I really want to like my desire but really need convincing


  1. slugger09

    slugger09 Well-Known Member

    I got an HTC Desire today from Orange UK, I am coming from iPhone and wanted to leave over the IOS4 cock up and I just wanted to get away from Apple in general. But I have a few annoyances with the Desire that are making me want to stay with Apple to be honest.


    • General build quality is poor compared to the iPhone, its made of cheap plastic
    • Its just not as polished or user friendly as the iPhone
    • There seems to be a lot of thinking involved where as the iPhone there was none
    • Speaker volume distorts when turned up
    • Headphone volume is really low, which is an issue as I listen to my iphone all day at work and don't think i'd be able to hear this
    • Radio reception is poor even on strong signals
    • Horrible Orange rubbish on it, can it be removed?
    • Battery life seems poor, when I put the battery in it was half full, it was flat 10 mins later
    • Seems to be a wifi issue if you debrand

    So can any of these issues be resolved?

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  2. anoniemouse

    anoniemouse Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum

    You will probably find the thinking is where the 2 phones are different, it will seem like 2nd nature after a little while.
    Battery life improved on mine after a few charges/discharges, most poeple on here get a day or more per charge i often get 3 days.
    Orange branded handsets are a pain i debranded mine to get rid of the orange crap.
    You can also go the rooting road & install custom roms too.
    Some people get better or worse reception depending where they live.
    Never had any problems with my headphone volume, try a different pair of headphones.
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  3. TheTrueSpin

    TheTrueSpin Well-Known Member

    General build quality is poor compared to the iPhone, its made of cheap plastic
    The build quality is fine and much better than most phones. It is a different style from the iPhone.

    Its just not as polished or user friendly as the iPhone
    But a lot more flexible. Android is still in development my friend and I would argue some aspects of it are far more polished than the iPhone - home screens for example. The UI on the iPhone is essentially just a list of icons - like wow!

    There seems to be a lot of thinking involved where as the iPhone there was none
    Because you had no real options on the iPhone.

    Speaker volume distorts when turned up
    Agreed, it could be better...

    Headphone volume is really low, which is an issue as I listen to my iphone all day at work and don't think i'd be able to hear this
    I have not experienced this... my volume is fine and too loud on the highest settings.

    Radio reception is poor even on strong signals
    Not experienced this either...

    Horrible Orange rubbish on it, can it be removed?
    I have an unbranded phone, so not issue for me. It can be removed but you will probably find it too hard if you feel that the phone is not user friendly. Do a search.

    Battery life seems poor, when I put the battery in it was half full, it was flat 10 mins later
    If you drained 50% in 10 minutes, you have a serious problem with your phone. My phone lasts 32 hours with fairly good use. Can get 48 hours if very careful. No worse than my old iPhone. Battery gets better after a few charges. Also, you need to play around with some settings so phone is not doing more than it needs to.


    Moral of the story - THIS IS NOT AN IPHONE. If you want a phone that is like an iPhone - buy a freakin iPhone. T
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  4. slugger09

    slugger09 Well-Known Member

    Reading on here it seems alot of people loss Wifi after debranding and that seems like a right pain in the behind to get it going again
  5. anoniemouse

    anoniemouse Well-Known Member

    You can either get the phone unlocked to stop that problem or don't upgrade from version 1.15xxx to 1.21xxx
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  6. nickkr

    nickkr Well-Known Member

    See comments below

  7. slugger09

    slugger09 Well-Known Member

    Right well I think the best bet is to just play with it, does seem like a bit of a learning curve but that is a good thing, The Orange rubbish is the main thing annoying me at the min, why do they feel the need to put this on there phones:mad:
  8. runamonk

    runamonk Well-Known Member

    I left my iphone behind and I haven't missed it. Frankly I just grew sick of Apple and their crazy control over what I want to do with MY phone.

    I don't think Android is for everyone. I don't think my wife would like it as much as her iPhone.

    If you don't dig it within the cooling off period, I would return it.
  9. billy1561

    billy1561 Well-Known Member

    What is this 'Orange rubbish' you speak of? Mine is on Orange and is fine, maybe i am missing the point?
    Cheers.
  10. SB13X

    SB13X Well-Known Member

    Hope this helps also:

  11. SB13X

    SB13X Well-Known Member

  12. WozzaTT

    WozzaTT Well-Known Member

    Play around with it for a few days and I doubt you'll want to go back to an iphone.

    I've had one, and the GF has one, and I agree they're a bit 'slicker' in some respects but you're so restricted in what you can do with one in terms of customization that I think you'd soon be bored if you went back. They're too 'clinical' somehow.

    Battery life on the Desire is certainly an issue which has to be managed but there are loads of tips on this site on how to achieve this. Me and the GF went out on Saturday night with our phones both fully charged at 5.30 - when we went to bed at 2.30 I had 48% left, she had 82%!!! Buy a spare charger and keep it charging whenever you can. Plenty of people reckon it improves after a few charges but I'm not so sure.
  13. billy1561

    billy1561 Well-Known Member

  14. willis

    willis Well-Known Member

    I don't see why anyone should have to convince you. If you're not happy then return it while you can. You're paying a lot for your contract for the next year +.
    It's different if you need gettin used to the actual interface and os but build perception ain't gonna change.
  15. Pojken

    Pojken Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's the whole point. I love thinking! If you just wanted something simple, you'd have stayed with an iPhone. Not that its interface is all that bad - I like the iPod Touch alot. However, as a phone/pda, it doesn't fit my needs.

    Take a look at the Homescreens thread. Seriously, you can do so much with your screen rather than just filling it with icons. Amazing stuff.

    Some absolute positives (especially if you root):

    1) Setting your ringtones AND notification tones (I couldn't hear my calender events going off).
    2) Widgets - love my lockscreen widgets and my calendar laid out for me on the homescreen.
    3) Wireless hotspot (root)
    4) Complete customization - It's all non-stock - keyboard, SMS handler, dailer, calendar, camera, alarm clock, etc. So much to do.
    5) Google Latitude (so fracking cool).
    I went from not knowing anything about Android to being able to convince my iPhone friends how cool it was because of all my customizations. Those that wanted simple (non-tech) didn't agree, which I understand. Those that wanted choice and were tech savvy, they switched.

    Tim
  16. bigthunderkid

    bigthunderkid Member

    exactly... this is a "thinking persons" phone :p
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  17. Niir

    Niir Well-Known Member

    General build quality is poor compared to the iPhone, its made of cheap plastic Dont confuse build quality with build materials, the softtouch matt plastic is far superior in terms of eurgonomics and everyday useability than the iPhones glass/metal design. Yes the iPhone looks aesthetically nicer but worse to actually use by far.

    Its just not as polished or user friendly as the iPhone Android does not present everyone with Googles user experience, it presents you with the tools to make YOUR user experience the best it can be.

    There seems to be a lot of thinking involved where as the iPhone there was none The iPhone is idiot proof, linar walls of icons with no flexability. Yes you have to spend time carefully considering how YOU use YOUR Android smartphone, but is that a bad thing? Google give you the tools to make a fantatic user experience tailored to YOU not to Apples idea of how a smart phone is to be used. I dont want to offend you but this question makes you sound like you want to be ignorant.

    Speaker volume distorts when turned up Speaker quality is rubbish cant argue on this front.

    Headphone volume is really low, which is an issue as I listen to my iphone all day at work and don't think i'd be able to hear this Not a problem for me, possibly an issuse with the headphones not the phone.

    Radio reception is poor even on strong signals Network specific not a problem with the phone, I have great reception on t-Mob.

    Horrible Orange rubbish on it, can it be removed? Again a network issue not something specifically wrong with the phone, root it or get it on a different network.

    Battery life seems poor, when I put the battery in it was half full, it was flat 10 mins later You are supposed to give the phone a charge to full before you use it for the first time. Also it needs 3-5 full charge/discharge cycles to get a full charge held consistantly. Make sure every app/widget isnt updating ever 30 mins-1hour as this is pretty pointless turning stuff onto manual (i.e. it updates when u look at it) saves a ton of battery. Live wallpapers also drain battery and slow the cpu. The battery does struggle but i still get a days heavy usage consitantly.


  18. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

    Both, but more the phone. The phone is designed to accept TRRS connectors. Headphones without controls etc are TRS.

    TRS will work, but some are low volume.

    The 3.5mm socket on the phone is recessed in such a way that the plastic housing of the headphones sometimes prevents the TRS jacks from fully inserting into the socket, causing a poor connection which results in the low volume.
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  19. BoroC4

    BoroC4 Member

    Hey slugger I live in Belfast and have no problems with my Desire im on Vodafone and easily get a day and half out of my battery check your widgets like the weather one is updating every 15mins have you installed task killer to stop some apps working in the background and draining battery there's loads of tweaks to make once you get use it you will be laughing.
  20. slugger09

    slugger09 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I have it all up and running now and love it, just took a bit to get it sorted.

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