Root Help Root the Droid!

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  1. ajm144k

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    What's Rooting?

    ---see: here or here

    Benefits of Rooting:

    ---save applications to your SD card
    ---move caches to SD card
    ---remove unwanted applications
    ---flash custom ROMs (possibly with HTC Sense or MotoBlur)
    ---possibility to install a full Linux distro, i.e. Debian
    ---tether via 3G/WiFi without using 3rd party applications (PDAnet)
    ---get multi-touch everywhere (and pinch-and-zoom)
    ---overclock/underclock your processor (but overclocking can be dangerous)
    ---customize your bootup splash screen
    ---change your phones theme (colors and look, etc)
    (Some of the benefits aren't simply automatic. For example, to save applications to your SD card, you need to "unlock" it by going through a documented process. Having your phone rooted will give you the "permission" on your phone to do this process.)


    Dangers of Rooting:

    ---if the rooting process is done wrong (by YOU), it can 'brick' your phone (i.e. you have a VERY expensive, shiny paperweight)
    ---if you have flashed a custom ROM, you will no longer able to receive the automatic OTA updates (but the ROM creator should supply you with updates)
    ---voided warranty


    Links:
    ---Droid Rooting Wiki (A (non-AF-supported) donation fund has been established here with the intention of whoever figures out how to root the Droid first will receive all of the donations)
    ---AllDroid.org Droid Development (Threads regarding development topics such as attempted exploits for rooting the Droid, Droid system dump, etc.)
     

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  2. Backnblack

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    Thought the ETF was $350?
     
  3. ajm144k

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    noo thats the NEW ETF, which didnt kick in until sometime around today actually. Verizon recently changed it from $175 in order to protect themselves from getting ripped off. It starts at $350 and every month goes down $5.

    Let me google that for you
     
  4. CRPercodani

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    Haha so why does he want $450? The ETF is $350 and it goes down $10 every month not $5. When people were trying to gain root access to the G1 they didn't ask for some crazy amount of cash, sounds like someone is just trying to make a quick buck. Real dev community don't do it for the cash.
     
  5. Fabolous

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    This is why he needs $425.
     
  6. Backnblack

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    So....why you googling anything for me? You reply is irreverent to my post...
     
  7. Backnblack

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    true....If you wanna do it, just do it..... don't try to scam people...Yes, I said scam.
     
  8. CRPercodani

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    Ahh well I see he knows what he is talking about. I've never been keen on paying someone to get root but if all else fails then I guess I can throw in $25 or $50.
     
  9. ajm144k

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    thanks. (guys, you have to actually READ the post that I linked.)
     
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  11. ajm144k

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    umm, because you said the ETF was $350 and it was only $175. You could have easily found that out if you searched before you posted, so I was just lending a helping hand to show I wasn't just making it up about the new ETF.

    so it was actually completely relevant to your misinformed post.

    ugh, man. if money grew on trees...



    anyways...
     
  12. CRPercodani

    CRPercodani OFWGKTA
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    Ok you made your point. Lets keep it clean now ok guys. (both of you)
     
  13. ajm144k

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    Awesome, in less than 5 hours!
     
  14. CRPercodani

    CRPercodani OFWGKTA
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    They should get in touch with the guys from phonewreck.com, they have dismantled a DROID already so might have some pointers because they said it was pretty tricky finding all the T6's.
     
  15. QrafTee

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    I didn't know rooting wasn't backed by the Android team. I always thought since it was an open platform... Hm...
     
  16. Cruzatte

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    Couple of questions on behalf of the non-techies here. First, what's the value of rooting the device? Does it open doors in terms of functionality or customizability or trans-network service? And on top of all that... what does "root" mean?

    Thanks, from the bottom of my noob heart.
     
  17. CRPercodani

    CRPercodani OFWGKTA
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    It may be backed by the Android team BUT not by Motorola, and it is thier device which they have to offer support for which becomes increasingly difficult when anyone can have super user access.
     
  18. Backnblack

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    I would give a stab at the answers but I am sure someone on a pedestal will be along soon....
     
  19. QrafTee

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    "Rooting" is essentially the Android's version of "jailbreaking." Although it's already an open platform, there are certain areas of the phone that is locked to prevent tampering and withhold the "integrity" to the manufacturer's "standards." Rooting the phone allows one to flash the ROM, run a different OS, run a different UI build, run a custom build, unlock features locked away for one reason or another, and/or even install fixes by third party developers instead of waiting for official updates by the manufacturer.

    That's my understanding anyway, I may be wrong.
     
  20. writhum

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    Well put. I'm just curious as to whether or not rooting the phone voids any type of warranties.
     
  21. bcromwell

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    Will send 10$, Can't hurt. Guy sounds like he has the correct hardware/knowledge to pull it off, assuming there is a jtag port.
     
  22. syntrix

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    If I read the attached image of the "exploit", it's just a potential way of presenting a new bootloader?

    It's not specifically a way to root the droid, but a method to get access to potentially root it!

    I've only poked around, where is the password file? Give it to me and I'll launch servers on the hash to break it down ASAP!

    I am new to droid, is this a way to get access to the OS, but not necessarily the user account known as "root"?
     
  23. bcromwell

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    There is no 'god' account on the phone that needs to be cracked, we are trying to get root level access on a phone that is designed to keep all apps at user level access so to speak. The only thing that we might be able to be brute forced in the future is the Motorola private key that is used to sign new patches/roms. Have to wait for the first patch to even get the public key that would need to be cracked.
     
  24. CRPercodani

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    I'm not sure what other OS you could run, besides something based on Linux like Debian.
     
  25. galt

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    A few more potential uses for rooting:


    • creating viruses
    • hacking secured information like passwords and personal info
    • hijacking other people's phone service
    • overdriving the hardware, making potentially dangerous devices
    • making it worthwhile to steal droids (high black market value)
    • etc
    It sure would be nice to see some of these smart people use their time and energy on more worthwhile pursuits.
     

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