Galaxy S4 on Metro PCSGeneral


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  1. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    Metro PCS is promoting the S4 as a phone that connects to either the Metro towers or the T-Mobile towers depending on dominance. Been testing this beast of a phone in my home town where a LG phone previously connected to Metro's 4G network consistently, in solid fashion. The S4 either goes no data connection or a paltry "E" - which I assume is EV-DO and voice bars are 1 to none. T-Mobile in my neighborhood has always been slim pickens; Metro is and always has been the bomb (with various other phones...). In a neighboring town awash in T-Mobile 4G, this S4 works great.

    Looks to me that this phone isn't networking switching
    for best performance as advertised.
    Considering the price, that's a shame.

    Anyone else experiencing this type of network connection behavior?
    Or perhaps a setting fix?

    :confused:

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  2. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    Connection in an area awash with HSPA+ wouldn't actually pass data even though the phone AND Open Signal reported 4G.

    The marketing pitch that the S4 switches networks between Metro and T-Mobile is not true - at least not in my signal market. Looks like the S4 is not a Metro compatible CDMA phone.

    This "arrangement" is definitely not ready for prime time!

    Buyers beware...
  3. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    They never advertised it as a CDMA phone, the only ad for this phone is its running on "Nationwide 4G" the phone doesn't even have a CDMA radio its the same exact model as T-Mobiles only GSM/HSPA/LTE


    The phone doesn't even have access to anything Metro not even Metro LTE it all runs on Tmobile
  4. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    And the E your talking about isn't EvDO its EDGE
  5. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    Yes, I am now aware of the "Edge" operation via Open Signal reporting but thanks for pointing that out regardless.

    Obviously WCDMA, which is called out in the Network configuration pages, is a variant not currently enabled or compatible with the Metro PCS CDMA.

    With regard to what is advertised, prior to purchasing the phone, I was informed not by ONE but in fact THREE different corporate store associates - all promoting that the phone auto switches between the two networks.
    Which is obviously completely false and why the website makes no claims in that regard. So technically, there is no "published" advertisement to such functionality but the sales associates ARE extensions of the marketing function and it was their repeated assertions of 4G connectivity on either network that prompted my decision to take the plunge. Live and learn I suppose.

    I'm sure the lines get blurred (in the eyes of this particular Corporate Store) as to what constitutes the Metro networks vs. the T-Mobile network. What complicates matters even more is that Open Signal reports the network beacon as "Metro PCS". Phone trickery? Anybody's guess...
  6. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    Did they specifically say CDMA though?
  7. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    WCDMA (UMTS/HSPA) is not the same as CDMA-2000 (1xRTT/ED-VO). As for misinformed store employees, that unfortunately comes with the territory these days. They aren't payed well enough to attract people who would actually be experts in the field, so you often get people who are just simply looking for a job. :(
  8. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    No. They stated that if I had 4G connectivity in my neighborhood on my LG Spirit, then this phone would switch to that as the dominant connection and that I would achieve 4G performance. CDMA as a mode (name) never came up in the discussions. I already knew T-Mobile coverage was a no go in my neighborhood. That is why I specifically asked about the alleged "network switching" of this phone when I called and again when I actually went to the store prior to making the purchase. All the associates parroted the same capability.
  9. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    My gut tells me that there was a roll-out on these "Nationwide 4G" phones that wasn't presented well by the regional folks. in other words, sloppy training for the roll-out.
    Incidentally, Metro PCS has always advertised nationwide 4G - even prior to the T-Mobile merger. No?

    "Nationwide 4G coverage on Select Phones" doesn't describe jack to the average Joe customer and doesn't lend itself to much distinction from the usual nationwide 4G Metro has always promoted.

    Doesn't mater much in the final analysis.
    If T-Mobile coverage is what you want at slightly more competitive pricing, then it's a solution for some. What these recently added 4G phones are not is a "network switching" option - WCDMA not withstanding.
  10. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    No they had nationwide coverage through a roaming agreement with Sprint. They would've been stupid to market nationwide 4G with the 14 initial markets they had and note the coverage map below it for the said nationwide 4G ad
  11. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    WCDMA is simply just HSPA
  12. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    I was going to say it had to be roaming agreements, because there is no Metro presence in my area. Last I saw, they actually owned spectrum in my area, but never actually used it. But I would probably be inclined to agree that it was either sloppy training or a lack of caring by the employees.
  13. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    You've gone off on a tangent now. It doesn't matter much how they got their market spectrum in various markets, leased or whatnot, my point was simply that they've promoted nationwide 4G long before the merger so the "new devices" thing and how they provided actual coverage is simply fuzzy math - to the average consumer - IMHO.

    I've learned a lot though, here and hands on, and I've come to appreciate Metro's primary, CDMA based network. It's outstanding throughout northern California.
  14. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    The only nationwide coverage metro ever marketed was MetroUSA which was the 1x roaming agreement with Sprint
  15. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    I would have to say that the three associates I spoke with all came across as professional at their grade level, so to speak. And the explanation by three separate associates at three different times was consistent. So in my mind, it wasn't a lack of caring, but rather a simple matter of misinformation;
    intentional or not from higher ups.

    :D
  16. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member


    Double post
  17. Gman9831

    Gman9831 I'm no Senior Guide

    Lmao you'd be surprised with metro employees
  18. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    Maybe that is the way you saw it in Florida, but out here they've been advertising nationwide 4G for quite some time. At least a year - which predates the T-Mobile marriage by quite a bit. But I'm not going to split hairs with you on semantics; you are obviously a career Phandroider.
  19. Epicblaze

    Epicblaze Well-Known Member

    Credibility lost. :smokingsomb:

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