Okay, so I got this friend and this is a really funny story, maybe one part I am wrong on but I highly doubt it. This friend uses a Droid Incredible. We'll call him "Dan". So Dan texts me this morning "Did you see the news? S-Off" me: No, what? Dan: Security Off Me: Elaborate Please Dan: Full nand unlock for radios and Hboot me: for what device or platforms? Dan: the phone, mine and yours, all androids. Dan: I might do it today not sure though Dan: I'll have 720 recording after update and flash with camcorder Dan: So what do you think Me: What is your source? Then he calls me... Tells me its going to give him full nand unlock, be able to flash radios, roms, blah blah blah. Then I said "Dan I've been able to do this for a month or more, we have had full nand unlock. What are you talking about?" So then I finally found a moment to search and read (Unrevoked Forever brings radio S-OFF to HTC Incredible and Evo 4G) Unrevoked - Forever (S-OFF AND NAND UNLOCK TOOL) - Page 21 - xda-developers) I realize it's not Full nand unlock - WE ALREADY HAVE THAT DAN! It's "permanant nand unlock" meaning simply that if you root a phone, then run the method to make "security off" then no matter what, you always have rooted phone. Whether you flash a stock OTA or whatever, it's always rooted and you have the ability to flash a new recovery and go back to custom rom. So I tell Dan via text: Me: as always, you give me bad informatio moron, this is getting ridiculous. Do you read articles in full before calling me or just the first three lines? The s-off simply sets the security to OFF permanantly. Dan: I know what it does Me: and by the way it's PERMANENT nand unlock not FULL nand unlock. ME: No you have no idea what it does, what you have told me is completely wrong. Dan: But it's a lot more for me. Dan: B/c I never had full unlock ME: I did, and thought you did. Me: You told me it gives you 720 recording Dan: I know Dan: The radio will give me 720 Recording Dan: So u don't know anything Me: Radio? Radios have nothing to do with video. Kernels regulate software. Me: it's very clear you are confused. It's not your fault, these things can be confusing. But please stop, it's really irritating. Dan: You are wrong Me: Dan you're telling me a radio is going to give you 720p recording. WRONG WRONG WRONG. Are we actually discussing this? Dan: The new radio update gives me 720 recording and mobile hotspot Me: Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full That's it. Am I incorrect or is this guy a fool?