Hi all. First I'd like to say, I like this forum. friendly and helpful people here. Cheers. I too, had enough of apple's s%$t and decided to go full-on android ! Now I had my eyes on the Desire HD for quite some time now (moving from the first gen iphone.....yeah you can laugh..) and what attracted me was: 1 - The preloaded maps- to practically act as a navigation system, walking or driving (I live in Canada), that do not require internet connection (I don't plan on having a data plan, got wifi all around me.) 2 - Speed and strength that will allow it to be updated far beyond 2.2. 3 - Good quality MP3 player. 4 - htcsense.com 5 - Touch-focus on video recording. After about a month of very nerdy research I've discovered that: "Locations" is not really working for a lot of people, the battery life is terrible and htcsense.com not really working for most people. And the price, oh the price. Htc Desire cost (what ever I buy, I want it unlocked) about 2/3 of the HD. if not half. So I am starting to look for alternatives- I keep reading the good reviews about the Desire. I'll appreciate your input and thoughts. Thank you !