How to go from S-On to S-Off?


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  1. mrfancypants13

    mrfancypants13 Member This Topic's Starter

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    I'm trying to unroot my phone to obtain the 2.2 update and cannot find any information on how to get my phone back to S-Off.

    Does anyone have a guide or any links or anything to help a brother out?

    Thanks in advance.
     

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  2. ACD168

    ACD168 Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand. "back to S-OFF" S-OFF requires root, and stands for security off, meaning nand unlock.

    but you do want s-off if you are looking to root with 2.2

    everything you need is at unrevoked
    click on incredible, then unrevoked forever is s-off, and s-on

    enrevoked3 is for root.

    if you need more help let me know.
     
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    mrfancypants13 Member This Topic's Starter

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    I guess that proves how lost I am. I unrooted my phone and back to 'out-of-box' state. I watched a video stating I needed to be at s-off to get the update. Any truth in that?
     
  4. sabrewings

    sabrewings Well-Known Member

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    You don't need to be S-off. Being S-off will allow you to stay rooted after the update, though. Without it you will be stuck.
     
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    mrfancypants13 Member This Topic's Starter

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    So I can use unrevoked forever to stay rooted and still get the update?
     
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    sabrewings Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Once you have S-off you have to go back to the stock recovery to receive the update, though.
     
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    mrfancypants13 Member This Topic's Starter

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    Once I get unrevoked forever, how do I get back to the stock recovery?

    Excuse the ignorance.
     
  8. ACD168

    ACD168 Well-Known Member

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    No worries, you just need to do the same thing you did to un-root basically with the PB31IMG.zip file and flashing in HBOOT. I think you will want to use the first video from the stock thread "downgrade" by rooting.
     
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    windycity Well-Known Member

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    unrevoked forever is not related to the recovery. It simply turns off the security checking allowing you to reflash a recovery (and subsequently obtain root). I get scared when I see these types of questions. "Rooting" and general phone hacking is not an activity for the casual user.
     
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  10. Muerte_X

    Muerte_X Well-Known Member

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    Why would you unroot? You can install one of several ROM's based on the new update, or even the full untouched version.

    S-off is a very simple process, ridiculously easy. I think the INC is one of the easiest phones to root, after helpiing my friend root his Evo and that was even with something called simple root, lol.

    If you unrooted, and want S-off, you're going to have to root again.

    All the instructions are laid out nicely on the unrevoked website. You may want to read over carefully to ensure that you don't brick your phone in the process.
     
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    mrfancypants13 Member This Topic's Starter

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    I had previously rooted my phone. It was simple and did it with ease. The only reason I ask how to get to s-off is that I heard you have to have that for the official update - which is what I'm ultimately trying to ready my phone for. I don't want to mess with the custom ROMs out there, as I'm not comfortable after hearing horror stories.

    So with s-on as my current status, I'm prepared for the official update?
     
  12. JollyGreenGiant

    JollyGreenGiant Active Member

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    If you are "fresh out of the box" with the stock recovery (i.e. not rooted) you will get the offical update OTA whether or not you have s-off or s-on.
    If you have s-on, you may never get root back (although early reports are you should be able to). If you have s-off, getting root back is easy and guaranteed after you get the OTA
     
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  13. willowave

    willowave Well-Known Member

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    lol ok so let me get this straight. I can get the OTA update when my phone is set to S-Off?
    And an offhand questions since I probably have someones attention already. If I installed the official Froyo thru the ROM manager or whatnot (instead of getting the OTA) then do I still have my apps ect? Or will it be like a ROM where everything would be new?
    I just got my phone 2 weeks ago, rooted after a week. I'm familiar with linux ect, but this is my first smartphone. Trying to figure out the semantics of it. I'm a computer tech, so I have some ideas.
     
  14. JollyGreenGiant

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    S-off is deeper in the architecture than the update. You can get the update with s-on or with s-off. It does not matter. What does matter is if you want the update via OTA, the way verizon intends for you to get it, then you need to be on the stock recovery and not rooted. If you want to apply the update via the signed RUU, then you need to be on the stock recovery and not rooted. Pretty much any other method of getting 2.2 requires root.
    Whether or not your phone gets wiped with the update depends on how it is applied. The verizon OTA will not wipe your phone. Applying the signed RUU will wipe your phone. Any other method and you should wipe your phone before updating.

    If you are still confused, I would suggest not doing anything until you have done a lot more research.
     
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  15. willowave

    willowave Well-Known Member

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    Nope that answers my questions thanks. Now I just need to decide if I want to unroot cuz I'm not sure I have the time to do custom roms and redo my setup. But then I also take the chance of not being able to re-root after Froyo, correct?
    *Nevermind, I just went up and re-read some of what you posted earlier. Thanks : )
     

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