I find this weird on Motorola's part..


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  1. recklesslife

    recklesslife Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hi guys,

    Finally got my hands on 2.0.1 for the Milestone today and to my shock we now have a equalizer for the music player. Now am I right in think you guys with the Droid dont have this option on 2.0.1? Battery life seems a lot better also.
     

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  2. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Milestone is not a "Google Experience" phone. As Rubin explained, phones like the Milestone will be different from their GE-counterparts (i.e. DROID). At least, this is how Rubin is explaining multi-touch pinch on the Milestone and perhaps this additional functionality that you are experiencing with the Milestone. Motorola also said that it will roll out additional functionality to non-GE phones.
     
  3. vincentp

    vincentp Well-Known Member

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    I'm still curious as to Google's mysterious reasoning for the lack of multitouch implementations. And they have an EQ too? We've been asking for that for a while. What's your plan, Google?
     
  4. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

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    There's one reason I can think of off the top of my head: there are MANY legal issues to consider when rolling out multi-touch in Apple's backyard. Presumably in Europe, the anti-trust issues loom larger than the patent-protection issues so Motorola and Google are more than willing to provide the functionality. In the litigious US, they may have thought that it wasn't worth the risk until first assessing how irritated Droid and N1 users would be without that functionality. Who knows, because so many people have complained, perhaps they will think it worth the cost/risk.

    As for an equalizer, I can only imagine that Google expects third-party coders to provide tools for the OS. Hence, they offered a vanilla platform for music. And surely it is cold consolations to users that want EQs: I always leave the settings off since good headphones/earphones are able to capitalize on the undistorted source material. But yes, I know...many Droidsters love their TREBLE and BASS maxed out.
     
  5. vincentp

    vincentp Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't the Pre have multitouch in the U.S. though?
     
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    teschoen Well-Known Member

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    We have multi-touch, but we have to use 3rd party apps to utilize it.

    I, for one, don't like "Pinch" zoom and am quite happy with it the way it is.
     
  7. messenger13

    messenger13 Well-Known Member

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    Be patient kids. The DROID will have multi-touch everything sometime this year. ;)

    As for an EQ ... I'm a lifelong musician and sound engineer and I still don't understand the need for it. And every time I ask someone what their application is, I get ignored.
     
  8. Fabolous

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    I have a feeling this will be ported over to the Droid very soon.
     
  9. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but do you know how many patents Apple is in violation of that belong to Palm? I think if Apple wants to go after Palm about pinch, Palm would sit calmly from their board room chairs saying, "Bring it on... I dare you, Mr. Jobs." That being said, their market share isn't being threatened at the moment, which is why Nokia is FINALLY going after Apple for IP infringement. Apple will likely have to settle in that case, but they'll keep "copy-catting" Nokia's complaints against them until inevitably, the court rules in Nokia's favor (considering there are a handful of precedence supporting Nokia).
     
  10. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Since Google a$$-kicked the DROID out of the pure "Google Experience" camp (where the N1 resides and perhaps Motorola's next phone), I believe the DROID will have a few goodies coming its way, including MT/Pinch and hopefully an option to run Blur.
     
  11. vincentp

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    You're right that it's really not technically necessary - or at least it shouldn't be if everything was recorded the same way - but going through low-range earbuds which are less than accurate in certain frequency ranges, it would be nice to be able to make some adjustments.
     
  12. Shadowtech

    Shadowtech Well-Known Member

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    I like how any google employee, when asked about multitouch, simply says the platform supports it and is already implemented. When asked for an example they just mention the keyboard. You can tell they know damn well what the real question is, that being pinch/zoom, yet they all continue to act clueless on the issue. Stating how it's not something they felt hey needed to put into their "experience" they wanted to give users.. yet the vast majority of users are asking for it.

    It's pretty obvious the reason they haven't added it is because they don't want to deal with Apple. When asked why the Milestone has it, when it is essentially the same product as the Droid.. they state they have nothing to do with the Milestone. The real reason it has it is because in Europe they don't have to deal with the same crap they would if the US version had it.

    Instead of just straight up answering the question they want to sit there and act like they have some amazing insight on how the device "should" be used knowing full well people don't want it that way. Just watch the Engadget Show episode where they interviewed Eric Tseng to see how he constantly side steps the real question.
     
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    Shadowtech, spot on. Though, I'd REALLY love to have multi-touch for the onscreen keyboard improvement also!
     
  14. Hegemony

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    The argument that Apple "owns" multitouch if a poor one. Any patents Apple has are incredibly weak, and they know it. They would never go to court just to get their patents (if there are really any applicable ones) invalidated.

    It isn't just Palm that does MT in the US. Look at the HTC Sense UI phones. And what about Windows 7? It has MT built in as well now. Are you telling me Apple wouldn't love to stick it to Microsoft? There is a TON of preexisting work on MT. Apple doesn't own it, and they know it.
    On the plus side, they're finally catching flack for it. Hopefully they're starting to realize they have to get around to implementing it. Whether it was due to a secret deal, laziness, or fear that Apple would try to complain (and fail, as I stated above) maybe they will finally move on this.
     

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