I own them both! Real world quick comparo...General


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  1. mlc331

    mlc331 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I first purchased my Moto Droid about 2 weeks after it was released through Verizon. It was my best scenario phone after coming from the iphone. Yes, I loved the iphone but had to get away from the EVIL AT&T. The service was HORRIBLE and had to pay to get out. I actually lost sleep over the loss of the iphone :eek:

    The Moto Droid filled that whole nicely but there were some things I didn't like. The form factor was not so good. Like a brick in your hand, the thing was heavy, too square, buttons were placed in a non-caring fashion and things didn't always work so great. The phone rebooted on a regular basis and then the first update came. The reboot issue was GONE. I learned to live with it until an employee of mine brought in an Eris. I loved the look, the feel and the user interface. I used that Eris for about 3 weeks or so. I then tried to sell the Moto Droid on ebay.... It sold quickly but the JERK never paid. So I thought "what the heck", I've got both phones (Eris and Moto Droid), lets play a bit and give them a real comparison.

    It's been about a week and a half now and I just recieved the 2.1 for the Droid Moto. As before, the clunky-ness of the Droid is still there DUH!!! ;).
    While I'm learning to live with it, it still makes me long for the feel of the Eris.


    Form:
    The Eris still blows the Droid away. The hard button layout is fantastic. The soft edges combined with the solid feel of a light phone is pretty amazing. The slide out keyboard on the Droid is ridiculous. I know that somewhere there is a guy thinking... "boy, did I screw that keyboard thing up".
    Result - ERIS by a landslide

    Feel:
    The Droid and Eris seem to be well built, and both have fantastic screens. Bright, vivid and warm all in the same breath. The Droid doesn't feel as nice as the bulkiness is realized right away. The lack of the track ball or an accessable pointer on the Droid is a pain. Of course you can slide out the keyboard, but thats just one more step. :mad:
    Result - Eris

    Screen:
    The screens on both phones are amazing. I would say that they are pretty sick even when compared to the Iphone. The Eris is smaller, but it doesn't feel that much smaller as it preforms well. Both screens seem to be equally sensitive MOST of the time. Based on the fact that they are similar with the exception of size. The Droid wins this cat. Mostly on size alone. :p
    Result - Moto Droid

    Software:
    This is a mixed bag. The applications are pretty standard to both phones (in my experience), however the user interface is where things get grey. The Eris uses an interface which puts you in a more enjoyable setting and offers you more involvement. It isn't as steril and quite frankly is more... well, FUN. The Droid does a great job of getting you involved, but it's not as fun. The Droid can be maid to be more fun through the use of downloadable widgets and backgrounds, but it's not quite the same.
    Result - Eris, but only by a skoshe.

    Usability:
    This is where things changed dramatically for me. While it would seem that by all measures, the Eris wins... But there is something here that is a mis with the Eris. Call it "SUPPORT", call it "DEVELOPEMENT", call it, well, "NOT DONE". You might even be able to blame a little bit of the problem on processing power, and maybe even the battery. The fact that this is the CHEAPER phone might even be some of the problem. Let me explain. Because it's cheaper, and not the center of attention, I believe that it's getting less support. Less support by Verizon, by Android Developers and even HTC. The Eris has an NOT-DONE feel. Kind of like a good steak that could be the best steak you ever had. Just not cooked quite the way you wanted it. Wasn't seasoned just the way the menu detailed. Some applications don't work out of the box. Some of the stock stuff just doesn't work. Even the loudness at which the music plays isn't great. It also just doesn't sound as good as the Droid whether it's through earphones or the speaker when talking on the phone. The battery is a different animal all together. I chose to use a task killer after about a week of 7 hours of life per day. After the task killer, I got about 10-12 hours of life (which I'm perfectly happy with - but always could use more). The Droids battery life is up to about a day and a half with a task killer. Honestly, I don't even worry about the battery with the droid. With the Eris, it's in the forefront of my thoughts while using the phone. The Eris isn't always as sensitive to my touch as I would like it to be. Then, of course, there is a problem with being a little slower while navigating through the phone and it's many uses. Even trying to use the phone... It's slow on some tasks. Isn't this what the default use was supposed to be? As of this morning I recieved the 2.1 update for the Droid. It works... no issues and while some have reported a slower frame rate once the Droid is updated, it doesn't play movies any different. They still look fantastic. The update wasn't huge, but again it had some cool stuff in it. It's made it more user-friendly. Seems like everything works. Thats really all I want the Eris to be able to do.
    Yes, I can install the leak into the Eris. But for common users, this isn't a great option. Once we do that, we could be voiding our warranty. We could be messing up possible updates in the future. Many will say that "no you aren't messing up any future updates" but who REALLY KNOWS??? If you TRULY knew... you would have probably developed your own UPDATE!! :eek:
    Result - Motorola Droid.

    In the end, I've got to give it to the Motorola Droid. It doesn't feel as nice, it doesn't look as nice and it surely laid out better. But at the end of the day, I need something that works. I need better support, and I want something that is not going to take a back seat when it comes to updates.

    I've been reading non-stop in the ERIS section... not so much in the Moto Droid section. Maybe that, in and of itself, is the true test. I probably wouldn't be reading as much in the Eris section if it worked better. I'm hoping that the Eris gets 2.0-2.1. I'll keep both until then. I hope that it's a HUGE update for the Eris. It needs to be better cooked and better seasoned. When they get it back from the chef, we'll then have a phone that.... WORKS.
     

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  2. BlueDC2

    BlueDC2 Well-Known Member

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    Nice write up man. I have the leaked 2.1, and my brother has a moto droid. 2.1 is pretty snappy, and once you do some tinkering, you can get things set the way you want and it's great. The only things I would take from my brothers phone is the processing power, slightly higher screen resolution, and of course the developer attention (I am NOT saying that the eris dev's don't try hard enough or anything like that, the droid is just simply the bigger ticket item and will obviously get more support by default)
     
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    Very nice comparison. Enjoyed the read.
     
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    +1 we have both also

    Sent from my Eris using Tapatalk
     
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    +1 on almost all counts. There are obvious advantages of the Eris over the Droid in size and form factor, but those get pushed to the background after you "get to know" it.
     
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    Wow, this was absolutely great!

    I got the Eris about three weeks ago (because I couldn't stand the wait for the Incredible) and I'm beginning to think I'm going to take it back. For me, the Eris is just too small, cutesy . . . I feel like I'm holding a baby and I'm going to break it.

    Prior to this, I had an original orange EnV that I absolutely loved. Perfect keyboard, size, curves, everything and orange is my favorite color. Obviously way outdated technology, and like any self-respecting geek, I had to upgrade.

    The Eris is cool and it has taught me much about the Android platform but the extremely short battery life, the crappy phone, and the lag are definitely problems. I have reset the phone several times, removed widgets, have no apps installed, nothing but the very basics and the phone keeps getting worse and worse. Yesterday it force closed because the virtual keyboard app died. That was just sad.

    Thanks for sharing this information, it will definitely help me figure out what to do!
     
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    Romparoo Well-Known Member

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    I enjoyed the write up. I have never liked any Motorola phone I have ever owned. I have tired 3 different ones in the past and have returned all of them within my 30 days. So for me it was very clear choice to get the Eris over the Droid.

    As far as battery life, lagging, and other issues some users are complaining about with their Eris, I am not having any of those problems. I did install 2.1 v1 and then v2, yes, it did give me some problems at first, having to sign into gmail/market all the time, some apps not working and force closing, some settings not staying selected, but now after a few days it seems that the phone has corrected itself and runs smoothly and flawlessly. I do wish it had a faster processor, that concerned me a little when I picked it over the Droid.

    I do agree that the Eris is getting less attention to service and such from Verizon, and now that the Eris is on EOL it will probably be treated as a stepchild.

    I am an HTC fan from when I had their Touch on Windows Mobile 6. They make fantastic phones with smart functionality that most other cell phone makers can't quite get right. I am very excited for the Incredible and future phones HTC comes out with.

    Thanks again for the great comparison.
     
  8. mlc331

    mlc331 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    ***UPDATE***

    My wife is still using her HTC Eris and has been complaining about the battery life. I thought I had installed ATK on the phone when I put it on mine. I was incorrect.... I didn't put it on there.

    But I digress,

    My wife has about every single wallpaper, game, ring tone, sound wall piece of garbage application on her phone. Must be 30 applications that were down loaded over the last 2 weeks. What a mess... Just keeping up with the updates would drive me crazy! :eek:

    Yesterday she got really upset when her phone lasted about 4.5 hours on a full charge. I took a look at it this morning, figured out that I didn't put ATK on and decided to download ANOTHER APPLICATION. Because ATK requires you to manually kill apps at times, I decided to go with an automatic killer. Less for her to worry about :D
    The phone is in it's 4th hour now and the battery bar has not moved. I understand that task killers are the subject of great debate, but I for one use them and now my wife does. I am using the Automatic Task Killer on my droid and I'm getting almost 2 days on normal use. Prior to the killer, I was about a good day of use and that was it.

    Yes, I still have my Eris and STILL waiting for the update.... :rolleyes:

    Hope to see it soon so I can update this comparo again!

    Thanks for checking in.
     
  9. tmbarta

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    Thanks for the great review. I have the Droid and love it. I've been thinking about getting the Eris for my girlfriend at the end of April, when her renewal comes up. She currently has the original LG Chocolate and wasn't planning on getting a smartphone, but I think she would love it. She's not a techie like me and just wants things to "work", so I want to make sure she's not going to have any issues just being able to use it as a phone, if that makes sense.

    Thanks again and will be looking forward to any updates.
     
  10. p2ii

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    Good write-up...thanks!
     
  11. smacky

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    The Droid >>>>>>> the Eris. You won't come out and say it straight, but some of us feel the same way you do. I can look past the size of the Droid and would take the power and screen-size and HD output over the size of the Eris.

    Some of us will spend the next year and a half kicking ourselves, but I know, for next time, I'm going with the powerful device.

    I've never seen a root scene for a phone so dead. The G1 is still getting new ROMs. I couldn't even tell you how many quality ones the Eris has. A true economic phone, indeed.
     
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    standard mini usb
    Nuff said
     
  13. Scynthetic78

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    This is kind of a misleading statement. Considering that it's been rooted for less than a month, it's not hard to understand why there aren't a lot of ROMs available yet. And to make things worse, a large portion of the community that is capable of cooking roms are on an OS version that hasn't been rooted yet. There's still a lot of work going on behind the scenes that we never hear about simply because it's unsuccessful. I really think that once 2.1 is rooted (whatever version of it), we'll be seeing a lot more in the root/ROM scene.
     
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    The fact that the Android OS is fragmented is bad enough. What does a phone's OS being fragmented tell you? Not to mention it took five months for a root on a phone that already existed once as the Hero.

    So while my previous statement doesn't take into account the fact that people are on three different versions of an OS, it still shows that there is no dev scene.
     
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    The fragmented OS tells me that like any group of tech junkies, we're early adopters with little patience. :p (For that matter, if the 2.1 leaks wouldn't have popped up, we'd probably all be rooted and swimming in ROMs :( ) The fact that it took 5 months to get root just says that HTC/Verizon did a pretty damn good job of sealing up the known vulnerabilities to the previous releases of the OS.

    As far as I know, there are 8 or maybe 10 ROMS out right now, all of which are based on an OS that nobody has a source code for yet. I'm guessing that there are more floating around that I haven't heard about too, as well as ones that are still being tested. That doesn't seem all that bad for 3 weeks of work on something that's extremely unfamiliar. Once the source code is released and 2.1 itself is rooted, I'd be willing to bet a lot more people start jumping in and cooking ROMSs, as well as porting current ones from other phones to the Eris.

    I'm not saying that we have anywhere near the amount of development that the G1 has. I'm just saying that you need to consider how new it is, and that with a little time, it should take off quite a bit.
     
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    So you're saying the Eris has fewer exploits than the cash-cows that are the Droid and Nexus One? The Nexus One isn't all it's been made out to be. It's raw power with very little refinement. The screen, from what's been published, sucks, the 3G has issues (and believe it or not, it isn't T-Mobile's crappy service this time!), and the pretty exterior flakes like crazy, leaving paint everywhere.

    But the Eris is more fortified than those two? I doubt it. I said the Eris was an economical phone as well as an entry-level phone. I'm sure we all knew that when buying it for $100 or more less than the Droid. But now the scene for the Eris doesn't include dedicated hackers. All the hackers know what's new and coming out, so they go for those. So who gets the 0-day rooting? The Incredible, the Desire, Legend. The Droid, the Nexus One, and even the Hero, when it was released. But for the Eris to come out now, it's months too late, not to mention a rehash of the Hero. It's not getting any attention from people that actually hack/mod phones for a living.

    Not a slight against the guys working on the Eris now, but being subscribed to just about everything knowledgeable on phones on Reader, I see ROMs left-and-right for the Droid, G1, N1, and Hero, and none for the little guys.

    This isn't something you can "research" BEFORE buying the phone. You either have been into phones before buying your first smartphone and you make a more informed decision, or you take the plunge and learn as you go along.

    Most of us are doing the latter. Money was an issue for me (since my parents were buying the phone, I figured I'd simmer down a bit), but also a lack of experience with smartphones. Had I know that the Droid was in another league than the Eris, I would've sold myself on the streets of Birmingham to make up the extra $100 to get a Droid.

    It doesn't look pretty, but it's a damn powerful phone, the Droid. I don't carry a purse (too much to worry about) so the size of the Eris only comes in handy....never, really. I would have done fine with a brick.

    We'll see how this pans out.
     
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    As soon as I heard about the droid I wanted one. Ive always been a motorola fan, they are an american company and all. Unfortunately they ruined the phone by making it 1. ugly as sin (stupid chin thing, if they got rid of that it would look better/ be smaller). 2. keyboard sucks, I had an env touch and a voyager before that, best cellphone keyboards in the business, even the env2/3 which my sister has have better keyboards than the droid, and they are very small phones in comparison. Also the sliding mechanism feels very cheap and the dpad is crap. Im glad I got my eris, because now I get sense, im still running 1.5 until the ota comes out and people make a custom rom based on it. If my eris was a little bit faster I would be more than happy to keep it until a phone as powerful as the EVO/ Desire/ Incredible comes out in a formfactor of this size
     

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