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  1. grungefreak1

    grungefreak1 Member This Topic's Starter

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    Can somebody please explain this to me. I have been looking through a number of forums relating to Android with maps (google). It costs money to use maps with tmobile as a data connection is required. That's fair enough. But some people say GPS is free (albeit heavy on the phone battery).


    What use is GPS without some form of maps?????

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  2. wilbur

    wilbur Member

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    ah.. my lad... this reminds me of the old days... a long, long time ago, we didn't have electronic mapping

    with just the gps data readout you get the joys of;
    a) current speed and direction
    b) distance travelled relative to where you started, or a place you have previously been
    c) use with a paper map (gasp!) and coordinates to tell where you are!

    none of which are as much fun as using it with an electronic map!
     
  3. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    How about a star fix, a compass, a sextant, a paper map, ....

    Even with just GPS you know your position and can plot heading/bearing and speed, as long as you have a watch ... !!!
     
  4. robmal

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    ...or using a database of POIs you could receive a proximity alert... no need for a map at all. Think, road speed camera warnings. I am surprised no one has released such an app yet. There are many suitable databses available of camera locations,
     
  5. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    Well there is already a company making this available as a download update to many dedicated GPS units ... so that the GPS units warn of traffic light cams, speed cams, etc .... dont rememebr the website from the TV add ... or if it is only available for TomTom ???

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    here is one example:

    Red Light Traffic Camera Database
    Overview

    A geocoded database containing US red light traffic camera locations across the Country. This database is available in Garmin CSV format and TomTom OV2 format. It can also be converted to other formats including: Magellan POI Manager, CoPilot Live, Microsoft Streets & Trips, and more.
    Info Link: GPS POI US, LLC - Custom GPS POI Files

    Specifications
    Requirements: Requires an internet connection and a computer to download the file. Requires a GPS device that can be connected to a PC. Requires a GPS device that can support proximity alert files or custom POI files.
    Formats: CSV text file (for Garmin and Magellan), OV2 file for TomTom and CoPilot. Others available on request.
    Platform: Windows
    Price: $25
    Media Type: Download
    Support: 866-850-2533, info@gps-poi-us.com
    Distribution: Direct

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    Traffic Camera Subscription - Destinator
    $25 per year (renewal optional)
    One (1) year subscription to red light camera POI file. Destinator formatted. Updated 03/09/2009

    Traffic Camera Subscription - Garmin
    $25 per year (renewal optional)
    One (1) year subscription to red light camera POI file. Garmin formatted. Updated 03/09/2009

    Traffic Camera Subscription - Magellan
    $25 per year (renewal optional)
    One (1) year subscription to red light camera POI file. Magellan-importable. Updated 03/09/2009

    Traffic Camera Subscription - Mio
    $25 per year (renewal optional)
    One (1) year subscription to red light camera POI file. Mio formatted. Updated 03/09/2009

    Traffic Camera Subscription - Navman
    $25 per year (renewal optional)
    One (1) year subscription to red light camera POI file. Navman-importable. Updated 03/09/2009

    Traffic Camera Subscription - TomTom
    $25 per year (renewal optional)
    One (1) year subscription to red light camera POI file. TomTom Format. Updated 03/09/2009
     
  6. dkaufman1

    dkaufman1 Well-Known Member

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    I was a little confused by your post. GPS signal is free to the users who have a device (G1) that has a GPS chip in it. G1 users in the US have unlimited data (I realize you might be somewhere else where you pay a per data charge). So in that case using GoogleMaps might be cost prohibitive. But in the case of all the suggestions in this thread there is an aspect of data usage for things like a traffic cams or gas stations nearby, etc.

    In addition in the market is an overabundance of apps that would like to use GPS for all sorts of things, such as muting your phone in a certain proximity to a point on earth (gps). So give us a bit more info...as you can see many people here are interested in talking GPS with you.
     
  7. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    Also there are some dev's that have had issue with google over use ot Google Maps in their TOS (terms of Service) ... namely in implementing turn by turn directions with google maps ... there is a least one other (probably more) map databases out there ... that can be used by apps without violating Google's TOS ...
     
  8. dkaufman1

    dkaufman1 Well-Known Member

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    Thinking about this a bit more...it would make sense that like a real GPS I could download a map one time my SD card or just buy it already on an sd card and use it without connecting via 3g/2g with my GPS chip. Not sure if that is what were asking.

    Also as reported on this forum and sister site Phandroid there is a non-US company working on releasing a GPS for the device for EU. A quick search on Phandroid should pull the article.
     
  9. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    There is an app in the Market ... dont recall the name ... that would let you set a route ... it would then save the map tiles to the SDCard .. and make those available during your trip ... and you would not be dependant on data at all for retrieving your map ... (also dont recall if they used google maps or another database) ...

    Awwwh found the one I was thinking Of ...
    BigPlanet is an advanced map application with next features: work in offline mode(without network connection), zoom by double tap, bookmarks, different map sources(OpenStreet, Google Maps), save(cache) map in given radius for use in offline.
    Fixed some bugs with gps and map rendering
    More: bigplanet-maps application for android
     
  10. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    Awwwh found the one I was thinking Of ...
    BigPlanet is an advanced map application with next features: work in offline mode(without network connection), zoom by double tap, bookmarks, different map sources(OpenStreet, Google Maps), save(cache) map in given radius for use in offline.
    Fixed some bugs with gps and map rendering
    More: bigplanet-maps application for android
     
  11. dkaufman1

    dkaufman1 Well-Known Member

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    Jim - your link is busted
     
  12. justjimjpc

    justjimjpc Premium Member VIP Member

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    May have been down temporarly ... up when I Checked is just now ...
    Also same link from Cyrket...

    BTW : NOTE !!! the free version I have had problems getting to work as expected ...
    have not tried the paid version ...
     

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