great luck with it, i free up memory space about 8 times a day, but i also restart my phone about every 3 days.I think ultimately your phone runs with an average 30 to 40 memory left over, once it drops below 30 android will automatically free up space. I also use an app called systray montitor which displays my remaining memory in my notification bar at all times. It will also show sd memory and battery percentage if you allow it to.
     
  10. messenger13

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    I can't believe all the Task Killer haters ... dag! The problem isn't the app, it's how you use it.

    Three simple guidelines:

    1 - Don't let ATK start on startup!
    2 - Don't let it continuously run!
    3 - Use it momentarily. Open ATK, kill needless apps including itself. DOne


    With two taps on the screen, I have more available memory. How can this be a bad thing?!?! :thinking:

    And I do like Startup Auditor as well. :) Just takes a few days to get it setup properly. And be careful not to let it shut down apps that will affect other apps from not working properly (i.e. the stock Messaging app is needed even if you're using Handcent or chompSMS).


    And yes, I understand how the Android O/S manages memory, on paper. But in real life, I think I'm better off with my Task Killer.
     
  11. rondo777

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    I was using both app killer and the startup program as well. WAY TO MUCH WORK! I dumped both and the phone runs great. Yes there is a bunch of crap running in the background but Android seems to manage just fine on its own. I probably restart my phone once every other week of so and not even out of nessessity. It never seems to slow down and has never locked up. I've had the phone for about 2 months now. MAN I LOVE THIS PHONE!:D
     
  12. Fabolous

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    I don't know why everyone thinks you need the stock messaging app for 3rd party ones to work. I have completely deleted it and Handcent works fine. You just have to set it to auto retreive your messages.

    That being said, I use both ATK and startup auditor and consistently have tons of free memory and fast performance.
     
  13. CRPercodani

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    I'm not a fan of any task killers but the best way to remove apk's you don't want is to root and flash the bugless ROM. It is honestly faster then stock and has no bugs that I have found yet. It will give you the choice to delete a lot of stock app's like the one's you mentioned. Rooting and flashing is very easy now, the hardest part is flashing the update.zip to get root which is actually easy, the rest can be done with droidroothelper in the market, then you just get the ROM from alldroid.org and flash it with SPRecovery which droidroothelper installs for you.

    Alternatively you can remove these apk's yourself with ADB but you still need to be rooted and ADB is tricky to learn if your not used to command line stuff.
     
  14. rdillz

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    You have to be nuts not to use some type of task manager, believing some random article, instead of using common sense. My Droid starts with opening 30+ apps!!! And its a laggy POS until my Advanced Task Manager kicks in. Also,the ability to kill tasks is a native function in the OS as well if you go in your settings, but the 3rd party apps are better. Why would they include that function if its not needed?
     
  15. CRPercodani

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    I'm not gonna get into the debate about task killers, but to say it was some random article is dead wrong. The developers behind Android made the video that says you don't need to kill tasks because Linux does it for you. If you feel better using one and have a overall better experience then use one. I have no need for one and when I did try a few they all had negative effects.

    EDIT: Yes they included the feature in the OS to further prove you don't need any other ones. It is mainly there because A LOT of developers write shoddy code and the apps end up with memory leaks so sometimes you need to kill them. If you don't need a ton of apps then you shouldn't need a task killer but in the rare case you do need one the native function works fine.
     
  16. Krugger

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    I understand Android kills programs when it need the memory, but my question is about battery life. Having more programs open would, I'd think, use more battery then having less open. Am I incorrect in this assumption? When 10 random programs I don't need open all the time open up on their own, I'd think killing them (in the manner messenger13 mentioned) would benefit my battery life.

    Thoughts?
     
  17. CRPercodani

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    I am sure that would definitely help out with battery life, which is why I have just delted any app I don't need and I only download apps from the market that I will actually need/use not a bunch of garbage like joe aka messenger12.
     
  18. PerCompLLC

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    +1
     
  19. PerCompLLC

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    ++1
     
  20. magnus

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    This is exactly what I do......But one thing I don't know is how do I see the memory that it freed up?

    Where can I see how much memory the system is using to then make a comparison of how much memory was freed?



    I can understand battery life being better is some app is constantly using GPS or running Processor cycles (killing those can increase battery life.......but aren't those few and far between?)

    ....... but merely having an 'open' program ie. residing in RAM should NOT take up any more battery life, right? It takes power to keep any RAM bit at '1' or '0'. So there is no difference whether the RAM is empty or full.

    ..is there?
     
  21. kenpalmcoast

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    I've been using Home++.
    It has an icon on the bottom that enables you end all applications. It seems to work well.
    Is anyone else using this function?
     
  22. Krugger

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    i don't download garbage either. but i also don't understand (at ALL) why any OS would open/allow programs to open themselves for no reason. for instance i only have like 3 simple games, but why do some of them open randomly in the background?
     
  23. ICON32181

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    I don't know about battery life, but I persoanlly use ATK to kill Corporate Calander and Alarm Clock, as I never use them currently, yet they somehow find a way to be open/running in the background. Unless the Browser/Facebook/Weather Channel/Hadncent/some random games use the previously named apps, which I doubt...?
     

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