Interest in Galaxy S on AT&T? This may interest you...


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  1. ewingr

    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    This may interest you at AT&T.

    But my next problem that may make me want to wait: AT&T locking down apps to market only. So, I would like to know that it can be rooted; and I would like for a load to put it back to stock exists before I root.

    Wonder how long all this will take...
     

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    ghostfox1 Well-Known Member

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    Well, it's going to be all over the world, so it'll be worked on pretty quick I hope.
     
  3. Ambictus

    Ambictus Well-Known Member

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    Keep in mind that there's a work around on the Backflip to side-load apps, so it may work on the Captivate too.
     
  4. ewingr

    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Will be interesting to see. I can't decide if I should be waiting or just go for it. I'd hate to have a great phone that I cannot install that one all important app. Of course, I don't know much about the "Android Market" vs. all the other options. Maybe for any app worth installing, it will reach the Android Market.

    Does Android Market mean "Purchase form AT&T", and no "Free Apps"?
     
  5. Ambictus

    Ambictus Well-Known Member

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    No, the Android Market has tons of free apps. My wife has a Backflip and has DL'd tons of apps from the market at no cost.

    As for the all important app... I really wouldn't worry about it too much. Really what AT&T has done is to keep the people that have a tendency to screw things up by installing everything from being able to install things that will break. People really should start submitting their apps the the Android Market anyway. Keeping things consistent is optimal for the growth of Android.
     
  6. ewingr

    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I have to say that one of the positive things for the iPhone is apps that work. I suspect that part of the reason is the controversial method used to determine what apps can be installed on the iPhone. This is similar in thought process I guess.

    In an enterprise IT support organization, one of the most important things to achieve stability and ease of support is a consistent load to PCs. I am all too aware of the pain that causes users, and frustration, but am also aware of the payback to IT and the business user in stability and availability of good support. This of course is different, but reminiscent of that.

    Of course, I don't need that protection.:p
     
  7. lordmaxx

    lordmaxx Well-Known Member

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    Well, one of the primary reasons for Iphone's app policies is to make it so you could not submit applications that would supplant their own ad driven applications such as Itunes. I worry with the advent of iAds (can you believe they claim that being able to riddle your program with commercials is a FEATURE!??!?) will make it even harder for some developers

    Also AT&T has been quite cozy with forcing people to use their apps and having to pay for it ala AT&T navigator. Fortunately it seems they have not locked us out of google maps. yet.
     
  8. ewingr

    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I hear ya...

    I wonder when the Galaxy will reach Verizon. I don't know if this is worth the effort for a move or not. Maybe it will soon root, and have a way to take it back to original (for warranty), and its no big deal.

    Heck, its just a phone...:cool:...but I just can't seem to help myself
     
  9. mkeath

    mkeath Well-Known Member

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    The market regulates itself. The de facto standard with literally every other carrier in the world who carries Android devices is that Google Nav and Google Maps come with the device and are free. Eventually AT&T will see this and not even think about trying to impose AT&T Navigator or anything like that. Also if they want to use Yahoo so much, why don't they write a widget for it and include it in the default home screen? If the user doesn't want it, they can replace it. voila
     
  10. Ambictus

    Ambictus Well-Known Member

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    I actually don't have a problem with iAds as long as it's only for free apps. If paid apps start having ads then there's a serious problem.

    Developers are starting to submit their apps to the Android Market at a pretty rapid pace, so I don't really see an issue with the no side loading apps thing. Really, side loading apps should be for developmental purposes only IMO.

    Right, and it also potentially serves to reduce support costs for AT&T as it helps avoid potentially unstable apps. Granted it won't completely avoid them as many are in the Market already, but it at least allows people to search for higher rated apps in an easier format. The higher rated that app presumably the more stable it is likely to be.
     
  11. lordmaxx

    lordmaxx Well-Known Member

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    Is it true that if you have the Android SDK you can load apps onto a phone you have connected to your comp? I use to be a WinMo developer and once I finally get an android phone to replace my aging fuze I wanted to look into messing around with that phone...this is one of the reasons why I think its silly they dont let you load apps
     
  12. mkeath

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    No, you can't. Amazing that Google won't let you do this, but Microsoft is going to let you do it with WP7. All you can do is run it on your device through USB debugging.
     
  13. Ambictus

    Ambictus Well-Known Member

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    That was the work around for the Backflip. I'd imagine it's the same on future AT&T Androids. I don't see why they'd strip that out as it would make app development virtually impossible. I know you could develop and test in an emulator but testing in an emulator vs an actual device isn't realistic.
     
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    I always used an emulator for win6.1...and probably would for android development rather than an actual device. I've been looking to make a really nice Audiobook app, I've seen one out there Ambling, but if it doesnt have everything I want then I think it would be a cool one to write.
     
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    I plan to make an app that keeps track of how much you've had to drink along with a companion widget to get myself familiarized with the platform. After that who knows?
     
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    An app to track drinking, I like that :). Seems easy enough to code in, just gotta learn the API's
     
  17. mkeath

    mkeath Well-Known Member

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    Yeah so far looking at the tutorials it seems like if you know Java, you know Android. I am just gonna have to get to know the libraries. This will really be the only GUI programming I have done outside of a VB class. This whole creating seamless, natural UIs is going to be very new to me.
     
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    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Darned AT&T. I just read that the Captivate does not have FM. I am pretty sure that the I90000 does. I'm sure many don't care. But I have a Blue Tooth device that I play music through in my car, and use it to talk through with calls on my car speakers. But I like to listen to NPR, and when I use this wiht a phone w/o FM, then I can't do that.

    I wonder when this thing will land on Verizon, and how it will be different.
     
  19. lordmaxx

    lordmaxx Well-Known Member

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    Verizon will probably get the true Galaxy S...this seems to be turning out to be a hybrid with some features removed for AT&T's sake.
     
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    Also, no camera flash. That said, once this sucker gets rooted...ohhhh man.
     
  21. HustlinDaily

    HustlinDaily Well-Known Member

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    Best part is that Paul from MoDaCo just got his Galaxy S yesterday.

    If anybody can get it rooted, it is him. The # of phones he has gotten rooted is crazy (took him like a day to crack the Dell Streak).

    Hopefully Samsung's ability to patch security is not as good as SonyEricssons. The Xperia X10 has been out since Feb and still no root!
     
  22. ewingr

    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Speaking of Verizon, I'm not even seeing any rumors about when the SGS will ship to Verizon, let alone announcements. I suspect it'll be a while, given it seems the Moto's are coming soon.
     
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    You mean T-mobile right? I doubt Verizon will see this phone.

    But as far as we all know, the Captivate doesnt have LED flash (same as original Galaxy), silly rumors on how it might now have a front facing camera (digitized pictures don't prove a damn thing), and no FM radio. So really so far just no FM radio. Meh that's not so big a deal, yet atleast.


    Me being too optimistic?
     
  24. ewingr

    ewingr Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    No, I meant Verizon. Haven't seen any rumors lately about it coming, but have read many many times the Galaxy is supposed to be on all 4 larger U.S. Carriers. I think that would include Verizon:p

    Just spoke with someone here at work, and they told me they have had FM on 2-3 phones, and none ever receive very good. So, maybe it not being there is a blessing in disguise.

    I have zero expectations of a flash; and am very sceptical about the items mentiond as possibly being a front camera, based on pics. Not expecting that either.

    While I am reaching the point that none of those are deal breakers, in the end, I'd like to get the phone with all of the features availble to the initial designe of Samsung Galaxy. I tend to not trade phones every 2 years. I'm still on my old AT&T Tilt. But that being said, I am going nuts with the wait at this point. :cool:
     
  25. mkeath

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    Why would you care about this phone when the Droid X does everything it does and more.
     

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