For those of you complaining about the signal bars...General


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  1. tokyoglow

    tokyoglow Active Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hey everyone

    so at the risk of sounding somewhat stupid...I will continue to say this:

    So my virgin mobile phone that I had a while ago had this same problem, but less severe. I had fluctuations in the signal strength. Cover the side of the phone and the signal will go down, uncover, signal goes up.

    Basically what I found, or in this case hypothesize, is that the internal antenna may be somewhere on one of the sides of the phone. When you cover the side the signal bars seem to go down. Hold the phone on the top corner and they may go back up. I've done this in a few places around my usual usage areas and all seem to follow this trend. Im not saying that correlation leads to causation, but im just saying maybe we're overlooking something here.
    This usually happens on the right side


    However, I am puzzled that this would mean flesh interferes with radio waves...


    Also, I'm not complaining or questioning why as I've read several other threads on this issue and side with those who think the bars mean nothing. I've been able to make perfectly good phone calls with 0 bars, no dropped calls, and perfect sound quality.

    oddly enough, lately my bars seem to be more accurate. I have no idea why
     

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  2. deno73

    deno73 Well-Known Member

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    Yup. Know what you mean, but doesn't seem to handicap the phone any. Until it does no complaints from me!
     
  3. smacky

    smacky Banned

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    The sound and call quality may be no different, but the battery will suffer if the phone has to search for signal constantly.
     
  4. A User Name

    A User Name Well-Known Member

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    So what you're saying is, I shouldn't hold my phone if I want to use it with a full signal?..
     
  5. tokyoglow

    tokyoglow Active Member This Topic's Starter

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    no im just saying that the reason for this phenomena is the phone's internal antenna
     
  6. LexusBrian400

    LexusBrian400 Well-Known Member

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    The bars mean nothing. Go into the phone and look for the signal DB's. If I only have one bar, I still have a decibel of over 99, which is pretty good. You should too. Its more than likely a GUI glitch with the bar notifications than it is actually having a lower signal strength, IMHO. Dont worry.
     
  7. pandalee

    pandalee Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I went from 3 to 4 bars before 2.1 down to 1 or 2 after. Call/sound/ connection quality is the same. Part of me thinks this may be the same for the battery GUI as well.
     
  8. ky90025

    ky90025 Active Member

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    The dBm for signal strength is based on a logarithm scale. The 99 you state is actually -99 dBm. So for negative logarithm larger negative values are actually a weaker signal. So -99 dBm is a weaker signal than -90 dBm. Easy way to think of it is -99 is smaller than -90.
     
  9. LexusBrian400

    LexusBrian400 Well-Known Member

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    Glad you caught that, I didn't mean to put 99. My signal fluctuates between -69 and -79 dbm. Even with 1 bar, my 3G speed is outstanding when tethered to my laptop with pdanet. I'm convinced the lack of bars is a minor GUI glitch and has absolutely nothing to do signal strength.

    Thanks for your input.
     
  10. djphatic

    djphatic New Member

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    Glad to hear that it is considered a glitch as I was thinking my nexus one has really bad signal issues.

    Been at a friends house at the top of my street, i had 0 signal bars but I could still make a call. I asked my friends to check there signal one of them on the same network and others on a different network, they all had full signal strength with the various handsets they have. Don't think i've ever had an signal issues with my Nokia 5800 previously.

    Anyone know if this has been raised as a bug?
     
  11. AdmSuvvuk

    AdmSuvvuk Well-Known Member

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    My omnia had the antenna at the bottom. It actually had a sticker on it that cautioned you against holding it at the bottom, saying that it might interfere with reception.
     
  12. carmendiva

    carmendiva Well-Known Member

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    i'm on 2.1
    and when my signal goes down to 0-2 bars
    the signal reception is horrible

    and i hate repeating myself over and over due
    to breaking up on the phone

    or sometimes my phone won't ring

    this happens when I am not near my extended network box at home or school

    however when i'm out...like when i was in florida
    and my signal would go up to 3 bars or higher, the quality was near perfect to perfect
    and I rarely hold my phone...it's usually bluetooth or speaker phone
    so i am not sure about this argument
    however it is something to think about it
     
  13. Bswartz95

    Bswartz95 Well-Known Member

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    I can make calls and text perfectly with 0 - 1 bar, but my battery life is completely garbage in this scenario. The phone thinks it has to work harder to hold the signal.

    I will agree my functionality is the same, but battery life is no comparison when you're working with 4 bars instead of 0 or 1.
     
  14. Ty07allstar

    Ty07allstar Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully we'll see a dramatic increase in battery life when the official release comes out because this whole signal issue thing should get fixed.
     

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