Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by EazySteve, Nov 19, 2012.
Now $200 on Virgin's website
Good thing I bought it at Radioshack for 219.99$ I would hate to have bought it a week before this lol.
Now that's a deal. I'd be upset if the savings I've enjoyed by switching to VM didn't already offset that price difference lol.
I went ahead and ordered it today instead of waiting for Black Friday or Cyber Monday. I figure if it gets reduced even further on either day I can always just order another one and return this one.
Wasn't the sale price $239.00 earlier this week?
Yeah, it was $239.99 on the VM site. I paid $229.99 each for 2 phones at Radio Shack. I could have saved $60
I also see the Iphone is $350 - I think it used to be $500
Even the 4S finally went down. Probably true that they will get the 5 sometime. The 5th row of icons really makes me want to ditch android. That is an extra row!
You silly boy! Just get a launcher app that lets you add more rows. (ie go launcher)
I remember a couple of months ago when I bought my EVO for $219 at RS that they had just announced the iPhone on VM. I was very excited as I have been after an iPhone for years but wont pay $90 a month 'regular' service fees (ATT etc). That was until I saw the price tag of the 16gb version - $600+. With the new prices its coming within range of what I'm comfortable paying for a phone. The 8gb is $350 and I could 'live' with 8gb what with the ability to stream music now and no real need to have my collection on the device.
I would miss the 4g of the EVO and the freedom of installing anything I want to but still, $350 for a $35 a month iPhone is very tempting. We like to bash them but they are a very nice device with excellent update support from Apple...
Makes you think.
The only nice thing about the iphone is the sleek hardware and the apps. That's it. If field runners 2 comes to android i don't need an iphone.
Apple updates are as useless as tonsils. They overprice their products and yet they still sell millions, how they do it? I have no idea other then an inbread society. Just look and compare at all the different iPhone models and you will see what I mean.
Use nova launcher. I have 5 rows by default.
Not to make this an iPhone vs Android thread but lets be honest, the iPhone is a sleek device.
My in-laws (in their 70's) both got iPhones last month and its amazing to watch them work the devices. They are sending emails, texts, custom ringers, you name it they can do it and these people are def not tech savvy. No error messages and no screwy OS issues (rogue apps flattening a battery in 2 hrs etc).
I can imagine giving my in-laws an EVO and then explaining to them that they have to root/S-OFF/custom ROM the device just to fix shipped issues. As for the updates being 'useless' at least they have updates. I can guarantee that you will never see another EVO update after the current 'minor fix' being pushed right now for the EVO.
I love the EVO but I also love to tinker with gadgets. Most people dont, they just want it to work.
The iphone 5 maps app did not exactly "work" when it came out. Apple is not immune to software bugs and mistakes. In fact, the Iphone 5 only brings Apple in line with what the EVO V was already capable of. It still lags behind the flagship androids, but 6 months down the road, apple fans will be able to shell out some more cash for the Iphone 5s when they include a new revolutionary feature that they just came up with.....Near Field Communication.
Other than the resource issue, the stock EVO is almost flawless. I can't imagine someone being able to text, email and do custom ringers on an Iphone and not be able to do them on an android phone. It's just too easy.
Not saying all that to be ornery. But Android really does "Just Work". The difference is that Apple "just works" the way apple wants it to, whereas android gives one greater flexibility, (which is what rooting is all about) even without rooting.
The difference is that Apple issues an almost immediate fix. How long have we been waiting for the msg fix on the EVO?
Dont get me wrong, the EVO is a great device but its OK to acknowledge another device is as good or possibly better.
Android does not give you greater flexibility out of the box. You have the flexibility becasue you are prepared to root and then sit there with a piece of wire to gain 'S-OFF'. You can 'jailbreak' an iPhone if you want more flexibility. Neither device is open to personal customization out of the box.
All I know is if my in-laws had bought the EVO it would have been back at RS within a day. Imagine explaining to a 70 yr old how to add music, pics and video to their new android device.
"Well first you need double-twist, no wait just drag the files to that folder instead, no wait you have to reduce the video file size, no wait...."
With iPhone you use iTunes - end of story and it works well.
You should not have to wait months for an update or hack a device so that it 'just works'.
Our issue is not inherent to android. It's an HTC issue. (Some would say exacerbated by the fact that it's an end of life device on Virgin Mobile). If someone wants the apple experience on android, they could get the google nexus phone and always have the updates first. Our problem was not related to the OS. It was the manufacturer.
Also, as far as music and pics go, how is it easier to have to use Itunes than to use the play store or even Amazon MP3? The ability to use a MICRO SD card also makes moving pics and music around even easier. You have a hardware solution and a cloud based solution on Android.
What? IPhones have just as many issues if not more than android phones?
Remember the iPhone 4, radio issues galore. All Apple said is that they were holding it wrong...
Apple gives the illusion of having no bugs because the won't own up to them.
And then there is Apple maps....
Lol. I forgot about the radio issue. Appropriate for this convo.
Don't forget that Apple's ability to just work has a lot to do with controlling the device from start to finish, hardware and software from a single source makes things a lot simpler,, it's the same thing with Windows running numerous versions on a billion different hardware configurations. With both Windows and Android the remarkable part is that it works so well in very different environments, you can now get a device running JB for under $100. Amazing!
Not relevant as the nexus isnt available on VM.
Music and pics via the 'cloud' - hardly the same as having the physical file on your device. What if Im in Airplane mode on a trip?
Please show me a UI that offers the same functionality as iTunes but for Android. Using the Micro SD card for media assumes you know the different codecs and filesizes. iTunes does all this for you on the fly. You cant assume that because you are comfortable with moving files around the SD card that others are. Its much more that just dragging files around.
I always find it interesting how we feel the need to dog another device by hiding in minutia of the devices 'problems' when our device is an equal (or more) offender. The EVO has its issues (just read through the many threads) and it certainly is not more robust than the iPhone.
If you mean physical robustness then very few phones compare with the evo, I mean it has a full aluminum unibody and Gorilla Glass, while we pay for it in weight there certainly aren't very many phones that compare with the overall sturdiness of the package. Also how is the need to know the file size or codec required relevant to playing a file from your sd card? You launch the media player, it scans the card and plays the files.
Google Play Music. Where have you been?
Yea but its 100 tines easier for Apple to push out updates and fixes because they have only ONE phone to worry about, if not then just a couple OS's. Theres a way wider variety for Android phones and it's a pain to take care each and every single one. Im not saying the iPhone is a bad device, its actually great it was the phone I wanted until I got this one.
Your telling me that GP Music, scans my local music folder, and syncs my phone locally (not over the oh so slow VM internet connection) to my music library? I dont think so. There is no desktop application that LOCALLY syncs your music while giving you LOCAL access to tracks, playlists and file conversions (lower bitrate conversion etc) that compares to iTunes.
As for not needing to know about filesize or codec. If my father in-law wants to copy over and load his 8gb 'summer vacation' movie over onto his 4gb SD card its going to be a problem. First he has to dummy down the filesize with something such as xvid or wmv and then he has to hope that his player of choice supports xvid or wmv. This is assuming he knows how to convert the file in the first place. iTunes does all this for you. You drag the file into iTunes and wait awhile. Then it appears on your device all ready to play. No muss no fuss
I agree 100%. I also wanted the iPhone until I got my EVO. The EVO is a wonderful device but that doesnt mean the iPhone cant be