I know that there are so many thoughts out there, but whether it is Nov. 23rd or not, I still think the Inc. HD will be out this year. The only reason I heard it will be delayed is to be 4g, well incase anyone else didn't notice this, the pictures posted 2-3 weeks ago had the phone with 4g, I'd say it's ready. No reason it isn't ready to be released. I think Vzw is just doing another one of their silent releases so everyone who recently bought an x or incredible or facinate or the pro today, will pay the $30 restock and get the newer one. Just my theory.