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  1. chong67

    chong67 Well-Known Member

    I got the HTC One M7 since last year. I already been a good boy bypass the M8 or S5.

    So I am ready for the $800 Note 4 now. :)

  2. AnonGuy

    AnonGuy Well-Known Member

    It fits in with Expectations. The Note 3 is only a Year-Old Phone by the time the Note 4 launches, so the only people who expected something amazing were the people with unrealistic expectations. It's 2014. Every flagship refresh is fairly incremental at this point. The market simply isn't moving at the same speed it was 3 years ago.

    OIS is a huge upgrade, especially for video recording. It means you get uncropped footage out of the camera. This is great for 1080p (digital stabilization is why the phone has decrease field of view compared to optically stabilized camera phones). It's also going to be a boon for 4k recording and low light photography.

    UHD still isn't necessary at that screen size, IMO, but makes a bit more sense given it's still bigger than the G3 screen and Samsung is going to be using an SoC designed to push those pixels (capable != designed and the G3 has lag and heat issues from using that screen on the processor they used).

    It will likely have the Fingerprint Scanner. As well as the Heart Rate Monitor. The S Pen will likely be improved even more. The software will be a bit more refined.

    I don't see what's not to like.

    I hope Samsung uses a Sapphire Lens on it, like Apple and LG.

    I don't think I'll get it cause I like to sleep around. I'm more interested in other platforms at this point.

    The way tech is moving these days, is a boon to the consumer. It means:

    1. There is less need to chase constant upgrades, cause the upgrades are only modest at best, so a phone is more usable across 2 years than ever (the Note 3 will be usable until 2016 if not longer given its hardware - since the battery can just be swapped out when it starts to lose capacity) and

    2. Resale values are a bit better than they were a few years ago, because the phones are kept up to date longer and the hardware remains relevant a LOT longer than before due to overspeccing.

    IMO, this is a BIG deal, since if the older phones cannot be sold for a decent amount shortly after buying (i.e. prices drop heavily and quickly) then the incentive to chase upgrades is even less. The reason why Apple can sell as many iPhones as they do is precisely because selling the previous models pays for 60-70% of the new phone in many cases.

    Many Android users cannot capitalize on devices the way Apple users do, and it would be wise for OEMs like Samsung or HTC to really get their products to a point where most users can justify spending 800 on a new phone... Not because they have 800 in their pocket, but because they can sell their Note X-1 for 450+ and cover a majority of the upgrade costs that way. Upgrading incrementally can help that, since it does two things:

    a. It makes it more viable for someone to buy the previous model and not feel like their throwing money down the drain.

    b. It makes it more viable for someone to sell the previous model for more, which allows them to more equally upgrade to your latest model.

    In addition to that... Getting someone to buy your previous models can help fuel sales of the models that follow them, especially when they feel like they are buying and upgrading to a premium device. If it's not a "big deal" to them (i.e. "just gonna get some cheap second hand Note" line of thinking), then that matters.

    Mindshare is important, not just market share, because it breeds loyalty which also helps in other ways (exclusive services and app store sales). Fickle customers tend to avoid getting too investment. Apple's users aren't fickle, and they profit a lot off of that.

    I hope they just incrementally upgrade the hardware while putting the majority of their focus on the software and user experience, IMO. That's where they're lagging. The hardware is fine, even if they use specs barely passing the Note 3 (since that device is still only barely behind, and in some ways even ahead, flagships that followed it).
  3. Steven58

    Steven58 Reformed PH VIP Member

    Time for this thread to heat up. "THE FUN HAS ARRIIIIIVED!!!!"

  4. illwill 12

    illwill 12 Active Member

  5. Cakeisspy

    Cakeisspy Well-Known Member

    Exynos variant will be faster this time ? :D
  6. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    Not faster, just twice as much of the slow stuff :p

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  8. Steven58

    Steven58 Reformed PH VIP Member

    I n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ always liked you! :) :p
  9. AnonGuy

    AnonGuy Well-Known Member

    Samsung always seems to have issues updating those Exynos devices quickly.

    Also, I wonder what the heat production is like on those phones. Some of their past (emphasis, cause this one should be better) devices that used their SoC ha issues with overheating.
  10. Droid Ninja

    Droid Ninja Well-Known Member

    Looks like we might get this sooner than expected. I am reading Sammy trying to rush these out to beat the iphone phablet release. Note usually comes out Oct-ish. If this is to be believed, then we can expect early/mid sept for release of Note 4.

  11. Sandroidfan

    Sandroidfan Well-Known Member

    Note 2 had Exynos 4412 (even US versions) and it worked pretty well. Exynos 5433 will be from 20nm process, so I guess heat won't be issue. It seems to perform well against S805 too.

    Exclusive: More Galaxy Note 4 details leak as its benchmarks show up | SamMobile

    There is rumor it will be paired with intel LTE modem but I guess US version will likely be powered by S805.
  12. chong67

    chong67 Well-Known Member

    LG already beat Samsung with the G3. Samsung is slow.
  13. Sandroidfan

    Sandroidfan Well-Known Member

  14. Cakeisspy

    Cakeisspy Well-Known Member

    Most probably a Mali 760MP8 GPU@600+Mhz
  15. chong67

    chong67 Well-Known Member

    Anyone know if Note 4 will be those 3 bottom buttons on the screen or off the screen?
  16. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    AFAIK the Galaxy Nexus was the only Samsung phone with virtual buttons. I can't imagine Sammy not using capacitive controls, as much as I prefer the on-screen ones. The big rumor is that the Home button will have a fingerprint scanner... something that can' t happen with on-screen controls.
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  17. miss_vickies

    miss_vickies Well-Known Member

    soooooooooooo excited for this!!! Skipped Note 3, so I am due for an upgrade from my still so very awesome note 2!
  18. AnonGuy

    AnonGuy Well-Known Member

    At those performance levels, I don't even care about benchmarks.

    The update turn-around is still an issue with Exynos. At this point, seeing how dominant Qualcomm is, I prefer to stick with them, unless Google uses an Exynos SoC in the next Nexus phone (which I highly doubt).
  19. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    It's my understanding that Exynos SoCs are still not playing well with LTE. So for those of us in the USA, expect the Snapdragon 805. Exynos will very likely be put in the GSM version... and I predict a standard candy-bar form factor for the masses while the "new form factor" bent-screen OLED Note 4 will be isolated to South Korea.


    Could I be shocked and surprised by a bent-screen Verizon Note 4? Oh, I can't even dream of stuff that good!
  20. Sandroidfan

    Sandroidfan Well-Known Member

    Every Note 2 in US had quad Exynos coupled with qualcomm LTE modem. So I don't think this is issue any more. Not that this means US note 4 will have Exynos for sure. Time will tell.
  21. Steven58

    Steven58 Reformed PH VIP Member

    It's july 7th already. July then August and then September. It almost pays to wait for the september phones, already. If I don't fall in love with the g3, I think I may wait. The m8 not having a removable battery freaks me out a bit.
  22. chong67

    chong67 Well-Known Member

    Me too. I cant wait. I want time to FFW. But, doing that also increase your age quicker. You dont want to get old that quick, do you? :D
  23. chong67

    chong67 Well-Known Member

    I think its the first time I hear it will be 4K.

    A small screen with 4K doesnt make any sense. Perhaps no more jagged edges on the text. Other than that, I dont know of any benefits. Its just like human eyes cant see 16 million colors too.
  24. illwill 12

    illwill 12 Active Member

  25. mpavlansky

    mpavlansky Well-Known Member

    I've been studying the LG G3 which seems to be a great device, but understanding some of it's shortcomings, I think it's not the right phone for me.

    I'd love to find some tangible data on the physical dimensions of the Note 4, but haven't found that yet. This little write up is about as good as it gets while I continue to wait and wait for some more information.

    Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs LG G3 - Specifics and Price Comparison - The Fuse Joplin

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