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  1. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    Myself as well, but that commentary above had less relevance to your post as it did to the thread's theory in general. So while inspired by your observations about the keyboard, that is just one application of this broader-picture change that the market is going through.
    Learning is what brings us all together here, whether we have been here for years or hours- I commend you for recognizing that with level-headed patience, there are times when many frustrated or complacent members have forgotten this.
    Apple has set the bar in many respects, especially the details such as smooth animations, multimedia presentation, and uniformity across fragmenting software iterations. At this point I don't think Android and Windows phone are trying to reach Apple's bar though, I think they are all three moving in their own directions. This can be a very heated issue (for senseless reasons) speculating on "who-copied-who," but I really think they each have different priorities. Apple's priority was to sell iDevices and all that comes with them (iTunes/accessories), but now their goal seems to be to maintain; stay the course, and try to beat back everyone else with a stick (litigation). Microsoft seems to have the same goal- sell phones, but do so by playing to the complaints society has about smartphones (distractions and time-sucking, which is funny because WP7 takes just as long as iOS 5 and Android 4.0 to open the camera, and is the same as Android 1.2+ -since launch- for information display- "tiles" are widgets), although I am not certain how well that will do. WP7 is marketing itself as the in-between of iOS's regularity and uniformity, and Android's innovation, and does seem to be carving a small niche between the two giants. Google doesn't want to sell you (and by "you" I mean "user 1 on device 578231943", not "NazzySmith") Android phones, in fact Google infuriates and puzzles economic speculators (because they do not charge for most of their products & services) by this. Instead Google wants to find out what you search for, where you search for it, what kind of online decisions you make, etc. so they can sell relevant and targeted ads to people looking to sell you stuff. Android is just one tool to do this by, and Google couldn't care less whether you buy Android or iOS, it gets your info from both. This non-interest interest makes them tough to read, but one thing is certain, Android's marketing strategy (from the manufacturers & carriers) is about choice and openness, and as such they really aren't targeting something iOS does and saying "let's do that!", they are saying "how else can we do that?" then they (try to anyways) do it.

    EDIT: I should add that Google doesn't "own" Android (which also generates a ton of confusion, especially in the current court case), Android is an Open Source Project ("AOSP") that is a project of the Open Handset Alliance ("OHA") of which Google is the leading contributor and houses the project. Google bought the company that started Android ("Android Inc." or something like that, founded by Andy Rubin) in 2005, then donated it as a project around 2007- just prior to launch in 2008 I believe.

    Here is Swiftkey, one of my favorites, it is a $3.99 purchase (after a one month free trial) but it is probably the best out there right now, and is skin-able...
    "Swype" is also good but I think is/was limited to just being pre-loaded on devices now...
    Honestly though, I use the voice-to-text (the microphone key on your keyboard) probably 80+% of the time and am extremely pleased with its abilities...
    Excellent! Right now it is the most open of the platforms and with marginal work can take you (and your device) the furthest.

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  2. El Presidente

    El Presidente Beware The Milky Pirate! Moderator

    That's the right attitude. Android is far from perfect and coming from something like iOS, there can be a bit of learning curve. You've to get out the mindset that you're stuck with stock apps for a lot of things (keyboard, browser, SMS app etc), as jonmorris has pointed out.

    Don't be shy with the questions either, we're here to help.
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  3. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member

    Thanks for your thoughts here...

    I feel it is less a matter of like and more about usability...

    Aside from the fact that im used to an Iphone >

    I switch on an Iphone and go to write a message... 99% accuracy at speed...

    I switch on HTC one X and go to write a message... Accuracy and speed decline significantly... Actually the whole experience sucked...

    In my case... It would appear that the smaller buttons on the iphone improves my accuracy and speed...

    Eitherway Im becoming obsessed with this keyboard thing... Its not going to fix itself so Ill head off now and find something more suitable...

    Oh yeah... And im sooooooooo finding this thing buggy... Awesome screen though... im really liking this aspect...
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  4. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member

    Cheers guys...

    Todays issues so far for today...

    1.Woke up this morning to my HTC one X wake up alarm... Went to turn it off and the pull ring was stuck down the bottom of screen again... Had to reset phone...

    2.Accessed my gmail account which I set up a couple of days ago... I click on a reply I recieved... It only shows my email to them and not their reply to me... I openend my email on my PC and the email is fine... No good on my phone... Pushed every button on the screen to try and get it too show... No luck...

    3.The bottom of the screen was flickering about 20 minutes ago... (This has me worried) It has stopped now...

    4. As I type this... The pull ring is stuck again... Time for another reset... I trialled ringing the phone when it is like this... I can't answer it when its like this either... Pull ring also answers the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member

    This ^^^:adore:
  6. El Presidente

    El Presidente Beware The Milky Pirate! Moderator

    I think you might have a faulty screen, the bottom flickers, you have issues with the ring (which is at the bottom of the screen), is the bottom of the screen ever non responsive to touch?
  7. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member


    The ring pull is locked again... When I touch the screeen the ring does not respond ... However when i remove my finger from the screen the ring does a little jump... And the message flashes up the top "Pull the ring to unlock"

    I can touch it anywhere on the screen to do this... The ring does not respond to my initial contact with the screen... Only when I break contact...
  8. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    Yeah man, I hate to say it but I must agree with el Presidente above, I think your unit is defective. I know it isn't Sense 4.0, but I played with my girlfriend's Hero S ( 1.2 GHz single core, Sense 3.0) and it stayed surprisingly snappy through all the paces/bogging down I put it through (killed her battery in like an hour though- she wasn't happy), and the lock screen never had that issue. I don't think it is software- bad digitizer in the screen or something...
  9. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    I hear you, especially with the keyboard any delay or pausing is annoying and gets exponentially more aggravating. Coupled with your other screen issues, could it be a faulty screen (digitizer or equivalent probably)?

    Not to preach about swiftkey again, but they actually have usage statistic that can show you an accuracy statistic, and a map of most used keys- slightly creepy but pretty cool stuff...
  10. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member

    Headed back down to the shop to exhange my one for a new one... Its only been 3 days...

    This phone is like a naughty puppy at the moment... I hope it learns to behave...
  11. El Presidente

    El Presidente Beware The Milky Pirate! Moderator

    Hopefully, you'll have better luck with the new one. Keep us posted.
  12. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    I hope so too... and great analogy! puppies have a way of testing our patience for a while, but they usually turn out to be the best dogs (or sometimes the worst) when the grow up...
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  13. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member

    Back on track.... Fully charged and looking good...
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  14. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    Awesome! Hopefully this one will not have those annoyances and issues for you
  15. webbo254

    webbo254 Member

    I also moved over from an iPhone 3GS and had my One X just over a week and I must say i'm glad I made the change. There are so many more customising options available such as widgets which makes me think now how did I manage with just rows of icons on my iPhone.
  16. nazzysmith

    nazzysmith Member

    Photos are phenomenal when you use the grayscale mono or sepia settings... Shots of the kids look freakin awesome...

    Definitely starting to find ny groove now... My experience with the phone grows day by day...

    Damn keyboard... Still haven't done anything about it yet....
  17. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you're finding your groove; you'll find a keyboard that you are happy with before too long as well...
  18. chief113

    chief113 Well-Known Member

    Really???? I'm shocked how well it works. Is that because you are on ics? It doesn't work nearly as well on my Inspire.
  19. chief113

    chief113 Well-Known Member

    Swiftkey 3 beta is tremendous. It allows you to skip the spacebar.
  20. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    Which feature- the Google Music or the voice-to-text?

    Google Music worked the same on my Atrix as it does on my Galaxy Nexus, but I don't really have too complex of a library- ~ 4GBs and a handful of playlists...

    With the voice-to-text there does seem to be a large improvement over Gingerbread... Groundwork for "Project Majel?"
  21. bradwebber

    bradwebber Member

    Greetings all!

    My HTC One X arrived yesterday. It is my first Android phone and I am slowly getting up to speed.

    When I checked my phone this morning I had two notifications for new emails; one notification was from a Mail app and the other notification was from a Gmail app. I am not sure why two email applications were installed. I tried to uninstall the Gmail app, however it would only let me disable it. So I tried to uninstall the Mail app and it would also only let me disable it. I ended up disabling the Gmail app, but am I missing something here? Why would the phone come with two mail applications and not let me uninstall one of them?

    I have to say, this phone is phenomenal. My only regret is not moving to Andoid sooner.
  22. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    Hello Bradwebber and welcome!

    You have both apps because Google services (and so Gmail) are at the core of much of Android's functionality, and Gmail (as the first Google service beyond "Search") is the hub for that functionality. Because not everyone uses a Gmail account (or has other accounts), Android and HTC's "Sense" UI overlay also includes a separate Mail app so you can use/check your other accounts. Pick whichever app works the best or you like the best, but I don't think you would want to completely disable the Gmail app (some other apps use Gmail to accomplish some of their functionality- like using the voice commands for "Note to Self" or "Send email to..." etc.); maybe just disable the notifications if you prefer the Mail app. Neither are able to be uninstalled because they are "core" apps built into the OS and UI Overlay. If you want to only use the Gmail app for now, delete your account from within the settings of the Mail app.
    Glad to hear it, and don't be shy with questions (or answers you discover)!
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  23. jonmorris

    jonmorris Well-Known Member

    With the rebranding and update of Google Play, and now Google Drive, I think now is the best time for people to take the 'risk' in switching from iOS to Android.
  24. s.m.knipe

    s.m.knipe Well-Known Member

    Do you mean that you expect the services to cease being free, and current users will be "grandfathered" in? Or, do you mean that you expect the conversion process to grow more difficult over the coming years?

    Either way, Google produces the same applications for iOS as they do for Android (although Android's Gmail app is much much better), or at least they have equal access to the same services as Android users- so really (and ideally), the conversion shouldn't be that much of a change (although I realize that most of the conversion process is discovering what else exists beyond Apple's much-referred to "walled-garden").

    I'm not questioning your point, just asking for clarification on the reasoning behind it.
  25. noble.four

    noble.four Well-Known Member

    I think he just meant that Google is doing good things and is becoming an increasingly attractive option.

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