Haha should've seen that one coming. You have to agree that clearly they would not launch sense 3.0 with ICS. And since we have already seen videos of sense 4.0 with ICS. Im pretty sure we can all deduce from this that sense 4.0 will be the only route forward with ICS.
Hilarious. Come in here with guns blazing as an expert, so let's talk expert to expert, shall we?
And let's clear a few other things up as we go.
So questioning what version sense will be rolled out with ICS is a somewhat moot point.
You don't decide who gets to ask what and you don't get to discourage discussion of anything. People are free to ask and discuss whatever they want, and if you don't like it, you get to ignore those posts.
The rest of this post, like so many of mine, is perfectly cromulent, so I'm sure you'll be reading closely though.
The main question is when, and to what benefit, (If any) will sense offer.
OK. Someone else asked the same thing in a different way:
I read that the HTC EVO 3D will be getting ics. Does anyone know when and what's the difference between ics and gingerbread.
ICS brings four things to the table over Gingerbread:
- Application/data integration such that apps are people-centric. The benefit for Sense lovers is not high here, this is the foundation of Sense, and I'm glad that non-Sense owners will finally realize this benefit. Of course, Sense is much more than a launcher, it's that plus an integrated app suite designed to make the system people-centric: go to a Contact and see at a glance if you have unread mail from that person, or an SMS, etc etc.
- Speaking of launchers, the stock ICS launcher (definitely) and some apps (from what I've read) are hardware accelerated. Again, the benefit to Sense lovers here is low, Sense is already hardware accelerated.
- An under-the-hood update to the way that the operating system manages tasks on processors with multiple CPUs, such as our Evo 3Ds. This one, we all care about. Our phones were already using both cpu cores from day one, but with ICS, many tasks will appear to run faster, because Android is preemptive multitasking operating system, just like your PC (regardless if Mac, Windows or Linux) - and because of that, as you already know, multiple tasks (apps and app services) are running at once. ICS simply makes better decisions about how to manage cpu use for those tasks running at the same time.
- Fundamental app updates. The simplest example is that the stock browser now allows 16 pages to be loaded at once. The extreme example is Google is finally focusing on the user experience and laying new guidelines for how users interact with apps and are already targeting to get rid of the menu button in a future release. The community of user interface programming professionals is already divided over whether this is a good move or not, and both sides cite case studies for how people interact with apps. While they figure that out, you'll be deciding what's right for you and using apps with the features and layout you like - pretty much like you do now.
I maintain that it will serve no benefit except look nicer than stock ICS (which is even debatable). But the problem with looking nicer beeing the only plus is that i can go download another launcher which has more customization features and make it look how I want. Which is where sense falls short, it looks great but lacks basic customization functionality. I mean on stock 3.0 im stuck with 7 home screens, the dock is very useless seeing as how without rooting i cant change what each of the buttons do nor can i add more buttons, etc.
The Sense motto from HTC is
Make it yours.
My motto is that
Android is all about choice.
Kudos for making the right choices for you. And hopefully, I've cleared up for you some of the differences between old/new Android and Sense.
So sense is great for those that unbox their phones and just use them without questioning or changing the layout to how it suits them. But for the rest of us which actually care...
BEEP!
Not completely accurate, only partially correct.
Sense is also for those people who actually care about things like the user interface, and find the Sense approach and Sense launcher exactly what they want already.
... about wanting the phone to suit our needs and display a little flavour of our own, Sense is utterly disappointing, and frankly those of us that are the ones here customizing and playing around with the phone are the ones that upgrade our phones the most, buy new phones the most, buy the most expensive phones, and will stick with a certain manufacturer because we like their product or because we know our way around the device. So IMO sense is just alienating some of what could become HTC's best customers.
Wow, I've been tracking Android market and consumer trends for quite some time, I'm not familiar with that claim. I'll be looking forward to your references backing up the idea that the majority of smart phone sales are driven by those seeking customization as opposed to those who would rather not, and naturally, I'm looking forward to those survey trends. I mention this because the most customizable Android phone, the Nexus series by Google for developers, has traditionally been the lowest seller.
But instead of HTC coming onto a community blog or forum and looking at what our complaints and suggestions are, they bury their heads farther where the sun don't shine and pretend like everything is hunky dory...
I know for a certain fact that HTC software R&D, located here in the USA, does come and read our forums, and they have made changes over the last few years based on feedback they've gathered from user discussions here. They don't come here and discuss things very often, but every once in a great while, they'll stick their head in and say hi.
I very much doubt that they spend time caring about opinions from people who rudely flame them without all the facts in hand, but I could be wrong. But just to play it safe, I make my complaints here fact based, and leave the tough-guy invective at the door.
Guess what this is my last HTC device, unless they release a proper source code for the kernels with 3d camera and such, and give us ICS without Sense.
Well, you do what you think is best for you.
Many simply prefer the asynchronous cpu clocking unique to the Qualcomm dual cores over the standard A9 fare that the rest of the makers are feeding the market, and simply root and replace the entire software suite with an AOSP (read close enough as: straight Android) rom with non-Google enhancements and call it good. Those folks naturally don't have to wait as long for Android updates.
But as I said, Android is all about choice, and you do what you think is best for you.
So does anyone actually know the difference between Sense 3.6 and Sense 4.0? I mean, other than a number change? Could this be like Honeycomb, where Android 3.0 was for tablets only, but people got all sorts of upset that their latest/greatest phone came with Android 2.3 when Android 3.0+ existed?
Morning, Jer!
Yep, that's my big question as well.
In my earlier posts in this thread, I've suggested that because of the functional overlap of people-centric apps that Sense has always had, that is now new to Android and being a standard part of ICS, only fools would slap the two together and try to call it good, in my opinion. As I don't think HTC are fools, I believe the Sense change will hinge on how they do that feature integration.
Fancy words!
But what that means to us as users, I don't know. I have seen a blurry cam sneak peak of Sense 4, but I don't trust it. With past Sense updates, those sneak peak blurry cam vids have gone from 50% to 90% accurate as to what we've ended up with, so I'd say your guess is as good as mine.
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Other than that,
Goooooooooooooood morning, 3voLand! 
