Root [Duos] Extend the 170 MB system storage?

[Biffos]

I have 170 MB system storage (or how do you call it, according to RAM on a Notebook). It is not possible to install that many apps. Obviously only some apps can be installed on the micro card (4 GB) or is it possible to install all apps on this card? Or how could I get more storage to install more apps?

 

[Crashdamage]

Best solution is a better phone.

 

[Biffos]

Thanky you Crashdamage,

Yes, indeed, or not to install apps, thanks for that idea.

 

[boyo1991]

You can install to the sd card. Just go to settings, applications, on sd card. These are the apps that are able to go on the sd card (just about all of them) now tap one and tap "move to sd card" this should help free some space for more apps.

 

[Biffos]

Thank you boyo1991,

Yes, I had tried that, if I understand it right. Do you mean go to "on sd card" or to "Installed"? I assume, at "on sd card" the apps are already running on SD-Card (completely or partly), there is the option "Move to phone" or "Change to phone", but deactivated. When I go to "Installed" for some apps I find the option "Move to phone" (strange, they already seem to be on the phone, why is there this option?) and for some apps "Move to SD-Card", but this option is deactivated. E.g. Adobe Reader is shown twice on "On SD-Card" and on "Installed", why is that?

So, I cannot find a way to move apps from the phone to the SD-Card.

 

[mikedt]

Best solution is a better phone.

I tend to agree. It sounds very much like a cheapo Chinese device that doesn't have much internal storage. Many of them are like that.

 

[mikedt]

Thank you boyo1991,

Yes, I had tried that, if I understand it right. Do you mean go to "on sd card" or to "Installed"? I assume, at "on sd card" the apps are already running on SD-Card (completely or partly), there is the option "Move to phone" or "Change to phone", but deactivated. When I go to "Installed" for some apps I find the option "Move to phone" (strange, they already seem to be on the phone, why is there this option?) and for some apps "Move to SD-Card", but this option is deactivated. E.g. Adobe Reader is shown twice on "On SD-Card" and on "Installed", why is that?

So, I cannot find a way to move apps from the phone to the SD-Card.

Some apps can be installed and/or moved to the SD card, while there's quite a few that wont. And there's many that insist on using internal memory only for data storage. And if you've only got 170MB internal useable, it can be a problem. Not a lot you can do about it with that device I'm afraid.

 

[bubkusjones]

Root your device, partition an SD Card in two (say 2-4gigs for an ext2 partition, the rest for the regular FAT32), and install Link2SD. It'll basically turn that ext2 partition into extra space for "internal" storage.

How to Partition SD Card and Use Link2SD in any Android Phone with Screenshots

Worked for me. Haven't had an "Insufficient Storage" issue since.

 

[Biffos]

I tend to agree. It sounds very much like a cheapo Chinese device that doesn't have much internal storage. Many of them are like that.

Yes, that is right, it is a Samsung Galaxy S6102 Duos.

Some apps can be installed and/or moved to the SD card, while there's quite a few that wont. And there's many that insist on using internal memory only for data storage. And if you've only got 170MB internal useable, it can be a problem. Not a lot you can do about it with that device I'm afraid.

And there obviously are a few ones that are shown to be stored / installed on card but they seeem to be installed internal. And there is no app installed on card, which can be moved to the internal storage, the buttons are greyed out.

The apps have been installed automatically to card or internal storage, is there a way to affect it?

How much internal storage you should have?

Root your device, partition an SD Card in two (say 2-4gigs for an ext2 partition, the rest for the regular FAT32), and install Link2SD. It'll basically turn that ext2 partition into extra space for "internal" storage.

At the moment I do not understand what that means, how to root the phone, but the explanation at the end of the link seems to clarify, MiniToolPartion I already use, I will try it, thanks for the link.

 

[bubkusjones]

Rooting your device means gaining administrator control. By default, the Android OS limits what you can do on your phone as a security measure, so you don't do anything that could damage your phone. It also gives you a lot of control over what you can do on your phone.

Many of the better system utilities require root access in order to function. Link2SD won't work without it.

I'm on my phone right now, but I can see if there are any working root methods when I get home.

 

[LilBit]

This is where you will find out how to root the device, thread moved for that purpose.

 

[Biffos]

OK, many thanks for explaining, I understand.

I suppose, running apps on the card slows down the phone, such a card will be slower as the internal storage (the same like using portable programs on an external USB 2.0 hard disk on Windows), I guess.

This is where you will find out how to root the device, thread moved for that purpose.

Hmmm, well, thanks for that.

 

[bubkusjones]

No, I don't believe there really is any speed difference between the internal storage and an SD card. At least not enough of a difference to be noticable.

Anyways, I've looked up your phone and there seems to be a fairly straight forward rooting method.

Root And UnRoot Samsung Galaxy Y Duos GT-S6102 - Root Lord
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284016 (this thread leads to the following)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34215156&postcount=199

 

[Rxpert83]

There can be huge differences in speed depending on the class of the SD card. They aren't all created equal

 

[bubkusjones]

True, but assuming you use a quality SD Card, I would be correct in assuming little-to-no noticable performance differences, right?

 

[Biffos]

Thank you very much for the links, bubkusjones, sounds very easy to root my phone there, I will try it.

Well, I guess, I have one of the cheapest cards bought some years ago, about 3, I assume, "HC CLASS", 4 GB, is written on it.