JB ROM or ICS ROM?


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  1. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Hey guys,
    I didnt find an answer to this anywhere. I am currently running Supernexus JB Rom on my S2. This was the first rom I flashed after rooting and since then I have always flashed JB roms (but I came back to Supernexus JB in the end). My question is, is there any advantage to running an ICS rom instead of JB? I mean in terms of speed, performance and battery life? As i understand it (I am a noob), JB is still in beta.. So I am hoping that you guys will help me get the most out of my device. If ICS is the way to go at present then please mention a few good ICS roms for me.. Thank you (and hope this isnt a stupid question)... :D

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  2. Hawker

    Hawker Well-Known Member

    Main advantage is that you can have Sammy ROMs on ICS. Its all down to taste. Personally AOKP/CM ROMs are great with all their bells+whistles, but I can't live with them as daily runners. That's where Samsung ROMS come in. The core apps (camera, messaging, email, dialer, contacts etc) are far better in my opinion, and this is the main reason I won't go away from Sammy based ROMS (Neat in particular)
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  3. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    I appreciate the quick reply, Hawker. Could you explain in what way Sam Roms are better as far as emails are concerned? I also find that my mobile data goes off when I am roaming (which is every day coz i commute 3 hours to work). Could this be a ROm related issue? I have flashed KH3 and LPX modems and the issue persists on both.
  4. Hawker

    Hawker Well-Known Member

    The emailling function itself isn't better, but the core apps are in my opinion.

    By roaming do you mean going into different countries?

    I dont know if there are any official JB modems out yet but generally a 4.0.4 modem will perform better on 4.0.4 compared to 4.0.3
  5. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    No, not different countries. I am from India and i go to a different city which is about 200kms away from home. Sometimes the data comes on (at work) by itself but most times data remains disabled, despite reboots and different modems. I am frustrated by this as mobile data works perfectly at my hometown. Could this be a carrier related problem? I have a data pack active and ideally it should work. I wasnt aware that modems were rom specific... Could this mean that i migh get better connectivity if i go with an ICS rom? And what is the difference between NEatrom full and Lite? Is it a good rom?
  6. Hawker

    Hawker Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't be using it if it wasn't a good ROM.
    Full is the full ROM, Lite has about 100Mb of apps removed.

    I would recommend flashing Neat and firstly stick to the default modem (NELP4)
    If this still gives you no joy, then try another 4.0.4 modem.
    See this thread
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  7. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Thanks once again. But one last question. I am running Supernexus (as i said earlier). Would it be possible to dualboot Neatrom Lite? I am on Dori 7.8. Is there a guide to dual booting? Then i can decide which is better for me and ditch one or the other?? Thanks for helping.
  8. Calvo1

    Calvo1 Well-Known Member

    Dorimanx 7.10 supports dual booting for ICS and JB Roms with Mali Drivers I believe, but definitely worth checking out yourself on XDA first.
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  9. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Ok guys, I installed Neat Rom Lite as dualboot, but i couldnt get any options to boot into second rom at startup. So I made a backup of my current rom and installed Neatrom as the sole Rom. Is pretty much the same as the stock rom my phone came with. Cant see any difference. But hopefully there will be some difference. By the way, there are various Mods in the Neatrom thread. How to install them and whats their use?
  10. blobq

    blobq Well-Known Member


    Im using vodafone, what modem should i use, i see the NELP4 is for three?

    Android 4.0.4
    BOLP7 (T-Mobile-Germany)
    BVLPE (Orange-UK)
    DDLPB
    NELP4 (Three-UK)
    UHLPH
    XXLQ5
    XXLQ6
    ZSLPN
    ZSLPQ

    Android 4.0.3
    BOLP5
    BOLP7 (T-Mobile-Netherlands)
    BULP6 (Vodafone)
    BULP7 (Vodafone)
    DVLP3 (Telstra-Australia)
    BVLP7 (Orange-UK)
    T_DCLP4 (Thailand)
    DDLPA
    T_DOLP4 (Telecom-New Zealand)
    DULP4
    DXLP7
    DXLP9
    DXLPA
    JHLP9 (Orange-Israel)
    T_JJLP8 (Pelephone-Israel)
    T_HZLP2 (Mirs-Israel)
    MUGLD3
    NELP2 (3-UK)
    NELP3 (3-UK)
    NELP4 (3-UK)
    UHLPG
    XXLPW
    XXLBR (O2-UK)
    XXLPS
    XXLPX
  11. ironass

    ironass Well-Known Member

    Extract from the, "Modems - Dummies Guide"...

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  12. blobq

    blobq Well-Known Member

  13. dynomot

    dynomot Well-Known Member

    I'm with Vodafone blobq, while the best modem for you is a personal choice and what works best for your phone might not work as well for mine, I find LPVE, works best for me.
  14. ironass

    ironass Well-Known Member

    Cheers dynomot! :thumbup:

    You've just proved my earlier point as I too am on Vodafone UK and thus far, overall, the BVLP7 modem from the Orange, "P", variant SGSII is best for me.
  15. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Ironass,
    Does this mean that it matters not whether i am running jelly bean or Ics? If so, what could be the reason for my losing mobile data connectivity when roaming (I assure you there is no problem with my carrier, because i used the same sim card in another phone while roaming and data worked perfectly). And please suggest a good modem for India (if you are aware of a few). Currently running LPX modem (came with Resurrection Remix 3.1.2). Have also tried KH3 with the same result.

    Thanks.
  16. ironass

    ironass Well-Known Member

    From post #1, Modems - Dummies Guide...

    I, too, have found that in a certain, "dead zone", that I visit, a great number of modems cannot get a signal. It has only by trial and error that I have found a few that can.

    You could start by installing whichever modem your particular service provider uses in their latest SGSII firmware and see if that helps.***

    ***EDIT

    Start by trying the DDLPA and DDLP8 modems from here, as they are India specific.
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  17. Nagrom

    Nagrom Well-Known Member

    Is there a way of extracting the modem that comes with NeatROM full? SinceI moved to Cyanogenmod 10, video playback on youtube has stopped when connecting through data.

    It worked fine whenI was running NR. I've installed a modem that someone recommendedI use with VodafoneUK, but still no good.

    Andy.
  18. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

  19. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Ok guys,
    I flashed Neatrom lite for a few hours and then returned to my Jelly bean rom :D Was missing it. But surprisingly, I found that in the Neat Rom scrolling, both in the app drawer and homescreens was noticeably smoother. I am stumped.. How can this be, when google claims to have implemented Project Butter in Jelly bean. One more thing. I dont receive timely twitter notifications in jelly bean. Somehow the app turns notifications off automatically. Could this be a rom specific issue? Thanks for helping.All those on Neat Rom here, please guide me. In other words, should i be on Neatrom??? :)
  20. sntaylor

    sntaylor Well-Known Member Contributor

    Jelly Bean On Our Phone Doesn't Yet Have Butter! Personally I'm Using Cm 10 Still, But Dual Booting With Neat!
  21. Nagrom

    Nagrom Well-Known Member

    Switched from neat to CM10. Very happy, and finding it very smooth.

    I am however considering going back to neat, or at least CM9, asI don't like the way JB handles the SD card. Also having weird problems with the sound on JB.
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  22. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Ironass, Hawker,
    your esteemed advice is still awaited. Please weigh in on this. And sntaylor, nagrom, are u guys running cm10 nightly ? where did u download it? Please provide links if possible. I am running Supernexus Rom which is Aosp based. Thank you.
  23. Hawker

    Hawker Well-Known Member

    I'm running Neat ROM XWLPY which is Sammy based.
  24. parag1dubey

    parag1dubey Well-Known Member

    Hawker,
    Are you a twitter user? If so, do you get notifications timely on Neatrom? which twitter app are u using? and thirdly, why is Neat rom so smooth (when compared to my jelly bean rom? )
  25. Hawker

    Hawker Well-Known Member

    No I don't use Twitter. I happen to have a life and friends I have actually met! :D

    Neat is certainly one of the best ROMs you can put on a GS2.
    All the JB ROMs are CM/AOKP based. Neat is Sammy based and comes directly off Samsung sources. AOKP is very good and highly configurable, but for me, they just dont cut the cheese as daily runners.

    Sale, the dev of Neat spends practically all his spare time working on his ROMs and all are finely tuned with optimisations, build.prop tweaks etc. so you really won't get much better than this.

    A Sammy phone should have a Sammy ROM in my opinion, and there is none better than Neat.
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