Ok bear with me, this is the only the second phone i have rooted. I am having issues with the rom manager and root explorer. The rom manager works, it does not force close, but when i ask it to do something like backup or install a rom, it does nothing, litterally i can click something else and same thing, it does nothing. I tried uninstalling and even factory reset. Still dont work. Also the root explorer, it says "Root explorer has not yet manage to obtain root access. " i get that every time i restart it, same issue. I try to do SU in CMD or terminal and it both said i have lost permission. I have froyo 2.2, this is the second time i have rooted this phone (flashed back) and installed froyo.