Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by bonerp, Apr 13, 2010.
How do you do this?
Sorry for the numpty question!!!
You use a task killer to be 100% sure
Download something like "Advanced Task Killer" from the Market its Free
did they forget to design an 'off' switch lol!?
As manamal said, Advanced Task Killer
scan this QR with a bracode app to get to the market and download
yea go figure - maybe they were just showing off - because of the number of apps that can run at same time..
The android system was designed to manage its own memory. Within android there is no such thing as "closing" an app.
Basically the OS manages its memory, and manages the apps running or idling in the background itself, closing those not required if/when memory is required. The apps also run in the background using little or no system resources.
Your question is common amongst newbies to android, thinking that google missed out on something fundamental. They didn't. To quote myself from another similar thread, this isn't Windows, it doesn't act like Windows and you shouldn't treat it like Windows
Finally, you do not need a task killer with the HTC Desire, it is likely to cause you more problems than any benefits it may provide.
thanks all. I've just come from n900 so agree these things behave nothing like your desktop.
I assumed the usage of memory was as per your reply.
I suppose its just new so these quirks will wash out over the coming days as I learn more about the device.
I have LG GW620 handset but there is no file transfer facility through bluetooth. help me in this regard.
awiting for any good reply.
thanks in advance.
I was thinking of getting a N900 before going for the Desire. How would you compare the N900 to the Desire?
The N900 is a hacker's dream. Totally open, you can do anything to it. Definitely not targeted for the average consumer.
The Desire targets the average consumer who wants everything in one phone.
So after finishing with an app its normal and ok just press the back button to your home screen then, is that the app closed or still running in the background?
I appreciate that it manages its memory etc but surely unclosed apps are going to use up battery? The CPU has to service those idling apps and that uses battery. If you go to:
settings > about phone > battery > battery use
This shows the battery used by each app, which is why I quite like "Advanced Task Killer" for closing things properly. I've not experienced any problems using it yet
I'd say the Desire goes beyond that. Its a mile ahead of the iPhone.
Re the N900, needs work. Great browser. Great to customise and REALLY personalise. Apps are easy to build - if you are minded that way. But misses that mark for basic stuff like phone app, music app.
My fav is the desire. N900 is up for sale. Desire is stable as a rock esp as its a preorder phone. My n900 was a mare for a few weeks til the first update came along. Its better now. The next update will transform it.
I am with Raider on this - I found prior to using the "Advanced Task Killer" my battery would just not last - the handset was a "Dawn 'til Dusk" handset..
However I am quite interested in what lekky is saying about..
"Finally, you do not need a task killer with the HTC Desire, it is likely to cause you more problems than any benefits it may provide."
What makes you say this are you aware of adverse effects by running the task killer? I ask because when I reboot my phone the Advanced Task Killer is one of the Notifications that I get - As an Ongoing. It tells me to go to Menu->Settings to disable this.
Why - Any ideas?
I'm a typical newbie Desire owner, coming from Symbian, so Advanced Task Killer was one of the first things I installed.
My Desire has been silky smooth at all times and absolutely reliable, EXCEPT when I've used the task killer to force the close of some apps. A couple of times I've closed apps like this and it completely killed the phone, once I even had to take out the battery cause it wouldn't shut down.
So heed this lesson well, fellow n00bs, the people who warn us about these task killers are right, there's really no need for them!
Sorry to bump an old (ish) thread but I think it's important to give the end user some control over what's running on their device should they need it. I think not having an "Exit" option on apps is just plain daft!
I've just had my HTC Desire delivered and find it quite frustrating that i can't close the apps i want by myself. Take, for example, HTC Peep... i started using this by default & it's running in the background using up my twitter api requests. I then download Twidriod and start using that... it's also using my twitter api requests. Both are using my network connection & battery. How do i tell my phone that i don't want one of these apps running anymore... without a task manager or shutting it down ?
You could open Peep and remove your account details. I don't use twitter, so I'm not sure if you need to remove it from accounts and sync also.
When they're in the back ground, apps shouldn't use any CPU or battery, as they are essentially frozen.
(Only poorly written apps will and you can kill these in Menu>settings>applications>manage settings.)
However, apps that are syncing data will use resource.
- hitting the back key until you are back at the home screen "exits" the application;
- hitting the home button jumps away from the application leaving it in the state it was, and how you should find it again if you return to it (via long pressing the home key for example)
Do not worry about applications sitting in memory. Used memory is more efficient than empty memory.
(edit: sorry, a rather general answer from me, not really to the point for davey_lad)
just to add,
some apps have an 'exit' option in the menu list, and you can close other apps that dont to a dormant state by pressing the back button until you get back to the homescreen.
edit: lol, great minds think alike...
This is true. Unused memory is useless memory.
There is hte option to have some control if you're that way inclined, plenty of task managers on the market. For the average user it's not required.
Found an interesting write up here.
Agreed. Maybe we can put this task killer thing to bed once and for all.
I used to have an app killer but removed it, I've had no problems at all with not closing apps - you are absolutely right, it's a Windows mentality thing but it is difficult to get your head round it!
The whole app killer idea seems to be based on saving battery power but I've found that the single biggest battery saver is to turn off mobile data (using HTC's own "mobile" widget) and only switch it on when you need to. When it's on I use the Synch All widget and when it's finished I turn Mobile off again - the phone can still send and receive calls and texts. My battery lasts for ages now.
I'm new to Desire and still finding out just what it can do, but wanted some good advice:
Plenty of people say that there is no need for task killers with the desire which ends the apps itself. How do I therefore get the alarm clock to work - it seems that the phone turns this off when I switch the screen off (although I realise that powering down the entire phone prevents the alarm from working).
Second question - when I go out and then back into the internet browser it opens with the page I was looking at before. Is there any way to have it opening at the home page (that is faster than pressing Menu then tapping >More Home?