Is the Milestone worth purchasing?General


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  1. Herpderpp

    Herpderpp New Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hello there! I've been an Android user for about a year now, unfortunately, my experience has been with the dreadful Samsung Galaxy i7500. I won't even go into how many problems this phone has caused me, and, well everyone!

    My question is, is the Milestone worth purchasing?

    My maximum budget is about
     

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  2. TelusMilestone

    TelusMilestone Well-Known Member

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    Totally worthy. The only Android phone I would purchase at the moment!
     
  3. maxnicks

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    I have had a Droid for almost a year now. I'm running CM 6.1RC3 and have it overclocked with the P3Droid 125/1100 MHz low voltage kernal. My wife and kids all have D2s. There is not a phone yet out there that I would replace my original Droid with. I know, you asked about Milestone. You say potato, I say ice cream.
     
  4. John Bean

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    I had the same misfortune as you choosing a i7500 which (fortunately!) developed a screen fault after a month; it was declared non-repairable by play.com and no replacement was available, so I got a refund. Great service from play.com when things go tits up, I can't fault them.

    I bought a Milestone (also from play.com) as a replacement and I can't express how much better it is in all respects. Fantastic phone.
     
  5. LifeInAnalog

    LifeInAnalog Well-Known Member

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    ...had mine for a few months now and it still feels amazing. Once you root and overclock, there's not much you can do on the other newer phones, that you can't do on the Milestone.

    I better be happy with mine, its gotta last me another two years! ;)
     
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  7. GlitchZero

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    The Milestone is infinity better than the Defy.

    Any HTC phone excluding the Eris is infinitely better than the Milestone.

    That's it.
     
  8. Szadzik

    Szadzik Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me? You want to tell me that HTC Desire has a better physical keyboard than the Milestone even though it has none?

    You are not serious here. HTC has just released the Desirez Z, their newest QWERTY phone and when Milestone 2 comes out these two can be compared. But comparing the Milestone with Desire is pointless as Desire is much newer. Look at Hero, it is much worse than the Mielstone.

    Do not compare phones without QWERTY with phones with QWERTY because there is no point in doing that and your statement was completely not true. / End of off-topic.

    To the OP: For a phone at its price point and with a QWERTY keyboard the Milestone is the best.
     
  9. GlitchZero

    GlitchZero Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should read OPs statement; he's not even looking for a hardware QWERTY, just better than 1.5/1.6, and a good camera. Both things which basically every single HTC phone offers, the same cannot be said about Motorola.

    I never specified any HTC phone had better physical keyboard; I simply said they are better phones, which, in all respects, they are. Right now, I would rather have a Hero than my Milestone, because at least I know HTC in comparison is offering the closest to new they can to 2.2 even with hardware restrictions, while Motorola sits around sucking each other off waiting for...what, exactly, to release Froyo?

    Also, the Desire Z will still outstrip the Milestone 2 even when it's released, since it's not stuck preloaded with MotoBlech and a bootloader locked up tighter than the Mona Lisa.

    Anyways, to the OP: I seriously recommend not buying what is now an outdated device. If you get a chance, play with a Desire, Desire Z, or Galaxy S phone, and you will see the Milestone simply cannot keep up with these other phones that are similarly priced and infinitely newer, faster, and better.
     
  10. Szadzik

    Szadzik Well-Known Member

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    I really do not understand why you have the Milestone if it is such a crappy phone.

    BTW., how can you tell that Desire Z will be better than Milestone 2 if MS2 has not even been released yet? I do not like HTC Sense and it does disqualify every single HTC phone for me. It cannot even be replaced by a 3rd party launcher as it keeps running in the background. Do you call that a great phone?

    I am not saying MotoBlur is better or worse than Sene, I will not use either, but Desire Z's keyboard has already been reviewed and it is no good, the Z construction is of veeeery questionable quality and durability.
     
  11. GlitchZero

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    Because I made the mistake this summer of not paying attention to what was coming and purchased it outright. I currently have it as an mp3 player / call forwarder so I don't drain my DZ's battery.

    Don't get me wrong - it was a great phone, UNTIL I got something that is up to speed with what's available in the US, what's being made TODAY, something even remotely comparable to a Droid X or a Galaxy S device.

    If you root the phone, Sense can be removed, Cyanogen has already been released for it using only ADW.

    And the keyboard is fine, I guess. I prefer the Milestone keyboard, but the DZ beats it in every other respect including stock virtual keyboard, so for me it makes up for that one small issue.

    There isn't a construction issue, there's a bunch of idiots complaining about a hinge that was designed to be opened with one finger, and people are calling it weak. There are several videos and threads confirming that the build of the Z hinge is nothing short of strong, capable, and can withstand abuse.

    I can't tell you the Desire Z will be better than the Milestone 2, however I can tell you even if the M2 is released in 6 months, the Desire Z will be on Gingerbread while Motorola struggles to justify withholding it for a year or so after it's been released to every other phone capable of running it, which is what will make it better and more valuable to people making the comparison. I'm not saying HTC devices are for everyone; I'm simply telling the OP to move towards modern devices instead of something that is outdated.

    I mean in app memory alone, the Desire doubles it, the Desire Z has 5 times the space, and Galaxy S devices have 10 times the space. Totally removes apps2sd from being even remotely necessary for these devices, and yet the Milestone is in desperate need of it, so desperate in fact that there are 3 different modifications just to alleviate some of the terrible storage limit.

    Also; what is your fixation with hardware keyboards? Nowhere in this thread was this even brought up until you sprung it into conversation.
     
  12. rchacin

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    Absolutely. I've had mine for four month and still excited about it.

    I do believe is probably the best value/price option out there. Never had problems running any software from the market (you know kind of "doesn't run on my miniX10" and things like that.)

    About the camera, it's not bad on good lighting. However on low light is not that good.

    It navigates very fast with wifi or 3g. And the GPS is just great!
     
  13. Szadzik

    Szadzik Well-Known Member

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    That is what happens when you forget to use your brain while buying something, happens a lot. I thought this purchase over in Feb 2010 and am still happy, but will be replacing it soon.

    You are comparing devices that are 3 months old to those over a year old, you are either inconsiderate of the changes in phone hardware in the past year or just blind.

    Same with MotoBlur I bet

    A phone released a few days/ weeks ago compared to an old phone again, inconsiderate.

    And we will only see that with time. At this point you are just 'supposing' it will be good. It has yet to withstand anything as it is a new phone and no one knows what will happen with it in a year. In MS's case we KNOW that it will last.

    Comparing old and new phones again. M2 will have 8GB memory for apps so I have no clue what you are talking about here.

    I assume that anyone who even considers buying a Milestone at this time is in need of a physical keboard, otherwise, there are lots of newer and thus better phones to choose.
     
  14. TelusMilestone

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    Holy multi-quote :D hehe
     
  15. GlitchZero

    GlitchZero Well-Known Member

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    Ok...

    You're completely missing my point. The difference between the release date of the Milestone to these other devices is a mere 6 months. When these phones literally double, triple, and quadruple the production speed, quality, memory, etc in a mere six months.

    Look at the HTC Incredible. Released ONE MONTH LATER, triple the space, twice the processor, better camera, etc, etc. Even comparing the phones OF THAT TIME to the Milestone blow it out of the water. Motorola missed the boat orunder-developed the Milestone. Simple as that. It's marketed and priced as a high-end device, and in truth it is mid level to entry level at best, even at it's peak. It's been four months since the Galaxy S devices have been released, and yet the Desire Z (literally 2 weeks old) is not even close to double / triple / quadruple the speeds, quality, and memory of the Galaxy S. Explain how in 4 months very little changed, but in the 6 between the Milestone and Galaxy S devices there was apparently a quantum leap in mobile technology?

    No. The Milestone was underpowered and put out entirely too late. It's outdated and should not be recommended as a new purchase to anyone.


    I'm sure it can, but using Sense as a crutch to knock HTCs devices is pointless when it can be removed and with the memory available in these devices, makes literally no difference whether removed or not.



    See HTC Incredible comparison above for my response to this.


    And no, I'm not "supposing" anything. It's been through shot tests, drop tests, road tests, some guy holds it by the top (screen) and shakes the shit out of it for a good 2 minutes, nothing happens.

    And are you KIDDING me? The Milestone's stupid bubble keyboard has had to be replaced over and over again, look around any other forum. I can show you pictures of a keyboard that just blimps up to the point where the phone can't actually be closed. Boy, solid build quality. Broken skis, shitty speakers...Your Milestone may have lasted, but there are hundreds, thousands, potentially millions that didn't / haven't.

    I'm in no way saying the Desire Z will not be the same situation, as any phone has the potential to fail within the first year, but I wouldn't consider the Milestone any more solid than the Desire Z, Galaxy S phones, or any other Android device...minus the EVO.

    Awesome, Motorola finally realized they're underproducing. A year too late, it seems.


    Maybe you should consider the option that they just want a good Android device - something which the Milestone no longer is - and need further education. If you had said "Wait for the Milestone 2." I wouldn't even have interjected, as that would be good advice. To say the Milestone is still a modern device that can keep up with other devices today is a joke, and a bad one at that.
     
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  16. Szadzik

    Szadzik Well-Known Member

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    MERE? You have no idea what you are talking about. Go online, do some research what has been going on for the past 18 months and how quickly smartphones changed in this time and you will see how much 6 months can change. Without realizing that you will keep thinking that a year old phone should be as good as a 1 month old phone which of course is not going to be true.

    You just seem to have NO knowledge of the smartphone market.


    YOu are missing facts here again. MS was released in Nov 09 and DInc i April 10, making a 6 months difference. A huuuuuuuuuge difference in time and technology.

    Compare the DInc and Droid X and you will see. Droid X released in MAy and DInc in April. A better CPU (better GPU and procesing power in all tests), WiFi N, DLNA.

    DInc looks funnily incapable next to the DX.

    Maybe a bit underpowered indeed, but you can OC it and it runs as smooth as any other phone.

    Look above.

    No tests to test time though, are there?

    Maybe you should start looking at how quickly phone hardware has been progressing in the past year, because it looks like you have no idea about the subject.



    P.S. Yes, the Milestone is still a good phone. With 2.2 and possibility to install on SD, OCing it it is a great phone and especially for the money.
     
  17. GlitchZero

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    Dude, this is what I do for a living, I'm very aware of what's been going on in the last 18 months. However, being from Canada, the device was released here FEBRUARY 2010, which in North America, is a ONE MONTH difference.

    Not everyone is in Europe, buddy. Maybe you should do a little research too, seeing as you have absolutely zero knowledge outside your own region, clearly.

    I don't think a 1 year old phone should be as good as one released a month ago, but compared to one released a few months after said 1 year old phone, I think should be at least trailing behind, not passed out on the sidewalk coughing up blood.

    Let's compare it to the Nexus One then, since you seem so bent on holding onto the one point where I compared the Desire Z's KEYBOARD to the Milestones KEYBOARD.

    Note: I said keyboard, not other specs. Please pay attention and stop saying I'm comparing the Milestone to a device released "a month ago" (2 weeks ago, btw.) because the Milestone doesn't even compare, there'd be no point.

    The Nexus One was released just over a month (January 5, 2010) after the Milestone. Again, storage is doubled, processor is doubled, and so on and so forth.

    Your argument holds no water, because pretty much since January of 2010 (in mid / high end devices), storage capacity has improved hand over fist, but processors, RAM, have all remained pretty consistent (950 MHz average and 512MB). And yet the Milestone had a measly 200MB of storage, 256MB of RAM, and 550MHz processor, exactly HALF of what a device released ONE MONTH LATER and made by HTC had. AND this device (the Milestone) was advertised at the same time as the Nexus One as a HIGH END DEVICE. There is no justification for this other than Motorola half assed this device and turned a gigantic profit on something nowhere near as good as advertised.

    And yet it benchmarks just as well as the DX and is still completely capable of having more than 100 apps, not force closing every time you open flash (ie, Milestone) and can be ROMed to hell. The Milestone is probably a true testament to the opposite of what Android is supposed to be.



    And this somehow negates that every mid-level / high level Android device since is at minimum 1.5 times faster stock?

    My Milestone is OCed to 800 MHz and chugs if I open and close things too fast. Again, your situation could be different, but it happens, and it happens often. Not every Milestone was blessed perfect when people bought them.

    Please explain how smashing the hinge with a hammer and having it not break is somehow likely to be LESS abuse than would be sustained in 1 year with normal phone use?

    Clearly, how foolish of me to dare disagree with the all European-only knowing Szadzik. :rolleyes:
     
  18. Szadzik

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    End of discussion for me if you want to say that Milestone was released in Feb even though it was really released in Nov, and it does not matter that no carriers had it until Feb in Canada, which is the worst place phone-wise and you do not Realize that MS has 512MB of memory same as NExus One and Desire.

    Czeck how much memory is available to the user on Desire, Nexus One and Milestone and you will see there is NO difference between these values. %12MB is just the amount of al onboard memory and only around 140MB is available to the user on these phones as the rest is taken by the firmware.

    Again you proved how much you know about phones giving Nexus One as an example for memory.
     
  19. TelusMilestone

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    I still sell this phone and people love it. Not that it matters but I agree with Szadzik on this one :p
     
  20. GlitchZero

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    And actually, you're right because all we had were things like the X10, Milestone, and Desire advertised as high end devices, which is laughable and untrue. However, now carriers realize that Android isn't just a fad and are finally picking up real phones, like the Desire Z, Desire HD, Galaxy S devices, X12, and the list of competent devices goes on.

    Regardless of memory, what about the rest of the specs? You're clinging to one small issue, what about the processors or the RAM? Why were they so damn low? I love how you totally dodged those bullets, since you have no retort, the Milestone was under specced for its time.
     
  21. Szadzik

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    I alrady admited that Milestone was underspecced, but you forgot to read my posts above.

    High end is not always going to stay the same. As things progress, high end changes too and you have to understand it.

    I hope you do not die of hunger or lose your job because if you really do stuff with mobile phones for a living, I do not think you are doing the job well.

    Milestone was not a bad phone and still is not. If there was no M2 coming I would keep MS for a long time waiting for another good phone, as good as the Milestone after a year from its release. Desire Z as well as most other HTC phones look like toys from the Afghan market I go to from time to time nezt to the Milestone and its premium build quality.
     
  22. GlitchZero

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    Lol, well from the way you've acted in this thread, I'd only have to assume your job is either a) Motorola's designated ego booster / salad tosser or b) You work at a carnival making assumptions instead of predictions. I do my job quite well actually, and those paycheques that keep rolling in seem to agree with me, as does my employer.

    But by all means, you keep backing Motorola and it's "premium build quality" right to the bank. Shit, you might as well take stock in Moto, they've been doing so well for so long now. I mean, the Razr still has a premium build quality, right?!

    Please excuse me while I laugh myself to sleep at the fact that you think Motorola phones are somehow better or worse in build quality compared to HTC. At least they use brushed aluminum instead of rubber covered plates..Wait, where have I seen this design / material before? Oh right, the Rizr, the inbred portrait-sliding cousin of the Razr. Good to see Motorola's taking some real chances in their "premium build quality" in the last 6 years. :rolleyes: At first I thought you liked Android, but more and more it just seems like you have some deep emotion investment with Motorola.

    Oh, forgot to add your "End of discussion." to my post. ;) Have a good one!
     
  23. Mortus

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    OP: Seriously, it depends on what you want the phone to really do for you. Sell yourself on features, quality and what suits your needs best. The Milestone is a solid phone, it's not top of the heap by any stretch, but it is still worth a look.

    It's does not seem to be limited terribly by the 550MHz processor, at least I have yet to find anything it CAN NOT do, it just may not be as quick as the next phone. Over-clocking is definitely an option, but to be honest I hardly notice a difference, perhaps the stock MicroSD Card is the bottleneck. I also have recently found internal memory to be a bit limited in my exploration BUT if you are not using a ton of apps and do some occasional house cleaning it is adequate, some people may also recommend moving compatible apps to the SD card to save on space. Myself I am experimenting with "Freezing" stock apps I have found better alternatives for using Titanium Backup Pro (My Phone is Rooted.) and if I don't run into any problems I will remove/uninstall them.

    Build quality wise it looks and feels solid, and I have looked at slider phones before and when you picked them up they "rattled" and felt poorly assembled, this is not so with the Milestone. I like the rubberized back panel and upper back ridge to prevent it slipping. One primary selling point for me was the physical keyboard, it works quite well and the slide action feels nice and solid.

    The end result for me is that after all my looking at what was offered by my local carriers, The Milestone does seem like the phone that will last me the next 2 years till my indentured servitude (IE Contract) with Telus ends, I was willing to break my contract for an Android phone that would suit my needs but no one else had one I felt would work as well as the Milestone would.

    So final analysis is, if you are looking for a sold phone with 2.1 and the potential of getting 2.2 or higher, are not looking for top specs, or a phone that is pretty and shiny to "wow" people with an IPhone, but a phone that will do what you want, the Milestone is definitely worth considering.

    My greatest suggestion though is whatever you decide, find somewhere you can actual pick up the phone and have it in your hands. See how it feels and works for you. After all the person that has to be happy with the phone is you. ;)

    I guess you don't mind your phone slipping from your grasp then? I have had phones with aluminum and smooth plastic casings and they have slipped out of my hand more often then I would like. Have yet to have that issue with the Milestone. Have to say I find the Milestone to be increatdibly solidly built and hardly shows any wear at all despite meeting a table face first at full force with my full body weight behind it. Not only that but is has a solidly built look AND feel to it.

    Have to say Glitch you are seeming quite HTC fanboy yourself. May want to look into that.
     
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  24. GlitchZero

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    This is my first HTC device ever, so not really.
     
  25. Szadzik

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    Haha, you definitely sound like one, even if you do not want to admit to it.
     

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